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Old 09-25-2016, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Hio I'm tired of arguing but that 4 valve head is going to show more gains with boost. Coyote is limited na due to piston to valve clearance ,parts,size but with boost it surely is the winner there.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Reading is definitely not your strong suit. I said I never read it and never will. I'll take my chances against the gangster ls3. Since your not gonna build one can we drop it? That's what we mean by fairy tale world.
Of course you're not gonna read it. You really do livevin fairy tail land. That's why you won't read it.

Now i have iffered ways to further improve ls3 power and asked you to do the same for the coyote.......reading comprehension myst not be your strong suit either.
Originally Posted by redbird555
All i was pointing out was that if you're going to optimize the coyote build you should do the same for the ls3, only fair. If that were to happen the ls3 would still probably be 100-150hp ahead at the end. I also said somewhere here the coyote build as bad as well. Dont get so upset the coyotah cant compete na
Troof
Originally Posted by corysmach1
My Coyote bolt ons made more power than your gangster ls3 through a 488 gear and I had some mods left. You wouldn't make 420 through that man gear. 100-150hp you guys are unreal..... absolutely hilarious lol. Everytime I get on here you guys give me a good laugh....ls1tech is my stress reliever.
Proof.....please post up a graph.

So now we all have to run the same gear? Btw....i don't consider a 4.88 a man gear. I do consider it a feminine tq gear.
Originally Posted by snake95
Same old song and dance

You don't know as much as you like to act like you know, but saying "here look what this guy said with words that I can't pronounce" is still part of your repertoire.

Entertainment for sure. Explain to the class how you still have the stock Heaton on the Mustang you pity-purchased while you roll out in the Camaro with #airbags and #hoodhinge.

Good stuff
Look at snake tryin to come in here and say something worth while.......oooopppss. he didn't say anything worth while again.

What does my notch have to do with this? You have the jellies my fox is nicer than yours?
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LOL... Snake kills me.

Hios terminator notch is nice, but it's no where near proper. Just more Hiopocrisy. NBD
Depends on what you call proper i suppose. It's pretty good tho. Is it all out .....no. but neither is the camaro.
Originally Posted by corysmach1
Snake is funny.

Hios Notch is pretty.
Snake offers no useful info as usual.

Yes muh notch is pretty
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Originally Posted by redbird555
Lol you're joking right? 4.88 from a 3.90 gear MIGHT be 8whp good god I thought you just paid people to work on your cars because you had no time...but now I see it's just because you know absolutely nothing about engines. P

What intake and fuel did you use to get there? Was it a bone stock coyote manifold from an 11-14 car? Na it was a cj, was it pump 91-93 nope it was e85 and after all that you barely made more power than me even though I ran a bone stock ls3 manifold and 91. I also made anothe 50ft of to over you...that's coyote is just pathetic
Yea....cman woulda not did well on stock mani and pump.
Originally Posted by corysmach1
Right here confirms you know absolutely nothing. I have e seen multiple i mean multiple cars lose 20rwhp from 3:42 to 4:10s. Now what's 3:90-4:88???? When I say multiple at least 20+ cars. I have 2 buddies that own dyno shops..... What did that gangster ls3 run again???? DB personally your pathetic.....ill take it easy on you from here on out I feel bad for ya brother.
I've never seen a ls loose 20hp on a gear change. That fairy tell land kicking in again.

My own gear changes i have not even noticed a power drop.
Originally Posted by redbird555
btw i'm still waiting for you to tell me what intake and fuel you were running to make youre numbers you claim are so good. truth is without the e85 and cj you probably would have been down near 420-430
Troof

They don't like mod4mod unless the mods are in their favor.

Red had another 20hp left in it pretty easily. No doubt a full sausage bolt on ls3 could make 470-480whp. Even more on ftw fuel like the 5br0s use and it woulda had gobs more tq.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Of course you're not gonna read it. You really do livevin fairy tail land. That's why you won't read it.

Now i have iffered ways to further improve ls3 power and asked you to do the same for the coyote.......reading comprehension myst not be your strong suit either.

Troof

Proof.....please post up a graph.

So now we all have to run the same gear? Btw....i don't consider a 4.88 a man gear. I do consider it a feminine tq gear.

Look at snake tryin to come in here and say something worth while.......oooopppss. he didn't say anything worth while again.

What does my notch have to do with this? You have the jellies my fox is nicer than yours?

Depends on what you call proper i suppose. It's pretty good tho. Is it all out .....no. but neither is the camaro.

Snake offers no useful info as usual.

Yes muh notch is pretty



Yea....cman woulda not did well on stock mani and pump.

I've never seen a ls loose 20hp on a gear change. That fairy tell land kicking in again.

My own gear changes i have not even noticed a power drop.


Troof

They don't like mod4mod unless the mods are in their favor.

Red had another 20hp left in it pretty easily. No doubt a full sausage bolt on ls3 could make 470-480whp. Even more on ftw fuel like the 5br0s use and it woulda had gobs more tq.
I had 20+rwhp left to gain also maybe 35-40 on fuel. I don't count E85 as fuel. They're is a few bolt on stock manifold 5.0s making 450 on pump. Not that I care because I like to talk about my own car. I have proven tq doesn't mean the world like you claim. So yes full sausage sealed motor that means no rockers Doug it's a battle.
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Originally Posted by redbird555
btw i'm still waiting for you to tell me what intake and fuel you were running to make youre numbers you claim are so good. truth is without the e85 and cj you probably would have been down near 420-430
410-420 is pretty common for bolt on br0's
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As long as you leave the cam map stock I'm ok with not using rockers. If you don't then rockersare in play. You need me post some more screen shots and links of ford guys using them in bolt on applications?


E85 is not pump gas. Red could likely have got to 470 on pump. Maybe a full sausage ftw fuel ls3 could break 500whp.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
As long as you leave the cam map stock I'm ok with not using rockers. If you don't then rockersare in play. You need me post some more screen shots and links of ford guys using them in bolt on applications?


E85 is not pump gas. Red could likely have got to 470 on pump. Maybe a full sausage ftw fuel ls3 could break 500whp.
Can I raise the limiter? Hmm I guess e85 is not available at the pump?
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Sure raise the limiter. Pretty common practice there.

Well technically all fuel is pumped somewhere along the line. But when someone says pump we all know what they are talking about. No use to distort that.
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Think Dman posted up a Br0 with some pretty typical e85 gains
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A vendor on M6G posted his E85 gains with intake and axleback. 10hp/14tq after several tweaks and pulls on the dyno. Went from 405 to 415.
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Time for new tuner
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Originally Posted by big hammer
410-420 is pretty common for bolt on br0's
I suspected to be around the 420 range with how it ran. Even though it only made 369, was let down.
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FBO/sausage LS3 making 500whp on FTW? Coyote can do that too.
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DB needs to post up tuner name so us Br0s can use him for these superb gains above the norm
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Dude you took a 10 second 427 go kart to 12.40s@120 yes your pathetic....let me guess that gangster ls3 was faster whatd it run again? My car makes 500? I trap 121? If so that's sad be sure I would absolutely embarrass you on the street from a dig. Come on up here man. You talk a lot for having done absolutely nothing in the car game. Like I said I feel bad for you.
You're the one who started this whole thing callin me out and getting pissy when all is said was the ls3 had a lot more to gain just like the coyote did. You obviously have something to prove I couldn't care less. Lol and you saw the vid so the 120mph is laughable at best since ou know it was 3.xx faster as well as the et. btw didnt you go 121 last time?
I honestly don't know why you're so mad all the time? Maybe it's because after all those mods you barely hung with a stock c6z? Maybe it's the fact that after all of this you still haven't answered my original question about your dyno. it's like you can't or don't want to answer a question so you switch topics, get all pissy and start name calling. It's sort of like watching a 5yo throw a tantrum when they get confused playing games with difficult looking shapes and colors.
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Nice to see everyone getting along
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Originally Posted by ZNix
FBO/sausage LS3 making 500whp on FTW? Coyote can do that too.
Well.....as many coyites as there are on ftw i would think one of them has did that if what you say is true. But they haven't.
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
I think for its CI it does pretty good, but better?
I know there is alot more to it, but my car on 6-7psi made 550 whp and 550 torque SAE through a unlocked 3600 stall. It's essential a ls3 with a 78mm turbo that falls on its face at 6k.
I wonder what a br0 would do with the same amount of air?
And even compare it to a 4.8 with the same air as well at only 293 ci, some guys get pretty good power.
My buddy made 631 sae @ 9psi on his 2016 GT catback only with a Procharger on 93octane. Turbo would have definitely been higher
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Originally Posted by big hammer
410-420 is pretty common for bolt on br0's
For a manual tranny? FBO? Nah.. nowhere near. I made 402 sae through an Auto with nothing more than a catback and flex fuel tune on e85. Most likely 420 on a stock car. FBO br0s average 440-460ish range on 93.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
As long as you leave the cam map stock I'm ok with not using rockers. If you don't then rockersare in play. You need me post some more screen shots and links of ford guys using them in bolt on applications?


E85 is not pump gas. Red could likely have got to 470 on pump. Maybe a full sausage ftw fuel ls3 could break 500whp.
Why would he use "pump" gas when Hiocrew is well known to mix race fuel now on their cars? Cats out of the bag mang. Your secret and Hiopocrisy is out.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well.....as many coyites as there are on ftw i would think one of them has did that if what you say is true. But they haven't.
It can easily be done imo. Hell, three years ago somebody got very close. Cory knows him. It should be more than doable these days with any kind of thought in their setup. I haven't seen any LS3s do it yet, tho.


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