2016 Corvette Stingray vs Coyote Mustangs
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09-30-2016, 05:11 PM
#167
Actually they don't. E85 is the best mod. They gain the most with that. Long tube headers dont gain much over the already efficient OEM shorties. Cat deletes gain 4-8rwhp.
Want proof? Take a look at the difference in times between the C7 stock list and bolt ons list. Same LT1 motor.
Want proof? Take a look at the difference in times between the C7 stock list and bolt ons list. Same LT1 motor.
Headers are getting 15-20 rwhp. Still waiting to see 2 inch primary test soon they claiming more. Msd picks up 15-20. The new roto fab is looking like it could be good for 5-10.
Pump tunes kinda weak 10-12 hp tops.
But all in all with just e85 alone they are putting down in the neighborhood of FBO s550 numbers. Just had an auto put down 44x/45x e85, cat delete CAI. With headers and msd it will be a 470-480 rwhp car through an auto. With a just as much torque.
To me and most others it's obvious which car will have the edge but yes certain mods the 5.0 respond better. In the end it's still not enough.
09-30-2016, 06:25 PM
#168
Somewhat agree.
Headers are getting 15-20 rwhp. Still waiting to see 2 inch primary test soon they claiming more. Msd picks up 15-20. The new roto fab is looking like it could be good for 5-10.
Pump tunes kinda weak 10-12 hp tops.
But all in all with just e85 alone they are putting down in the neighborhood of FBO s550 numbers. Just had an auto put down 44x/45x e85, cat delete CAI. With headers and msd it will be a 470-480 rwhp car through an auto. With a just as much torque.
To me and most others it's obvious which car will have the edge but yes certain mods the 5.0 respond better. In the end it's still not enough.
Headers are getting 15-20 rwhp. Still waiting to see 2 inch primary test soon they claiming more. Msd picks up 15-20. The new roto fab is looking like it could be good for 5-10.
Pump tunes kinda weak 10-12 hp tops.
But all in all with just e85 alone they are putting down in the neighborhood of FBO s550 numbers. Just had an auto put down 44x/45x e85, cat delete CAI. With headers and msd it will be a 470-480 rwhp car through an auto. With a just as much torque.
To me and most others it's obvious which car will have the edge but yes certain mods the 5.0 respond better. In the end it's still not enough.
09-30-2016, 08:18 PM
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I don't look for furd to do anything. They wouldn't want to out perform the gt350 in a straight line with a cheaper package. And they would have to out perform it to keep up with the 6gen. The new 10speed auto will probably help out the stang a little when it gets put in tho.
10-01-2016, 11:24 AM
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I don't look for furd to do anything. They wouldn't want to out perform the gt350 in a straight line with a cheaper package. And they would have to out perform it to keep up with the 6gen. The new 10speed auto will probably help out the stang a little when it gets put in tho.
10-01-2016, 07:20 PM
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10-01-2016, 08:07 PM
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More power is coming for sure, along with the 10speed auto. Just unsure on specifics. Ford isn't worried about 1/4 mile performance when it comes to the GT350. I have heard rumors of 475ish for the GT, 500ish for the Mach1. 2018 GT500 rumored to be 750+ with the 10speed auto also.
I could see them picking up a little power. But they didn't leave much on the table for other ways of making the gt accelerate better. Even the gearing in the gt's is spot on.
10-02-2016, 09:02 AM
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Given the new 5.2 non flat crank is good for 570 with mild stuff, I'm sure Ford could upgrade. They probably just won't. They are currently killing the pony car sales scene. Some months selling more than the challenger and Camaro combined
10-02-2016, 12:50 PM
#179
Painting e85 gains with a broad brush. That's not how it works.
If true e85 is in the tank and the tuner is on point its worth 15 all day and even more sometimes.
E85 can be as low as 51%. Only way its gonna be 7rwp is if its low % and a weak tune. Also in some areas e85 is down do 70% or less across the board in colder months.
Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
If true e85 is in the tank and the tuner is on point its worth 15 all day and even more sometimes.
E85 can be as low as 51%. Only way its gonna be 7rwp is if its low % and a weak tune. Also in some areas e85 is down do 70% or less across the board in colder months.
Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
I don't recall seeing many post from you before but you speak way too much simple truth to be in here. Give it up man, these guys can't be talked to in such a manner. I will say though if we are comparing apples to apples, the Corvette and the Mustang aren't on the same comp. In fact if you want to figure the main purpose, cost, and simplicity the vette has no comparable car. That is the main reason it has been such a mainstay for an eternity.
10-02-2016, 01:47 PM
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Why bring up sales here?