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Your logic is flawed because you are only thinking in straight line with the GT350. A GT that is quicker in the 1/4 mile is no issue because the GT350 will kill it on a road course, which is the whole concept of the GT350 in the first place. We all know gearing is the issue with the GT350s in a straight line. We have already seen what one can do to a 6gen from a roll.
It don't really seem to do much to a 6gen from a roll. You have said you think a m6 6gen is stronger from a roll......likely because you ran a m6 6gen so you want to believe this. Sofar we have only seen the a8 vs the gt350 on digs and rolls. The roll was damn close......the dig not at all. So if a m6 6gen is stronger on the roll than the a8 like YOU say.......then a gt350 and a m6 6gen woukd likely be a dead heat.
It don't really seem to do much to a 6gen from a roll. You have said you think a m6 6gen is stronger from a roll......likely because you ran a m6 6gen so you want to believe this. Sofar we have only seen the a8 vs the gt350 on digs and rolls. The roll was damn close......the dig not at all. So if a m6 6gen is stronger on the roll than the a8 like YOU say.......then a gt350 and a m6 6gen woukd likely be a dead heat.
Poppa has only said M6 6G is better on a roll due to their advantages past 100mph in comparison to the A8
You see blk.
So even marc agrees it would be a drivers race with a m6 sexgen vs a gt350.
Cause i mean lets face it.......if you guys clain the m6 is faster than the a8 after 100 the gt350 from the vids was getting all it wanted from a a8 car in the roll.
And then we have this.
As you can see if anything the m6 sexgen seems to give the gt350 all it wants. Most of us don't race till 170. So anything below that is likely a dead heat.
they have trapped much higher. he is strict on not posting times unless the slips are posted in the thread just as he wants. you can find them in the thread just not on the list. and I believe car and driver trapped 118 mph with their manual in their long term follow up. They said it got stronger with mileage. ive also seen other higher traps elsewhere on the net not on c6.
but yes on average the a8 traps higher. it is the quicker car to 100-120. even GM rated the a8 with a higher trap.
This is true. I'm curious to see what they will do. I like the back and forths. 2012 ZL1 was so hyped up with 580hp and then the 662hp Shelby GT500 was introduced that next year That was funny
That was fun to see ZL1 fans crying that year.
Originally Posted by redbird555
Not really no, if ford is charging 20k plus more for a 350 the gt shouldn't equal it in any aspect. Like it or not making the gt faster or even the same as the 350 would severely hurt Shelby sales. They may put the Mach 1 between the 2 and that would make sense. But adding 50hp to the gt.and pricing it at 34k would castrate Shelby sales. Even though it's a different platform gm rates the ls motors in corvettes the highest for that exact reason.
From a roll the 350 does beat and SS but it should...it's 15k more and that would be a helluva lot to pay for just a suspension package. The gt might get a modest bump but ford isn't going to put it into a position to hurst sales of a car it just spent millions developing
If the GT350 were to continue, there is no reason to believe they could not make a small bump in power to 540-550.. place the Mach 1 at 500ish, and GT at 475range.
Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Ford needs to shed about 150lbs off the mustang along with minor changes. Dodge needs to shed about 300lbs and keep the 6.4 with only a 15hp increase.
Another couple hundred pounds would definitely help things.
Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It don't really seem to do much to a 6gen from a roll. You have said you think a m6 6gen is stronger from a roll......likely because you ran a m6 6gen so you want to believe this. Sofar we have only seen the a8 vs the gt350 on digs and rolls. The roll was damn close......the dig not at all. So if a m6 6gen is stronger on the roll than the a8 like YOU say.......then a gt350 and a m6 6gen woukd likely be a dead heat.
you hush..... the adults are talking.
Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
nope that's not all he said.
an a8 from a low roll would be out in front. its obvious to anyone. and to him. but he will NEVER admit that.
Maybe I will be able to find an A8 6gen locally sometime to test "your" theory
This is true. I'm curious to see what they will do. I like the back and forths. 2012 ZL1 was so hyped up with 580hp and then the 662hp Shelby GT500 was introduced that next year That was funny
If the GT350 were to continue, there is no reason to believe they could not make a small bump in power to 540-550.. place the Mach 1 at 500ish, and GT at 475range.
Another couple hundred pounds would definitely help things.
you hush..... the adults are talking.
Maybe I will be able to find an A8 6gen locally sometime to test "your" theory
your car is faster now. so not really the same. but yeah that would be cool.
in a long roll I think the 6 would prevail. and only with a very good driver. but its not really a theory to think the a8 would be stronger in a low roll up to 100-120. just common sense really. too many things make it obvious imo.
your car is faster now. so not really the same. but yeah that would be cool.
in a long roll I think the 6 would prevail. and only with a very good driver. but its not really a theory to think the a8 would be stronger in a low roll up to 100-120. just common sense really. too many things make it obvious imo.
Its possible. Anything is possible on the street. You never know. IMO the 6gen I ran, ran stronger than the average we are seeing out of them. If you look at the current fast lists, his car at our local 1/8th mile in 1500ft DA ran 8.09@90.7mph. That puts him right in the top 3-5 cars on the 1/4 mile fast list.. his trap in 1500da puts him in the top 3 range. So his car ran strong.
Its possible. Anything is possible on the street. You never know. IMO the 6gen I ran, ran stronger than the average we are seeing out of them. If you look at the current fast lists, his car at our local 1/8th mile in 1500ft DA ran 8.09@90.7mph. That puts him right in the top 3-5 cars on the 1/4 mile fast list.. his trap in 1500da puts him in the top 3 range. So his car ran strong.
That would barely make the list for a8. 8.09 would be 18th. That would be top 5 on the m6 list yes. 7.98 best that's on the list. A couple quicker than 8.09 not posted as well.
Top 8 for a8 bone stock stock tires is 7.6-7.8 @ 91-93. Not all of them negative da either. In fact #2 is +200 da first glance. 7.78@93.4
Looks like the m6 is averaging 1-2 mph less in the 1/8 as well.
That would barely make the list for a8. 8.09 would be 18th. That would be top 5 on the m6 list yes. 7.98 best that's on the list. A couple quicker than 8.09 not posted as well.
Top 8 for a8 bone stock stock tires is 7.6-7.8 @ 91-93. Not all of them negative da either. In fact #2 is +200 da first glance. 7.78@93.4
Looks like the m6 is averaging 1-2 mph less in the 1/8 as well.
Originally Posted by HioSSilver
No question about them having poppa covered. Stock 6gen won 3 out of 5 vs poppa as it is.
And my car trapped more than most of the A8 or M6 cars... so, you seem to forget that in a roll race, trap speed is a big factor. No sense in debating this with yall. I know what would have happened... yall can think what you like. You are getting as bad as Hio.
And my car trapped more than most of the A8 or M6 cars... so, you seem to forget that in a roll race, trap speed is a big factor. No sense in debating this with yall. I know what would have happened... yall can think what you like. You are getting as bad as Hio.
Huh?
Ive been talking about trap in regards to a8 vs m6 this whole time. You ignored it until now. Wow br0
On stock wheels tires you have not been as fast as stock a8s stock tires. drag pack you have not been as fast as stock w/ drag pack a8. Of which only 1 has run in negative da. Rest have been ~3000. Would be close. But you have more mods now...
Had another good m6 time posted today. 12.25@115. 1660 DA. 1/8 7.97@91
10-05-2016, 01:52 PM
That was funny
