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Old 07-30-2017, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.7stroker
Has this discussion moved from Ford cars needing forced induction to keep up with N/A Chevy cars to Ford trucks needing forced induction to keep up with N/A Chevy trucks?

Ford lost the car battle because 5.4 4v's were not plentiful on the road.
Ford lost the truck battle because they can't haul like Chevy trucks?
It's devolved into the same stipulation infested pissing match that it always winds up as. Basically GM guys think forced induction isn't fair, and ford guys say it's not fair to compare NA due to the cubes.

Run what you've got, there are no rules.
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Originally Posted by JC316
It's devolved into the same stipulation infested pissing match that it always winds up as. Basically GM guys think forced induction isn't fair, and ford guys say it's not fair to compare NA due to the cubes.

Run what you've got, there are no rules.
A GM guy can always use force induction on his own ****, but then Ford cries no fair because of having more cubes AND forced induction.
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So basically there is no ending to the furd guys tears.
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Originally Posted by islander033
No proofs, scarred to race truck in 2017 and stips?

Com mon man. I'm actually pulling for you to beet Cody truck....
I know what it runs. We don't know what he runs.

Originally Posted by automach1
Mach never got sprayed. I was banned because the moderator had a 6.0 GTO. He just could not stand the fact he would lose to a mild bolton mach.

Yea wit no slips.

I will provide a slip and proof of my pass.
He wouldn't have lost.

Originally Posted by JC316
Early 5.3L silverado extended cab runs 16.2@84, 5.4L 2V F150 extended cab runs 16.3@84.

They're a very good run for each other stock.
Do you really think the addition of a extended cab would pull .5 and 3 mph out of a equally confiigured truck?

I don't. ....and i already said what a stock 5.3 4x4 ran with a good driver. The 5.4 stands no chance with both in goid operating condition and driven to their fullest. Just the way it is.

Originally Posted by 5.7stroker
Has this discussion moved from Ford cars needing forced induction to keep up with N/A Chevy cars to Ford trucks needing forced induction to keep up with N/A Chevy trucks?

Ford lost the car battle because 5.4 4v's were not plentiful on the road.
Ford lost the truck battle because they can't haul like Chevy trucks?
Pretty much.
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5.4 has all them massive CI but can't keep up to a little 5.3
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Do you really think the addition of a extended cab would pull .5 and 3 mph out of a equally confiigured truck?

I don't. ....and i already said what a stock 5.3 4x4 ran with a good driver. The 5.4 stands no chance with both in goid operating condition and driven to their fullest. Just the way it is.
No, I think you're a compulsive liar when it comes to all things GM. Magazine testing, my own personal experience, and the experience of others vs the opinion of an extremely biased forum user.
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Even local ford guys mock the gutless 5.4
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Even local ford guys mock the gutless 5.4
If that's the case, doesn't say much about the 5.3L.



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The 5.3 is the gutless high winder. Going to have to change your argument.
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I beat an FBO 5.4 3v with my bone stock 5.3 lmao
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3v is weak af. 2v ftw.
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Buddy had a 1997 3/4 ton ext cab 4x4 with a 4.6... it was just brutal
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It brutalized you? Sorry you had to go through that
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Originally Posted by JC316
No, I think you're a compulsive liar when it comes to all things GM. Magazine testing, my own personal experience, and the experience of others vs the opinion of an extremely biased forum user.
You have no ******* experience. You're a goddamn failure. That's why you try and get attention with this raging faggit youtube **** you do.

Hasn't your dumbass noticed i back up everything i say.

Originally Posted by big hammer
Even local ford guys mock the gutless 5.4
My neighbor had a 5.4 in a f250. Blown out plugs and gutless. He told me he was lucky to get to 35 mph to the end of this guardrail pulling out of my road with it. I can be running 50 in that same distance pulling a car.

You realize how easy it is to find 5.3s thrashing 5.4s? Hell there are even more 5.3 mustangs than there is 5.4 mustangs.......wtf does that tell you dumbass

Originally Posted by automach1
The 5.3 is the gutless high winder. Going to have to change your argument.
Hhhmmmmm.....usually your trying to brag on how much higher rpm you think the modular can turn. Now all of a sudden it's a bad thing.....lol
Originally Posted by big hammer
I beat an FBO 5.4 3v with my bone stock 5.3 lmao
I can see that

Originally Posted by automach1
3v is weak af. 2v ftw.
Lol......you gonna call him out on that lie dumbass jc453


All you have to do is go run your truck now
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
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All you have to do is go run your truck now
You need a slip too. Go run your truck...
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Originally Posted by islander033
You need a slip too. Go run your truck...
Are you actually asking him to step foot on a track? How dare you
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Yea....never been on one dipshit
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You have no ******* experience. You're a goddamn failure. That's why you try and get attention with this raging faggit youtube **** you do.

Hasn't your dumbass noticed i back up everything i say.



My neighbor had a 5.4 in a f250. Blown out plugs and gutless. He told me he was lucky to get to 35 mph to the end of this guardrail pulling out of my road with it. I can be running 50 in that same distance pulling a car.



You realize how easy it is to find 5.3s thrashing 5.4s? Hell there are even more 5.3 mustangs than there is 5.4 mustangs.......wtf does that tell you dumbass


Lol......you gonna call him out on that lie dumbass jc453

What do you do for a living there Hio? I ask, because I am fairly certain that I have far more hood time than you do. Not doing bolt on engine swaps and holesawing my car, but actual hood time with every brand there is.

You haven't backed up a ******* thing, you just continue to flap your gums and expect people to take your word as law.

You can find vids of the 5.3L thrashing the 5.4L for sure, but it takes mods on the 5.3L to do it.

Why do we find more 5.3L's than 5.4L's in mustangs? No intake options for the 5.4L, you have to get adapters, which choke the motor. Cost, $400 for the 5.3L vs $1500 for a 5.4L.

You wanna talk 3V? Okie dokie.



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I seen a 5.4 win a race once. Against a 4.6
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Originally Posted by JC316
What do you do for a living there Hio? I ask, because I am fairly certain that I have far more hood time than you do. Not doing bolt on engine swaps and holesawing my car, but actual hood time with every brand there is.

You haven't backed up a ******* thing, you just continue to flap your gums and expect people to take your word as law.

You can find vids of the 5.3L thrashing the 5.4L for sure, but it takes mods on the 5.3L to do it.

Why do we find more 5.3L's than 5.4L's in mustangs? No intake options for the 5.4L, you have to get adapters, which choke the motor. Cost, $400 for the 5.3L vs $1500 for a 5.4L.

You wanna talk 3V? Okie dokie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5uHp782sPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJAfuaGiUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWmCoxfmu3U
I work on cars for a living dumbass. At my own shop dumbass......I've worked on cars for a living all but about 3 months since i started working snowflake. The last 10 ******* yrs in my own shop. Now stfu bitch.

Here's what i have proved. It's really not that hard to get a bokt on ls6 to go 10s and was the first to run over 130 traps wuth one. I've also helped prove a ls1 can run 11s w/o headers on stock power tuning. I have also helped prove a bolt on 5gen can run 11.5@120 at full ******* weight.

Here's what you have proved. Your motor swapped 4v never left the ******* 14s.


The 5 3 don't need mods. Myself and hammer have proved that with actual races and not yt vids. Others have here also.

Now you making excuses for the 5.3 vs 5.4 swaps in mustangs. It likely has not a ******* thing to do with a similar swap with a 5.4 would have it eating itself at about 450whp with out being built.
Originally Posted by big hammer
I seen a 5.4 win a race once. Against a 4.6
Lol....about the only way it can win. It might beat a magnum 318/360 to.


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