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Old 05-05-2018, 10:00 PM
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i don't consider my HCI fbody fast by any means. yet without traction control im semi afraid to really accelerate through corners without being afraid of it breaking loose and me smashing a wall. (id like to get some road course practice to help learn the limits of the car soon). but what i don't understand is how i see these people and there twin turbo this, or 250 shot that roll racing. id be shitting my pants, 1)thats twice as much as im used to, but 2) id be afraid of them breaking lose when i slam 3-4 and getting squirly at 120+. are you guys just used to it and got good at controlling it? like how can you possibly have traction weather its street tires or running not really heated radials?
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You just gotta know your car man. I got used to it pretty fast. And ease into it. The throttle is not an on and off switch.
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You have to learn the limits of what you and your car are capable of and it doesn't happen overnight. It takes time behind the wheel, As you get more seat time you'll find you learn how to control the car and how to push it to the edge. Not saying you won't make mistakes but if you take your time you'll gain confidence in what you are doing and learn what to expect from the car. The biggest mistake people mistake is trying to go to fast to soon. Not everyone is cutout for it. One of the best ways to learn is autocross, It's just you and some cones and usually a large parking lot with little to hit, Lots of tight turns and not a lot of speed.
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Most of the fastest drag radial cars in the country have scrape marks and dents from pushing the limits of there cars but if u don't find the limit u don't know what u can handle. From experience tho it's much better to start small and build the car up a little at a time as you get more used to fast cars. It's more expensive that way then building it once but if you have ever seen a mustang take out s crowd of ppl you realize why it's not a great idea to be behind the wheel of a car you don't know how to control. Most ppl have never been 120mph and a that's a far jump to 160 on a hwy with 800hp so no need to rush
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very broad question, if you have decent tires, and a properly setup suspension on an 800rwhp zr1, what are the chances of you breaking lose if you're full throttle halfway through 4th? like im just trying to figure out the point of high hp street cars if 1-3 and some of 4th is useless......unless thats the fun part....constantly trying to find traction and being super happy when you do.......i understand completely for like half mile or 1 mile events
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Adjustable suspension the right tires the right conditions on the street etc. It's fun to know you car well enough to make a couple shock adjustments know how much heat to put in the tires for a dig run etc. On a long stretch of highway my s10 will spin the tires at any speed under a hundred but I can also adjust the boost controller and hook at 40 mph leaving other high hp cars looking like there chained to a tree. It's mostly just for highway roll but it's just as fun at the track but again it comes back to how well u know your car better than whoever your racing also the random encounters on the highway with vettes and other fast cars are the most fun to me.
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Not long ago I rode in a 800 rwhp 2015 Mustang GT, and it actually felt less violent and had better traction than my Camaro at around 600 rwhp. He even had big heavy 20" wheels with thin sidewall drag radials, and it still hooked pretty damn good lol.

Like mentioned above it has so much to do with the total setup...trans, gearing, tire, suspension, etc.
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my 730 rwhp nitrous c6z will dead hook from a 60 roll in 2nd gear on a 335/35/17 hoosier dr2
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
i don't consider my HCI fbody fast by any means. yet without traction control im semi afraid to really accelerate through corners without being afraid of it breaking loose and me smashing a wall. (id like to get some road course practice to help learn the limits of the car soon). but what i don't understand is how i see these people and there twin turbo this, or 250 shot that roll racing. id be shitting my pants, 1)thats twice as much as im used to, but 2) id be afraid of them breaking lose when i slam 3-4 and getting squirly at 120+. are you guys just used to it and got good at controlling it? like how can you possibly have traction weather its street tires or running not really heated radials?
if you speaking on corners mostly then there are other things that control that feel of wanting to snap out on you. Pitch of the car being one, to much lca angle can do that also, adjustable shocks can also help control that.

as far as straight line traction goes thats mostly about the tire.
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You just gotta know your car man. I got used to it pretty fast. And ease into it. The throttle is not an on and off switch.
Your slow car doesn't count
You probably don't have half of 800hp.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Not long ago I rode in a 800 rwhp 2015 Mustang GT, and it actually felt less violent and had better traction than my Camaro at around 600 rwhp. He even had big heavy 20" wheels with thin sidewall drag radials, and it still hooked pretty damn good lol.

Like mentioned above it has so much to do with the total setup...trans, gearing, tire, suspension, etc.
do you think it could be because the IRS will hook better than a solid axle once you are already moving?
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
do you think it could be because the IRS will hook better than a solid axle once you are already moving?
Possibly but I think it has more to due with the combination of things. For instance it was an auto with the stock converter and gearing. That alone will shock the tires way less less than a t56 with 4.10's like mine. Then there's the massive torque spike with nitrous compared to a blower. Not to mention a much more modern platform than mine. Know what I mean?
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My vette at 900+whp is easier to control than my trans am at 650+whp. Don’t get my wrong neither car is “easy” to handle but it’s all about knowing your car. I’m used to driving cars with power but never underestimate anything.
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Possibly but I think it has more to due with the combination of things. For instance it was an auto with the stock converter and gearing. That alone will shock the tires way less less than a t56 with 4.10's like mine. Then there's the massive torque spike with nitrous compared to a blower. Not to mention a much more modern platform than mine. Know what I mean?
i think ur right with the auto and gearing. i mean when u shift with a stick u are momentarily removing the power from the drivetrain when u press in the clutch then throwing the clutch out and going from 0 tq on the wheels to 500+tq in less than half a second or so. with an auto i would imagine if ur full throttle and go through 1-4 there is never a time when there is no power on the wheels even when it shifts. so no shock on the tires to go from 0-500 and still grip
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You just wheel it.
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Originally Posted by LLLosingit
Your slow car doesn't count
You probably don't have half of 800hp.
Wrong, bitchtits. Way faster than anything you got.
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Originally Posted by Floorman279
do you think it could be because the IRS will hook better than a solid axle once you are already moving?
lolz.....crazy how a few years ago i was castrated in here for saying irs cars hook better and now it's becoming the norm.

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You just wheel it.
How'd just wheeling it work for your h/c c6z?
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Doug just owned Scotty.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
lolz.....crazy how a few years ago i was castrated in here for saying irs cars hook better and now it's becoming the norm.


How'd just wheeling it work for your h/c c6z?
solid axle is still confirmed to top launch harder than IRS. starting to think now tho that once moving IRS puts power down better
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Good kill OPee!
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