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Old 09-07-2024, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
100% proven to not be true based off 2300/2650 TVS results.
What i said is 100% true. Now you can **** it up buy not getting all the efficiencies comparable.....and most do.

All engines run at about 14.7psi give or take ambient atmosphere pressure. So even na has pressure. If you double that pressure efficiently it doubles power within reason. So the engine that makes more power na WILL make even more power boosted. The gap the ls puts on modular stuff never gets closer....and it's not even close na.


Originally Posted by LSux
”Breaking stuff” isn’t the definition of power

Using Libtard tactics of redefining words to change a narrative only makes you look like a fool.

Now that I think about it that’s actually giving you too much credit, you really are just a bumpkin tossing around words you don’t even comprehend.

Shift points require torque and RPM, which you clearly do not realize is literally calculating power to determine shift points.

Stay stupid Doug, and you truly are stupid.
As in you’re a really, exceedingly, fundamentally unintelligent person.
It's all tq. You don't need hp to calculate shift points. You act like tq is stationary.....it's not in a running engine. It's a dynamic force then. I know it's hard for a moron like you to understand.




Originally Posted by LSux
5.4 has made more power n/a
5.4 has made more power boosted
5.4 has gone quicker in X275
5.4 has gone quicker in Extreme 28
5.4 has gone quicker in Yellowbullet nationals
5.4 has been quicker and faster in the 1/8
5.4 has been quicker and faster in the 1/4
5.4 has been faster in the standing mile
5.4 has been faster in a door slammer
5.4 has been faster with factory castings
5.4 has been faster with a cooling system
5.4 came from the factory with more power with a warranty
5.4 > LS6
Absolutely none of that is true. Quite the reverse just like cnn


But hey you can always tells us how yours run🤣🤣🤣🤣


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But wait there is more. HC C6Z vs Bolton GT500


https://youtu.be/NShJNq-ok8o?si=pHiSEMStOtG-LZ2T
na vs boosted....not really a good argument on your part.....unless you can't keep up na. Then your poopy turd 5.4 needs a power adder.

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I don't know about that

Those 4 valve Fords love boost. Limiting factor during LS1 era was weak bottom end.
There are 9 second DD Coyote 3 and 4 autos with exhaust half shafts 355s tires tune and fuel along with boost. 392 and LT1 is not doing that despite LT1 and Coyote being about equal na
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Every engine loves boost. It works just as I said. Na is 14.7 ~ psi. If you double that pressure it doubles power if you have a good set up.....it works that way for every engine. Even a 5hp Briggs.

You can **** it real good tho.....and most seem to do so.

Lt1 could certainly run 9s with boost.....they do it na. Hell lowely l99 5gens ran mid 10s with just a blower, poor gearing and heavy af. No doubt they could run 9s too. Ls3s could.....I mean there's ls truck motors doing it that was never designed for performance.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
What i said is 100% true. Now you can **** it up buy not getting all the efficiencies comparable.....and most do.

All engines run at about 14.7psi give or take ambient atmosphere pressure. So even na has pressure. If you double that pressure efficiently it doubles power within reason. So the engine that makes more power na WILL make even more power boosted. The gap the ls puts on modular stuff never gets closer....and it's not even close na.



It's all tq. You don't need hp to calculate shift points. You act like tq is stationary.....it's not in a running engine. It's a dynamic force then. I know it's hard for a moron like you to understand.






Absolutely none of that is true. Quite the reverse just like cnn


But hey you can always tells us how yours run🤣🤣🤣🤣



na vs boosted....not really a good argument on your part.....unless you can't keep up na. Then your poopy turd 5.4 needs a power adder.
Doug go ask a ZR1 page how to make 1200+ SAE with the 2650. They will tell you it will need aftermarket heads, a lot of CI/compression etc… Or just spray it..

I did it with a 330CI truck motor and stock heads lmao 🤣

Doug no worries I will take the blower off and It will be the same out come.

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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
Doug go ask a ZR1 page how to make 1200+ SAE with the 2650. They will tell you it will need aftermarket heads, a lot of CI/compression etc… Or just spray it..

I did it with a 330CI truck motor and stock heads lmao 🤣

Doug no worries I will take the blower off and It will be the same out come.
take them off and get it done then. If you beat my numbers then free intake. If you don't then you leaned a lesson. It works out either way.

But you won't....and we both know it.

If you made 1200 with a slb 5.4 which might make 350whp max fbo without the blower. Then splain why a ls9 or lt5 couldn't......because either of those will make 450+ fbo without the blower. If it starts higher it will end higher. Just how it is.

That is assuming it's not fuel or airflow restricted in the intake or exhaust.

But like that 494fakewhp yours is likely fake to.

Remember.....lots of people think including yalls dumbasses that it takes aftermarket heads to make the power my car did. Simply put.....this dumbass hillbilly proved all yall bitches wrong🤣🤣🤣🤣

Suck it mfr's!
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Point to the spot the ls tq curve hurt you. That fake 494hp would get gapped by that 451whp bolt on ls6.


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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Point to the spot the ls tq curve hurt you. That fake 494hp would get gapped by that 451whp bolt on ls6.

Racing TQ curves lmao 🤣. You definitely have a touch of downs.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
take them off and get it done then. If you beat my numbers then free intake. If you don't then you leaned a lesson. It works out either way.

But you won't....and we both know it.

If you made 1200 with a slb 5.4 which might make 350whp max fbo without the blower. Then splain why a ls9 or lt5 couldn't......because either of those will make 450+ fbo without the blower. If it starts higher it will end higher. Just how it is.

That is assuming it's not fuel or airflow restricted in the intake or exhaust.

But like that 494fakewhp yours is likely fake to.

Remember.....lots of people think including yalls dumbasses that it takes aftermarket heads to make the power my car did. Simply put.....this dumbass hillbilly proved all yall bitches wrong🤣🤣🤣🤣

Suck it mfr's!
Can’t wait for you to go back on your word for that free intake manifold

Not sure why ls9 is weaker. My guess is average head flow numbers since 4v FTW. Like I said find a stock CI ls9 with stock heads making 1200+ Sae on a Dynojet using a 2300/2650. (fair warning there probably isn’t one even though there are hundreds of ls9 combos trying to max out the 2650 potential)… Nobody said anything about “stock long block”.

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We both know your stock 4v heads won't keep up with a ls9 head.....**** they don't keep up with my 243s according to yalls results.

If you used that same dyno as that 494whp 4.sux then it's obvious why you're bragging on happy dyno numbers while you get gapped by them at the track.

Other than that na rules out all the fuckery of boost. The absolute only way your slb as you claim 5.4 to make more power than a ls9 is to run more boost, spray it or to run it on a fuel. It won't do it na and it won't do it boosted if all is comparable.

But hey....try it na. Might be a free intake in it for ya......there won't be because those turds can't do it if it's comparable.
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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
Racing TQ curves lmao 🤣. You definitely have a touch of downs.
everyone only races tq curves. Tq is the only force that comes out of a crankshaft. It's funny yall think otherwise.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
everyone only races tq curves. Tq is the only force that comes out of a crankshaft. It's funny yall think otherwise.
Average power, gearing, traction, & race weight determine race outcomes. Always has and always will.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
We both know your stock 4v heads won't keep up with a ls9 head.....**** they don't keep up with my 243s according to yalls results.

If you used that same dyno as that 494whp 4.sux then it's obvious why you're bragging on happy dyno numbers while you get gapped by them at the track.

Other than that na rules out all the fuckery of boost. The absolute only way your slb as you claim 5.4 to make more power than a ls9 is to run more boost, spray it or to run it on a fuel. It won't do it na and it won't do it boosted if all is comparable.

But hey....try it na. Might be a free intake in it for ya......there won't be because those turds can't do it if it's comparable.
Where are they at then Doug? Why can’t the ls9 make 1200+? I didn’t put a boost cap on it. I didn’t say they had to do it on **** fuel and I didn’t spray my 1215/1100 pull. They just can’t do it.

Ok so back to NA talk because you are getting crushed again…

So when I make more power you are going to cry fake numbers and it doesn’t sit like me. That’s all you are good at. So cry cry little hillbilly because LS isn’t better and never has been.



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You can't crush me dude....especially with lies.

Your numbers are fake. As fake as your boi bidum getting 81 million votes.

Good luck na....you gonna need it.

What fuel was you running? How much boost? Track times with that 1200 hp 1100tq? Start dancing boi
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You can't crush me dude....especially with lies.

Your numbers are fake. As fake as your boi bidum getting 81 million votes.

Good luck na....you gonna need it.

What fuel was you running? How much boost? Track times with that 1200 hp 1100tq? Start dancing boi
Just a drop in rod/piston 5.4 truck motor, 23x cams, stock heads with mild port, and a 2650 on top. 1215/1102 SAE No your LS6 can’t do that.





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I had an NA 4.6 4v what an absolutey slow garbage can. Really no faster than a iroc
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I had an NA 4.6 4v what an absolutey slow garbage can. Really no faster than a iroc
So if Doug makes less power than a 4.6 does that make his 347CI LS "SUPER SLOW GARBAGE"? LOL

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Point to the spot the ls tq curve hurt you. That fake 494hp would get gapped by that 451whp bolt on ls6.


REALITY....

The 4V shifting @ 8600 like it's supposed to will gap both combos


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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It's all tq. You don't need hp to calculate shift points. You act like tq is stationary.....it's not in a running engine. It's a dynamic force then. I know it's hard for a moron like you to understand.
It’s always funny listening someone who doesn’t know anything about physics try to fumble their way through an INCORRECT country bumpkin physics lessons.

Torque with a RATE is power.
Shift point calculators are using torque and RPM to calculate average power to determine optimal shift points.

Learn the difference between power (HP, kW, etc.) and toque (lb-ft, Nm, etc.) and quit looking like a total buffoon.

It’s pathetic watching you fumble your way through this when you consider yourself a “car gay”.

Originally Posted by LSux
5.4 has made more power n/a
5.4 has made more power boosted
5.4 has gone quicker in X275
5.4 has gone quicker in Extreme 28
5.4 has gone quicker in Yellowbullet nationals
5.4 has been quicker and faster in the 1/8
5.4 has been quicker and faster in the 1/4
5.4 has been faster in the standing mile
5.4 has been faster in a door slammer
5.4 has been faster with factory castings
5.4 has been faster with a cooling system
5.4 came from the factory with more power with a warranty
5.4 > LS6


Absolutely none of that is true. Quite the reverse just like cnn
It’s all true.
John Tymensky made 615+ SAE with a bigger, higher drag ring pack than your fully built LS6 has 20 years ago. More than any LS6 with severely outdated cam
and ring tech

At least 2 stock casting 5.4s have made ~3200 HP

Dom DiDonato has been faster with a 5.4 GT500 in X275 than any LS6 has

5.4 has been 6.3 @ 228 in Extreme 28, faster than any LS6

5.4 went 6.19 & 230 in a 25.2 steel body door slammer last year, faster than any LS6 — with stock castings and a full cooling system.

5.4 has been 301 mph in a standing mile @ nearly 4000 lb street car

N/A, 1/8, 1/4, mile, stock casting and cooling systems all covered.

5.4 > LS6

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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
So if Doug makes less power than a 4.6 does that make his 347CI LS "SUPER SLOW GARBAGE"? LOL
Yes, that’ll make him super slow 347ci garbage when he gets out powered and outrun by an n/a 4.6 “fErD”
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

***Many crayons were eaten in the making of this graph

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