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Old 09-09-2024 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
Just a drop in rod/piston 5.4 truck motor, 23x cams, stock heads with mild port, and a 2650 on top. 1215/1102 SAE No your LS6 can’t do that.

The ls6 would make more power.

You know you're really beating around the bush about this intake bet. It seems you already have a built h/c 5.4. The only thing you need is a intake. Remove the blower and put a na intake on that turd. It's really that simple......no real whining about cubes then. Nothing for you to cry about other than losing.

Lets do a side bet on top of the intake. $50 says it won't make what my bolt on ls6 made with just a na intake on pump gas.

If it does you get $50 now. If it makes what my 5.7 does you get the intake and the 50.

You can't even lose this bet other than buying your own intake.

Your 5.4urd build is very similar to my 5.7 build. No reason not to except that bet other than ssskkkeeerrreeeddd af

Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
So if Doug makes less power than a 4.6 does that make his 347CI LS "SUPER SLOW GARBAGE"? LOL
Well it's a 346

Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
REALITY....

The 4V shifting @ 8600 like it's supposed to will gap both combos

Why did you mod the graph? It's accurate, if anything i was generous to the 4.sux
That 4v isn't shifting at 8600 and doing ****. Yall coulda ran it out to that.....it woulda been smart to really.

We ran mine out to 8k by the last graph. It doesn't really fall off. So idk why you think it would.

At no point does that 4.sux make as much power. My **** idles with more tq than that turd🤣🤣🤣


Originally Posted by LSux
It’s always funny listening someone who doesn’t know anything about physics try to fumble their way through an INCORRECT country bumpkin physics lessons.

Torque with a RATE is power.
Shift point calculators are using torque and RPM to calculate average power to determine optimal shift points.

Learn the difference between power (HP, kW, etc.) and toque (lb-ft, Nm, etc.) and quit looking like a total buffoon.

It’s pathetic watching you fumble your way through this when you consider yourself a “car gay”.





It’s all true.
John Tymensky made 615+ SAE with a bigger, higher drag ring pack than your fully built LS6 has 20 years ago. More than any LS6 with severely outdated cam
and ring tech

At least 2 stock casting 5.4s have made ~3200 HP

Dom DiDonato has been faster with a 5.4 GT500 in X275 than any LS6 has

5.4 has been 6.3 @ 228 in Extreme 28, faster than any LS6

5.4 went 6.19 & 230 in a 25.2 steel body door slammer last year, faster than any LS6 — with stock castings and a full cooling system.

5.4 has been 301 mph in a standing mile @ nearly 4000 lb street car

N/A, 1/8, 1/4, mile, stock casting and cooling systems all covered.

5.4 > LS6
More lies....or you would go do it

That's right you only need tq to calculate shift points.....you're learning albeit very slowly

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Yes, that’ll make him super slow 347ci garbage when he gets out powered and outrun by an n/a 4.6 “fErD”
Do it then. I mean no other comparable moduler build on the planet has made more power.....none

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***Many crayons were eaten in the making of this graph
just a few
Old 09-09-2024 | 04:05 PM
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btw....that was the last time on the dyno. If anything I drew my tq falling off to early.

It will make less power getting fueled right they said🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Saaaayyy wwwhhhaaattt biatch
Old 09-09-2024 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The ls6 would make more power.

You know you're really beating around the bush about this intake bet. It seems you already have a built h/c 5.4. The only thing you need is a intake. Remove the blower and put a na intake on that turd. It's really that simple......no real whining about cubes then. Nothing for you to cry about other than losing.

Lets do a side bet on top of the intake. $50 says it won't make what my bolt on ls6 made with just a na intake on pump gas.

If it does you get $50 now. If it makes what my 5.7 does you get the intake and the 50.

You can't even lose this bet other than buying your own intake.

Your 5.4urd build is very similar to my 5.7 build. No reason not to except that bet other than ssskkkeeerrreeeddd af



Well it's a 346



Why did you mod the graph? It's accurate, if anything i was generous to the 4.sux
That 4v isn't shifting at 8600 and doing ****. Yall coulda ran it out to that.....it woulda been smart to really.

We ran mine out to 8k by the last graph. It doesn't really fall off. So idk why you think it would.

At no point does that 4.sux make as much power. My **** idles with more tq than that turd🤣🤣🤣




More lies....or you would go do it

That's right you only need tq to calculate shift points.....you're learning albeit very slowly



Do it then. I mean no other comparable moduler build on the planet has made more power.....none


just a few
I already told you I would not puppy kick you with a 5.4 combo. Yet there you go again trying to compare your NA combo to a combo that was put together to handle 1200whp from a PD blower.

Also no your LS6 could not make 1200+ whp with a 2650. For one a it would come apart trying and for two the ls9 could not do it therefore your 347 would fall wayyy short.

The blower and 5.4 stuff has been sold. As I have told you for 100 times now. It will be an NA 4.6 combo on pump gas.

So now you will owe $ for an intake manifold and another $50 on top of that... Got it.
Old 09-09-2024 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver


btw....that was the last time on the dyno. If anything I drew my tq falling off to early.

It will make less power getting fueled right they said🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Saaaayyy wwwhhhaaattt biatch

No your LS6 could not pull to 8500+ like a little 4v can reliable.



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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
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Why did you mod the graph? It's accurate, if anything i was generous to the 4.sux
That 4v isn't shifting at 8600 and doing ****. Yall coulda ran it out to that.....it woulda been smart to really.

We ran mine out to 8k by the last graph. It doesn't really fall off. So idk why you think it would.
Looking at the graphs his mods corrected your butthurt bs.

Clear data points:
He has the 4V making 305 wtq @ 4200
You have the 4V making 250 wtq @ 4200

he’s right, you’re wrong

He has your 347 making 390 wtq @ 7500 (it’s really only making ~378, so who’s being generous now?)
You have your 347 making 400 wtq @ 7500

he’s right, you’re wrong

You should have eaten fewer crayons, simple number transcription is really getting the better of ya.

“I was generous to the 4.6”
“drew my tq falling off too early”. 😂🤣💀
I guess this is the backwoods West Virginia version of generous🤡

That's right you only need tq to calculate shift points.....you're learning albeit very slowly
nope, you need torque at the corresponding rpm.
aka POWER

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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
No your LS6 could not pull to 8500+ like a little 4v can reliable.

WV bumpkins can’t comprehend average power.
Looks to me like the 4V will **** on the race built LS6 in average power.

300 wtq @ 8600 rpm which means it’s still making within 10 hp of peak @ 8500 rpm

Poor 347

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Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
I already told you I would not puppy kick you with a 5.4 combo. Yet there you go again trying to compare your NA combo to a combo that was put together to handle 1200whp from a PD blower.

Also no your LS6 could not make 1200+ whp with a 2650. For one a it would come apart trying and for two the ls9 could not do it therefore your 347 would fall wayyy short.

The blower and 5.4 stuff has been sold. As I have told you for 100 times now. It will be an NA 4.6 combo on pump gas.

So now you will owe $ for an intake manifold and another $50 on top of that... Got it.
Your 5.4 woulda got crushed by the bolt on ls6. We both know it.....**** the ls6 did crush that turd when you were bolt ons🤣🤣🤣

Why would mine come apart? It's been proven the ls can hold more power than the furd ****. I probably wouldn't use the piston/ rod I used for boost but sbe ls has made more than you.....so it would likely be fine.

You seen the bet don't twist it. It seems your 5.4 failed or you wouldn't have sold that crap.

Originally Posted by NA4VALVE
No your LS6 could not pull to 8500+ like a little 4v can reliable.

Actually ls stuff has been 11000 rpm. But alas it don't have to work that hard to beat that turd.

But hey if you noticed we ran it out to 8k rpm.

Originally Posted by LSux
Looking at the graphs his mods corrected your butthurt bs.

Clear data points:
He has the 4V making 305 wtq @ 4200
You have the 4V making 250 wtq @ 4200

he’s right, you’re wrong

He has your built motor making ~380 wtq @ 7500
You have your built motor making 400 wtq @ 7500

he’s right, you’re wrong

You should have eaten fewer crayons, simple number transcription is really owning.

numbers remain hard for bumpkins

I guess this is a West Virginia generous, robbing you blind and telling you it’s a great deal 🤡



nope, you need torque at the corresponding rpm.
aka POWER
I'm always right you're always wrong. That 4v is ******* turd that would get walked all over by the bolt on ls6

You know what proves it.....you 3 furd gai's . All yall do is mouf and this hillbilly showed you what's up.

That graph is ran out to 8k morons or right at it. 7500 is in the middle for you numbers challenged type. Sssooo yea still making 400wtq at 750.....sad you idiots can't read a graph. It never makes less power than that 4.sux maximum power🤣🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by LSux
WV bumpkins can’t comprehend average power.
Looks to me like the 4V will **** on the race built LS6 in average power.

300 wtq @ 8600 rpm which means it’s still making within 10 hp of peak @ 8500 rpm

Poor 347
lolz at that 4.sux. I posted the tq graphs....that is the average power.

It's cute your thinking 300wtq is something tho🤣🤣🤣

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm always right you're always wrong. That 4v is ******* turd that would get walked all over by the bolt on ls6
You actually haven’t been right on a single point here.
I wish you could put up a fight and make a point but it’s beyond you.

Looks like you need to correct your crayola graph errors then connect the dots with the rest of the 4V graph.

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I've been completely right.....that's why yall cryin so hard.

Btw....We've ran sbe ls3 to 8200. some has ran sbe ls stuff to 9000ish. And it wasn't making a pissy *** turd 300tq.

You moufy bitches should get started building and less moufing
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Let the record show lsuxbois hasn't posted one build of his own. But hey he knows what's up.....like what's up his butt
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I've been completely right.....that's why yall cryin so hard.

Btw....We've ran sbe ls3 to 8200. some has ran sbe ls stuff to 9000ish. And it wasn't making a pissy *** turd 300tq.

You moufy bitches should get started building and less moufing
You haven’t been right on the basic principles of physics, like the difference between torque and power.

“Torque is power” is objectively wrong and you’re still shifting back and forth between the principles out of convenience AND because you do not actually understand either one.

You haven’t been right about platform accomplishments

You haven’t been right when transcribing dynos with crayons

Always wrong Doug


What does your 347 make @ 8600 though?
Less than 300



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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Let the record show lsuxbois hasn't posted one build of his own. But hey he knows what's up.....like what's up his butt
I just know how to read numbers right and took physics in college.
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Tq is power is objectively right. Hp is only a calculation.

Idk what my 346 makes 8600. But if it was intended to turn 8600 it would make alot more than 300tq. This is just a pump gas build that is basically sbe other than the pistons. And it's got yall turnt

You're not very smart for someone who took physics.......are you sure you dont mean physicals. Like **** physicals. Because it's definitely not numbers......or you would know my 346 isn't a 347. It's actually a 346.
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All this bench racing turtle talk is fun.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Your 5.4 woulda got crushed by the bolt on ls6. We both know it.....**** the ls6 did crush that turd when you were bolt ons🤣🤣🤣

Why would mine come apart? It's been proven the ls can hold more power than the furd ****. I probably wouldn't use the piston/ rod I used for boost but sbe ls has made more than you.....so it would likely be fine.

You seen the bet don't twist it. It seems your 5.4 failed or you wouldn't have sold that crap.



Actually ls stuff has been 11000 rpm. But alas it don't have to work that hard to beat that turd.

But hey if you noticed we ran it out to 8k rpm.



I'm always right you're always wrong. That 4v is ******* turd that would get walked all over by the bolt on ls6

You know what proves it.....you 3 furd gai's . All yall do is mouf and this hillbilly showed you what's up.

That graph is ran out to 8k morons or right at it. 7500 is in the middle for you numbers challenged type. Sssooo yea still making 400wtq at 750.....sad you idiots can't read a graph. It never makes less power than that 4.sux maximum power🤣🤣🤣🤣


lolz at that 4.sux. I posted the tq graphs....that is the average power.

It's cute your thinking 300wtq is something tho🤣🤣🤣
5.4 Has made 615+ SAE NA. LS6 hasn’t.

5.4/5.8 Has made 1200+ SAE with a 2650. LS6 hasn’t

Try again Hillbilly
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Originally Posted by islander033
All this bench racing turtle talk is fun.
Destroying Doug is a fun hobby
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Then it should be easy for you......now go do it.

I can't find any comparable mod junk that's within 50whp. Not even yalls fake *** 494 make believe hp. It got curb stomped in average power by a bolt on ls6.

You fake junk couldn't back up that 1200whp at the track
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Then it should be easy for you......now go do it.

I can't find any comparable mod junk that's within 50whp. Not even yalls fake *** 494 make believe hp. It got curb stomped in average power by a bolt on ls6.

You fake junk couldn't back up that 1200whp at the track
Reality check… it wasn’t fake
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Track times then to back it up 1200whp should go pretty fast if it's real. ....but it be like that 494 is fake as ****. Weak *** bitch of a tq curve is sad.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Track times then to back it up 1200whp should go pretty fast if it's real. ....but it be like that 494 is fake as ****. Weak *** bitch of a tq curve is sad.
Back up your 54x pull..

Pot meet kettle…


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