S8ER95Z

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http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...=1#post4108156

New GT goes 13.7 @ 98mph 1.95 60ft....

Guy on there is claiming thats LS1 territory...

Im saying stock lt1 ...

What do you guys think..ive hit him with hard evidence/facts.. hes still in denial.

LT1 Guy

13.7... I'd say that's a stock LT1 on a good day and a stock LS1 on any given day.

That forum was just a bunch of BS arguing with more BS. Come on now: 195 rwhp, 285 lbs. of torque, 3250 curb weight running 13.62 @ 98.8 mph! WTF? Stay off the crack.

METALBEAST

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There was an 05 Mustang M5 running at Atlanta Dragway about 3 weeks ago. I recognized the guy who bought it. I had saw him quite often there before running a Fox body Coupe. He ran a best of 14.6 @ 97. A bone stock 94 LT1 A4 ran 14.6 @96. This is NOT a good track by any stretch but to put things into perspective, stock LS1s run 13.8-14.3 and stock LT1s run 14.3-14.8 stock. I ran him in my vette and blistered his *** . That was fun

The 300 hp rating is right on IMHO for the 3V SOHC 4.6s. They were NOT underrated like the 03-04 Mach 1 motors were. Those cars are stock for stock, VERY close to stock LS1s. Motor Tested one and ran a 13.6 @99.9. The TRAP SPEED is consistent with the test they have had with the LT1 F-bodies, 96-98 DOHC Cobras and the 99-04 GTs. They said "This is faster than any 99-04 GT we ever tested. They tested a 99 GT a that ran a 14.0 @ 100.2 about 5 years earlier. Yes the ET was quicker, but the Trap speed was about the same.

I just read that thread. MORONS They don't seem to understand the concept of Trap Speed and its indicator of HP. 13.7 with a 1.94 60'? WOW, I'm REALLY impressed. And at a whopping 98 mph. That is LS6 territory

METALBEAST

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Damn! I read it again and S8ER95Z you make that guy look like the TROLL he is. Slower shifting increases MPH??????????

S8ER95Z

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LMAO.. well I found out he was arguing in the political threads for the last 3 weeks..he appeared to be used to spouting off his opinion with no evidence and never admitting fault. LT1 representing

Fade2blk500

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98 mph trap speed.. not even close to ls1 territory as they trap from 105-108 stock, might be able to run with a stock 6 speed lt1 with a mediokar driver

Vendetta

13.7 is a little slow for LS1s.. my friend has a '99 TA, ran a 13.4 E/T with an M6 bone stock. Another guy I know ran a 13.2 e/t with an '02 35th, again bone stock...

METALBEAST

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13.6 @99 from Motor Trend, 14.2 @ 102 from Automobile. GM High Tech Performance and Chevy High Performance routinely pull 13.8s and 13.9s @98 from BONE STOCK 100K+ mile A4 LT1 Z28s

FIREHAWK #7

YEah those ls1 are monsters, my friend ran his BONE stock TA the other day, keep in mind that this is his first time at the track running a car, and he pulled a 13.1 @ 106, his 60ft was 2.1, on 16 inch tires, Plus he didn't get to run anymore b/c he didnt have a helmet. His car is a A4, I think that he has a pretty quick on his hands. He asked me what type of rims he should get, and I said screw the rims get some bolt ons, I think he just ordered some Hooker LT's so that will put in the mid 12's for sure. plus hes going to get some BF goodrich DR's.

BizZzatch350

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Stock to stock, it would eat an LT1 up, what LT1 F-car traps 103 stock? How ever most Lt1s arent stock, so a bolt on LT1/LS1 should tear it up.

METALBEAST

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What 05 GT is trapping 103 Stock? Fastest I have seen in a mag is 102. Fastest LT1 I have seen in a mag is 106. Fastest at the track is 98. The one that ran at Commerce (manual 5 speed) ran a best of 14.6 @ 97. Dexter93 ran 1 time at Commerce when his 93 Formula A4 was bone stock and ran 14.4 @98.

BizZzatch350

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Nm, your right. I thought I heard they were trapping in at what an LS1 A4 traps.

METALBEAST

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From what I'm reading the the magazines, on forums and most importantly from what I saw with my own eyes of one being driven by a guy I know who is a pretty good driver they are running 97-100 MPH traps in stock form.

S8ER95Z

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Yeah my point to them was a sub 2.0 60ft is great on any car. I give that driver props for the 13.7... Just one of those IF things, but IF I could have pulled better than 2.1 60fts I might have done better than 14.1 @ 97mph bone stock (3:23 auto, 74,000miles jun 2001.)

If you correct that 13.7 for a 2.1 60ft he migh have a 99mph trap but once again Ets would be close to a stock lt1.

I havnt checked on the thread today..wonder if that guy decided to come back or not. LOL

METALBEAST

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I just checked. He never did. The other guys on the site agreed with what you and I were saying.

wickedwarlock

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S8ER95Z,
I check in too, he didn't post yet either. The only thing that makes me wonder is the Motortrend article posted it with a 5 speed auto for the GT. They posted a 13.66. I can't remember that trap time but I will post it once I get home. They said that the stick would run a little quicker but they said that this would outperform the current Pontiac GTO, at least the 350hp version. That's motortrend's comments. I have a subscription and I think it's for Novermber or December's issue. Like I said, I will verify it once I get home tonight. They said the stick should be close to the svt mustang. It's hard to believe but that's what the article said. It should be on their website soon, I think they make you wait two weeks. I post the info as soon as I get home.

scotts94_z28

i pulled a 101 mph trap speed with just an intake on street tires in my A4 94 Z

METALBEAST

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The trap speed was 99 MPH. Motor Trend tested an auto 94 Formula in 1994 and ran a 14.0 @97.9. The dumbasses are not taking into account the 60' time that these cars pull. It makes ALL the difference. This is why I HATE Motor Trend. They ran a 13.7 @ 103 in the GTO that they tested if I am not mistaken. Now 103 vs 99. Yeah that really outperforms the GTO. And saying that the stick will be close to the SVT Mustang The 03-04 Cobras trap at 108-111 bone stock. I have saw the 05 GT with a Manual 5-speed at the track and I have saw plenty of Cobras. They are at 0.9 seconds faster in the quarter. Those trolls are so clueless at MT

LoPeY

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Those people seem pretty clueless. I love how one of them claimed his trap speed was so low because the elevation at the track was 350ft...

wickedwarlock

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The trap speed was 99 MPH. Motor Trend tested an auto 94 Formula in 1994 and ran a 14.0 @97.9. The dumbasses are not taking into account the 60' time that these cars pull. It makes ALL the difference. This is why I HATE Motor Trend. They ran a 13.7 @ 103 in the GTO that they tested if I am not mistaken. Now 103 vs 99. Yeah that really outperforms the GTO. And saying that the stick will be close to the SVT Mustang The 03-04 Cobras trap at 108-111 bone stock. I have saw the 05 GT with a Manual 5-speed at the track and I have saw plenty of Cobras. They are at 0.9 seconds faster in the quarter. Those trolls are so clueless at MT
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I agree, but it was 99.9mph, lol. The track has always been different. I try to do a fair comparison by picking magazine versus magazine and track versus the track. To give you an idea, the hemi truck they said ran 15.1 sc, sb with 20s and 3.92 gears. But at the track, I've seen them run 14.6s-14.7s all night long. At least here in maryland.

Hey, I'm not defending them, I have a 97 formula with 2.73s, a4 and it ran a 13.6 with just a h3 programmer and a flowmaster muffler and street 16" tires.

The magazine posted a 3.31 rear (typical ford rear) only. I was impressed since it was only an automatic too. I guess we will have to wait to see one at the track here. I hit the track regularly and hopefully I can talk to one of the owners. But these cars are new, the cobra has been out for two years so people have the launching down. I think 9 tenths will be shortened once they get down the feel. Besides 9 tenths for 10k more. It's really not bad and it's about time that ford got on the right track. I hope chevy does too soon. Because price/performance is where the buyers are at. Think about it, that's why the rice sells. It's cheap performance per dollar. Why you think the srt-4 sells so well. Now with 230hp and only 2500 pounds at 20k, its a good/price/performance ratio.