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Old 12-05-2004, 12:27 PM
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yeah I will say Jaeg and those guys always have good video's with good music!
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Originally Posted by King02SS
Great vid Jeager! Love the music and good kill. BTW Jeagers got a nice little cam there. Alot of new cams have come out in the past year. Alot of cams that could put 3-4 cars on the cams of old. Now I doubt the cobra was making 100 more horse than the camaro. But I will say this a good cammed ls1 vs a pully+chip cobra and my money's on the ls1. I don't care if the cobra traps what he says he does or makes the power he says he has. Why worry about it? Just go race the Cobra yourself if you doubt his boasted numbers.
What cam does jaeger have? I don't know....the TR224 has been out a long time and still one of the best all around performer's for stock headed cars. (In temrs of streetable cams)
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
What cam does jaeger have? I don't know....the TR224 has been out a long time and still one of the best all around performer's for stock headed cars. (In temrs of streetable cams)
The title of this posts references a TR230.
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Yes.There are cams out there making more peak hp then this one.But this is what i wanted.A cam with great peak hp while still having power down low.
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
What cam does jaeger have? I don't know....the TR224 has been out a long time and still one of the best all around performer's for stock headed cars. (In temrs of streetable cams)
The 224 is a great cam but it's strongest point is it's driveability for the power not the power it makes alone. Look at all the 230 split cams and now the trex. Those bigger cams would put a good car or two on even a well tuned 224 in cam only cars. But that's not what I was trying to get across. What I was trying to say is they talk about running cammed ls1s like there's no difference between them. Yes a 224 cam is a good cam but there are better cam only cams out there now if you're looking for power.
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I don't know, I saw a graph of a TR224 & F13 & G5X3 (I think) cam's overlapping each other and the TR224 kicked those bigger cams butt's up until about 5k rpm, so although the other cams ultimately put out more peak HP, the 224 was better under the curve which makes me think in the 1/4 mile or even a street race the performance results would not be much different
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
I don't know, I saw a graph of a TR224 & F13 & G5X3 (I think) cam's overlapping each other and the TR224 kicked those bigger cams butt's up until about 5k rpm, so although the other cams ultimately put out more peak HP, the 224 was better under the curve which makes me think in the 1/4 mile or even a street race the performance results would not be much different
The thing is if you don't go under 4k rpm because you've got a 4k stall and 4.10 gears then you want to make your power up high like that. I've seen a few cam only 224s go into the 11s. But I've heard of people taking g5x3s into the deep 11s cam only. The thing is just because the power is up high at 5k doesnt mean that it wont see it's power all the time if the car is properly tuned. The trex is ridiculous and to me not a street cam but cam only trex's have hit 10s and that's a 244 duration, I believe, that wasn't around a year ago. So what I'm saying is they run a slew of 220 cammed cars and think because they beat all of those that they'd have no trouble with a 244 cammed car. Jeagers is a 230 or so all the vids say and it's a very very nice cam only cam. Put his 230 against a 224 and see what the outcome is then you can make your call. I got nothing against a 224 cam I would definately run one in mine but it's not the best cam only cam available now.
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110mph, jeez... that's what my Z28 trapped with the motor out of balance..
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Nice video!!
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thank you whitecamaross, many fail to realize that its a LOT Harder to run well here in FL when the humidity hardly ever drops below 80! and temps drop below 80 only a couple months a year.


Yes, the Red Cobra has problems. thats not our problem, were out racing having a damn good time... The Black cobra runs excpetionally well, I think it has the FL recored for its mods......... so please, watch both races before you comment.


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broke7 lives in Florida. Run him. If you win, I'll be extremely impressed. His car runs like a Cobra should and he knows how to drive it.
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Originally Posted by kb99ws6
don't know, I saw a graph of a TR224 & F13 & G5X3 (I think) cam's overlapping each other and the TR224 kicked those bigger cams butt's up until about 5k rpm, so although the other cams ultimately put out more peak HP, the 224 was better under the curve which makes me think in the 1/4 mile or even a street race the performance results would not be much different
could you post the link to that graph...i'm finding it hard to believe a smaller cam outpowered a futral cam's "under the curve" power...especially since they are known for that, and also outpowering top-end slightly bigger cams
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I believe the graph he is talking about is the 224 vs a f11 & a g5x2. the 224 held its on down low but the bigger cams pulled away up top. Ill see if i can find it.
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It's the TR224, F13 & G5x2. Here's the graph:

http://community.webshots.com/album/165849644HPPiod
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the air fuel ratio's are all different...couln't that have made the differences...
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people have different opinions on that. Some said the tuning for the TR224 was actually the worst meaning it should have done even better.
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Dyno numbers really do not guarantee anything.... Hence the problem with dyno racing. The Cobra could make those numbers consistently on the dyno yet lean out when trying to pull that heavy *** cobra on a top end run. Obviously it is not running correctly gaining very little in the second 1/8th, but just because it made a certain dyno number means little when race time comes. Raceweight and both drivers skill also make a huge factor here....
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There's a local guy where i'm from that but down 460rwhp with just a tune and pulley, not intake or exhaust. I tried racin him and he put bus length after bus length on my ***. So i'd say dyno numbers can mean a lot.
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Originally Posted by silverbeast
I believe the graph he is talking about is the 224 vs a f11 & a g5x2. the 224 held its on down low but the bigger cams pulled away up top. Ill see if i can find it.
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