Stang Vs. Ls-1
05-05-2005, 09:57 PM
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Stang Vs. Ls-1 Well tonight me and some friends were hanging out at the local performance shop and one of my buddies pull in, he has a 91 Mustang that used to be a 4banger and he swapped it for a 302 with e303 cam, MAC cold-air, 3.73 gear, X-pipe, and single chamber flows. He's wanting a race so low and behold in pulls a 2000 or a 2001 WS6 Bone Stock a4. Hes willing race so we were willing to try.
First Race: From a 10-15 roll i was in the Mustang, First gear we spun and 2nd and 3rd gear we were trying to play catch up, in the meantime the WS6 put 2-3 cars on us and we shut it down.
Second Race: From a dig we both hit it at the same time and again i was riding in the Mustang and we threw the belt
So we had to shut it down to fix the belt and let it cool down.
Third Race: Again from a dig, we spun bad and got pulled HARD... I love LS-1's but damn i didnt know they were that fast...
Fourth and Final Race: From a roll again we spun but cought and actually stayed with him until third, then the tail lights just got further and further away... So we shut it down and went home
All in all i think if the Mustang could have hooked up it would have been some better races but the WS6 gets some major credit for being bone stock and pulling that hard... It just makes the countdown to getting my SS seem a whole lot longer.
First Race: From a 10-15 roll i was in the Mustang, First gear we spun and 2nd and 3rd gear we were trying to play catch up, in the meantime the WS6 put 2-3 cars on us and we shut it down.
Second Race: From a dig we both hit it at the same time and again i was riding in the Mustang and we threw the belt
So we had to shut it down to fix the belt and let it cool down.Third Race: Again from a dig, we spun bad and got pulled HARD... I love LS-1's but damn i didnt know they were that fast...
Fourth and Final Race: From a roll again we spun but cought and actually stayed with him until third, then the tail lights just got further and further away... So we shut it down and went home
All in all i think if the Mustang could have hooked up it would have been some better races but the WS6 gets some major credit for being bone stock and pulling that hard... It just makes the countdown to getting my SS seem a whole lot longer.
05-05-2005, 10:08 PM
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It may have been the driver, but he can drive pretty damn good, the car has some serious problems hooking up, what is stuff he can get to help him hook up better besides tires because this car just doesnt hook at all
05-05-2005, 11:43 PM
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Yeah if that stang didn't have heads and a intake he shoulda known not to race an LS1.
An E303 cam isn't exactly a "monster" of a cam either
So the results sound about right
An E303 cam isn't exactly a "monster" of a cam either
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05-06-2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FormulaFire
they are pretty slow. Those 302 supercharged with Bolt ons run LOW 13's..
It depends on the S/C, how much boost, and what bolt-ons. You'll see big differences on different setups. Same thing for the 4.6's.
Originally Posted by 89tang
Yeah if that stang didn't have heads and a intake he shoulda known not to race an LS1. ..
05-06-2005, 08:52 AM
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No, neither of the cars have heads or intake, from the beginning we knew the LS-1 would win but just not by that much because it is bone stock, but i guess thats just reason to put some mods on the Mustang... and the LS-1 too
05-06-2005, 09:35 AM
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they are pretty slow. Those 302 supercharged with Bolt ons run LOW 13's..
05-06-2005, 10:14 AM
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i've helped build 2 motors with performer intakes, e303 cam, stock heads, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, and flowmaster exhaust and none of them could touch 13's. At best they were running a 14.5. 302's cant go to fast. My friend had a mustang built by brothers performance that had a 347 stroker with forged pistons, x303 cam, ported aluminum heads, and a vortech blower. The whole suspension was setup for drag racing and it could lift the front tires up when launched. the setup was supposed to run 10's but it only pulled low 13's.
05-06-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shouup
i've helped build 2 motors with performer intakes, e303 cam, stock heads, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, and flowmaster exhaust and none of them could touch 13's. At best they were running a 14.5. 302's cant go to fast. My friend had a mustang built by brothers performance that had a 347 stroker with forged pistons, x303 cam, ported aluminum heads, and a vortech blower. The whole suspension was setup for drag racing and it could lift the front tires up when launched. the setup was supposed to run 10's but it only pulled low 13's.
. ... that explains it.And you believe a 347 stroker, heads/cam vorteched mustang was slow. You got any contact info on 'Brothers Performance'?
...Maybe I just need to get a sense of humor ...
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05-06-2005, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shouup
i've helped build 2 motors with performer intakes, e303 cam, stock heads, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, and flowmaster exhaust and none of them could touch 13's. At best they were running a 14.5. 302's cant go to fast. My friend had a mustang built by brothers performance that had a 347 stroker with forged pistons, x303 cam, ported aluminum heads, and a vortech blower. The whole suspension was setup for drag racing and it could lift the front tires up when launched. the setup was supposed to run 10's but it only pulled low 13's.
As for the 347 with everything you said lol that dude either set that motor up completely wrong or he couldn't drive worth a damn. My stang will hit 12's with traction @ around 107-108mph and i have a lowly 306 with unported rpm heads, typhoon intake, and a small N41 cam without even using my spray
. Sorry 302's can be pretty quick for the size of em.
05-06-2005, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shouup
i've helped build 2 motors with performer intakes, e303 cam, stock heads, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, and flowmaster exhaust and none of them could touch 13's. At best they were running a 14.5. 302's cant go to fast. My friend had a mustang built by brothers performance that had a 347 stroker with forged pistons, x303 cam, ported aluminum heads, and a vortech blower. The whole suspension was setup for drag racing and it could lift the front tires up when launched. the setup was supposed to run 10's but it only pulled low 13's.
You know someone that had a blown 347 that went 13's
05-06-2005, 06:18 PM
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5.0's can be very fast i wouldnt doubt them just bc of some slow *** motor somebody threw together. with a set of nice trick flow heads and intake and a big hydralic roller came 500hp aint hard to make. 5.0's are no joke and im my opinion are one of the best easliy built simple drag cars much like first gen fbodys
05-06-2005, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ws697
5.0's can be very fast i wouldnt doubt them just bc of some slow *** motor somebody threw together. with a set of nice trick flow heads and intake and a big hydralic roller came 500hp aint hard to make. 5.0's are no joke and im my opinion are one of the best easliy built simple drag cars much like first gen fbodys
I agree...
05-06-2005, 07:39 PM
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yeah the BIGGEST thing to do to a 5.slo is suspention and chassis work. and ironicaly, its the MOST over looked. sticky tires, all the suspention goodies and some basic bolt ons and they can be pretty formidable.
05-06-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shouup
i've helped build 2 motors with performer intakes, e303 cam, stock heads, 1.6 rockers, long tubes, and flowmaster exhaust and none of them could touch 13's. At best they were running a 14.5. 302's cant go to fast. My friend had a mustang built by brothers performance that had a 347 stroker with forged pistons, x303 cam, ported aluminum heads, and a vortech blower. The whole suspension was setup for drag racing and it could lift the front tires up when launched. the setup was supposed to run 10's but it only pulled low 13's.
i'm good freand's with a guy that ran 12.8's with ported e7's and intake cam and bolt-on's. just last week i installed a compucar 175 wet shot on his car and let me tell you that saturday night at the street race's the kid went on a killing spree.so dont take this the wrong way, but if you claim that you built two 302 motor's and all that guy could muster up is 14.5's and none of them could touch 13's something's not wright with you story bro. i hope you no that in nmra factory stock class's guy's are doing low 12's out of those little v8's.