Who would win: 2001 Stang vs. My 01 WS6
08-22-2005 | 03:44 PM
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I just went on corral.net and looked up project mongoose. It's a 99 5-speed with only exhaust and a s-Trim. Put down 242RWHP with exhaust only. Added blower = 350RWHP, 354RWTRQ..........So, I think that's what my buddy should be close to. I think it comes down to a weight thing now....and driver. I know if I raced him from a dig, I should get him as my car hooks basically right away. I know from owning a stang, that w/o sicky tires, the launch is pretty hairy. Hard to get traction.
08-22-2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
They were ok when new, they will work better then any street tire but not much better. I suggest going with BFs or MTs, they hook better but don't last as long.
A stock 5spd GT with a s-sq trim and a shitty vortech tune can easly put down 370rwhp, the minor bolt-ons will add more power then it would on a N/A car, the gains are much high on FI. On a 5sp a good tune and minor bolt-ons can be around 400rwhp. Is his car intercooled? Like I said if its 8psi hes in the high 300s if it around 10psi don't be surprised if hes over 400. For xample, my GT is an auto with a full xhaust and a vortech tune I was only pushing 343rwhp on a stock shitty auto. After a tune upper intake tb/maf, bolt-ons I was 373, then a different tune I was at 383rwhp on a stock auto. That was probably one of the highes hp heard of from an auto with not many mods and stock trans. If no one believes me look at my cardomain page on the bottom there are dyno sheets. The 5spd will put out alittle more power, I have to get mine tuned again cause now it has a built motor different pulley(12-14psi) built trans (converter) and 75shot
.... But my old set up with a stock trans was very quick I even suprised a few cammed ls1s....
BTW them dynos were with a walbro fuel pump (very bad for returnless fuel system), it was starving for fuel.
A stock 5spd GT with a s-sq trim and a shitty vortech tune can easly put down 370rwhp, the minor bolt-ons will add more power then it would on a N/A car, the gains are much high on FI. On a 5sp a good tune and minor bolt-ons can be around 400rwhp. Is his car intercooled? Like I said if its 8psi hes in the high 300s if it around 10psi don't be surprised if hes over 400. For xample, my GT is an auto with a full xhaust and a vortech tune I was only pushing 343rwhp on a stock shitty auto. After a tune upper intake tb/maf, bolt-ons I was 373, then a different tune I was at 383rwhp on a stock auto. That was probably one of the highes hp heard of from an auto with not many mods and stock trans. If no one believes me look at my cardomain page on the bottom there are dyno sheets. The 5spd will put out alittle more power, I have to get mine tuned again cause now it has a built motor different pulley(12-14psi) built trans (converter) and 75shot
.... But my old set up with a stock trans was very quick I even suprised a few cammed ls1s....BTW them dynos were with a walbro fuel pump (very bad for returnless fuel system), it was starving for fuel.
Still hard to believe that a 4.6l will make extra 150whp with only a S/C. I guess that race will show the results.
Let us know how it goes man.
08-23-2005 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
Still hard to believe that a 4.6l will make extra 150whp with only a S/C. I guess that race will show the results.
ls1 wins IMO
08-23-2005 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 98SuperSport
x-pipe and exhaust are his mods too, and i would assume a cold air setup, but not all guys are going to make a lot of power with this blower, regardless of what one guy made... the 20s and lack of a sticky tire will kill him also i doubt hes a great driver (the car is a vert is why i guess this)
ls1 wins IMO
ls1 wins IMO
08-23-2005 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
With his power he will rape you, the only way you do have a chance is from a dig and you hookin cause he aint going nowhere with 20s. I have 18s and nitto drs and it don't help at all.
08-23-2005 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by soontobeLS1
I just went on corral.net and looked up project mongoose. It's a 99 5-speed with only exhaust and a s-Trim. Put down 242RWHP with exhaust only. Added blower = 350RWHP, 354RWTRQ..........So, I think that's what my buddy should be close to. I think it comes down to a weight thing now....and driver. I know if I raced him from a dig, I should get him as my car hooks basically right away. I know from owning a stang, that w/o sicky tires, the launch is pretty hairy. Hard to get traction.
08-23-2005 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
BFG suck in the rain and I want to be able to have these tires all summer long, so nittos would probably be the best choice.
Still hard to believe that a 4.6l will make extra 150whp with only a S/C. I guess that race will show the results.
Let us know how it goes man.
Still hard to believe that a 4.6l will make extra 150whp with only a S/C. I guess that race will show the results.
Let us know how it goes man.
Thats usually average, I don't know if you looked at my dynos but I got that with a stock auto. It all depends on the pounds hes putting out. ya pick up between 120 and 140 with 8psi and a quite a bit more with 10psi
. Im just letting ya know from xperiance Ive owned 3 Fbody and an LS1 with just under 350rwhp. My sc gt with 343rwhp was .2 quicker in the 1/4, my GT is also 3320#s...
08-23-2005 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyConstant
what do you mean the 18s and nitto drs dont help at all?
08-23-2005 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sukkoi19
I picked up 200 rwhp with 12 psi on a mostly stock 5.0L.
08-23-2005 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
Where would you get that its close? The only way I would think its close is if hes dumb enough to race with that kinda power and 20s... Do you know if hes got any other tire for that car?
The GT will have alittle under 400rwhp with them mod and 8psi let alone 10psi, with 10psi he will be over 400rwhp and hes lighter.
The GT will have alittle under 400rwhp with them mod and 8psi let alone 10psi, with 10psi he will be over 400rwhp and hes lighter.
08-23-2005 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
Why's that?
08-23-2005 | 12:46 PM
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Where would I get that it would be close? Um you act like the GT would absolutely run away from him like he wasnt moving....which certainly wouldnt be the case. Also, you said it would only be close if he is dumb enough to race with that kind of power and 20's, well im just goin on what the guy described in the original post and he said he would be on 20's, which elads me to believe (whether im right or wrong) that his set-up isnt made for all out street/track racing. Thats why I think it will be close. I still think the mustang will win,w hich is what i put in my original post so if you know more than what is posted about the stang then let me know. Anyways sounds like its gonna be a fun race and let us know the results. Good luck!
I actually hope the WS6 pulls it off anyway, maybe the guy in the GT won't talk **** about drag racing on 20" wheels
But as I stated the GT will have the edge, and the way a centi. blower builds boost the LS1 will have even a harder time from a roll. My dynos just continue to make power, the more RPM the power keeps climbing.
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08-23-2005 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
My car with 18" wheels & drags still don't hook for ****, mine are not that heavy. Big wheel with any respectable bit of power suck.
why not a 18 / 10.5 with some nitto 555rs?
08-23-2005 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyConstant
so your saying a 16 wouldnt have spinned as much?
why not a 18 / 10.5 with some nitto 555rs?
why not a 18 / 10.5 with some nitto 555rs?
08-23-2005 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Joegt38
What kinda power ya puttin out with the stang? My buddy has a H/C/I s trim with 12psi and made 465rwhp with a very rich *** tune, the AF fell off the chart it was so rich. I figured with a tune he could be damn near 500rwhp.
S-Trim dont ask me the pulley size is, it makes 12-13#
GT40 Irons with a valve job 1.6 RRs
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I had them tune it for 11.0 A/F because they were morons and didnt know how to properly load the dyno, my wideband puts me at 11.8 for the most part. Ive only got 20* total timing in it as well and as I usually run race gas for the big nights Ill bump that up to 26* total. More timing makes for lots more fun with the boost.