LOL. This thread is hillarious....Dans car is a mach 1 with spray...To those of you that believe a Z06 rear suspension is somehow weak, or less than a capable that a mach 1? Z06's have been 8's on the bone stock suspension....

 

dan03mach, you do not have a stock motor. and anybody who agrees with you was probably your potatoe sack race teammate in the special olympics. don't get me wrong. you do have a bad *** car, you're obviously a very skilled driver, and you run some very good times. But seriously, quit with the stock motor bullshit, it's ******* rediculous. you're running nitrous for god's sake. You have a very cool car that runs good times, but it seems like you've been bragging about your times with the limited mods you have for a long time on here. i'm not trying to be a ******** but i completely agree with 300hp/ton and kbws6. peace out.

 

I do have a stock motor.. If you think Nitrous makes a motor not stock you are wrong.. I have a stock motor with bolt ons and nitrous, why is this so hard for some people to understand.. If I don't have stock motor well tell me then what do I have in the motor to make it not Stock??? Don't tell me exhaust or N20 either because neither one of those are part of the motor... I have all ways told people what I have on my car.. You say I have been bragging about my times for a long time here with limited mods, well I have only had the nitrous on the car for 3 weeks now going on 4, and before the nitrous my car ran very low 12's almost 11's N/A with very little mods so whats up now... Since I put the N20 on I also took out my 4.30 gears and put in a more street able gear, 3.73's.. If I wanted to make this car run 10's it would.. I would just strip it down to do so but I like having all of my interior in the car while driving around and at the track now..

 

I guess some people are just to dumb to understand what a motor is on this site.. Hell I thought people were smarter then that but I guess not... Since when does nitrous have anything to do with making the motor it self non stock, It would still be a stock motor with nitrous, I don't see why that is so hard for some people to understand. The samething with different exhaust.. What is that thing under the hood that the exhaust bolts to?? O yeah its called a motor, just to let some of the folks here know what that thing is because some are lacking in that department..

 

you don't have a stock motor.

 

Like I asked above whats not stock about the motor??? Give me the list of internial parts I used to make my motor non stock... Answer that queston... You can't because you know its true... I think all of this b.s is because I have a Mach1 and nothing else.. I see many threads everyday on here were people say the samething I do and not one word is said about them not having a stock motor.. Why don't you go tell some of the LS1's guys that and see what they say back to you.. Now get out of my thread troll...

 

I'm tired of reading what some of the dumb ***'s on here are saying.. If they can't understand a simple concept or if they are just trying to start a war they really don't even need to be on this site.. Can we get a mod to lock this thread... I really can't stand to lissen to some of these idiots anymore...

Thanks Dan

 

I could've sworn there was intake and exhaust that come from an engine???? Wouldn't an exhaust system be considered a part of that engine using deductive reasoning?

I could be wrong though.

 

All this bickering makes me want to go out & race somebody. Oh ...............that's right, I can't because it's freaken 20 degrees F outside, snowing like a Mother, & my car's up on jackstands gettin' it's winter mod's.. .....Damnit!

 

If you bolt different wheels on your car does that mean your rear is not stock? Putting headers on a stock motor is still a stock motor...with headers. If you say your car is completely stock , then you are a liar. If you say your motor is stock, but you have bolt -ons that is fact. Is this really so hard to understand or is this just bullshit to keep a dumb thread going?

 

 

DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOOOOOOOOU DAMN THREAD!!!!!! Jesus 7 pages of this crap!!

 

Thats not very good deductive reasoning. That's like saying your neck is connected to your head, so it must be part of your brain.

 

yesitis noitsnot yesitis noitsnot...........OMG

 

I have also found some of the mach 1 guys post to be disleading....

It's a well known fact that F bodys are faster stock for stock than mach1's....

But only by a tenth or two on average..It is close..The mach one guys know that normally stock for stock the average f body is quicker than the average mach1.

So of course they will have there fastest guys come and post on the LS1 site...

You think the average mach 1 running 13.7 bone stock at sea level is gonna have the ***** to come to lS1 tech and talk about killin LS1's?

No....But the best of the best will...13.1 is respectable by any ones standards...Even if it was in the best weather you could hope for.

And yes they will be slightly disleading to have you think that there slightly slower Mach 1 wich usualy only trapps 103 mph (in good weather) is just as fast as your LS1 with minimal mods....

BUT THE EXACT SAME THING CAN BE SAID ABOUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND THERE F BODYS..

I dont know how many times Ive seen people try to prove to me how there F body is just as fast as a C5 or faster..

It is well knowned that the typical mn6 C5 will trap around 107-109 mph.

It is also well knowned that the typical mn6 F body will trap around 105-107 mph..

But there have been so many post of an F body guy claiming a high 12 or low 13 bone stock and saying that he killed a stock C5 that only ran a 13.2..

Then as you read on you find out that the bone stock F body had a CAI and exhaust....maybe some DR's to in a lot of cases....

But he chose not to list those cas the engines bone stock right?

Then the C5 guys do the same thing when they race a Cobra at the track and say they beat him stock for stock...

Forgettiong to mention there CAI....Wich was a VARARAM and good for 2-3 tenths on many C5's.....But hey it's just a cold air intake...It's still all stock.

We all find ways to make our car seam quicker than it is......

The mach1 guys were slightly misleading....But dont call them out on it just cas they own a crappy ford....Especialy when many of us do the same thing.

 

OH...BTW.....To the Mach 1 guy who ran 13.19 show room stock...

Your ET is impressive....But the MPH is not....105 mph in the air posted on your time slip is nonthing special if your car was an LS1...

My 2.73 a4 LS1 would trapp higher than 105 mph in that tempature and humidity...

Trapp speed tells how powerful a car really is...

On the mustang sites I went to...Most mach 1's trapped 102-103 mph...There were a few in the 104 range and yours was the highest I saw at 105 mph....

No one would even turn there head if some one posted on the drag racing section that there bone stock down to the paper filter F body trapped 105 mph.

Not trying to be a Dick...Cas from what Ive read you seem like a really kool and level headed guy....But just stating my opinion on the Mach 1....

 

Doesn't a Mach 1 have an engine and not a motor?

 

News flash, in drag racing it's about about who gets there first. Not who has the highest mph. Go hang out with the supras with that thinking.
-Mark

 

I totally see where you are comming from with that remark: 12.04@112.27 (1.57 60ft)
An LS1 would be trapping more like 120 mph with that e.t.

 

300bhp/ton

You're 100% wrong my friend...sorry. Nitrous, bolt ons, a blower, twin turbos, bolted
up to an untouched motor = a bone stock motor. Everything else of course would
be highly modified.

Example:

I have a friend with a '91 Fox 'Stang with a stock '03 Cobra longblock
and a single T-76 turbo kit that runs 150mph. The car is highly modified. However, the motor is stock...just like Ford built it.

Post all the "data" or comments you'd like. They are irrelevant. In the industry, that
is definitely a stock motor. End of story.