380RWHP Stalled A4 Vs. 400RWHP M6
01-23-2006, 11:52 PM
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380RWHP Stalled A4 Vs. 400RWHP M6 I honestly dont know too much about what the power gap is on a stalled A4 car vs. a M6 for them to run about the same, RWHP wise. But i was just wondering, say you had a 380RWHP Stalled A4 Vs. 400RWHP M6, who would win, and by how much?
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01-24-2006, 09:00 AM
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Can't say "any" because the outcome would be totally different.
From a dig @ the track, the A4 has a slight edge due to launch however if the M6 has a good drivetrain & driver it's anybody's game.
From a 55 mph roll, a 400 rw M6 would eat alive a 380 rw A4. Back in 99-00 I was outrunning cam only A4's in the 360-380 rwhp range with a stock internal 351 rwhp M6 car.
From a dig @ the track, the A4 has a slight edge due to launch however if the M6 has a good drivetrain & driver it's anybody's game.
From a 55 mph roll, a 400 rw M6 would eat alive a 380 rw A4. Back in 99-00 I was outrunning cam only A4's in the 360-380 rwhp range with a stock internal 351 rwhp M6 car.
01-24-2006, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Can't say "any" because the outcome would be totally different.
From a dig @ the track, the A4 has a slight edge due to launch however if the M6 has a good drivetrain & driver it's anybody's game.
From a 55 mph roll, a 400 rw M6 would eat alive a 380 rw A4. Back in 99-00 I was outrunning cam only A4's in the 360-380 rwhp range with a stock internal 351 rwhp M6 car.
From a dig @ the track, the A4 has a slight edge due to launch however if the M6 has a good drivetrain & driver it's anybody's game.
From a 55 mph roll, a 400 rw M6 would eat alive a 380 rw A4. Back in 99-00 I was outrunning cam only A4's in the 360-380 rwhp range with a stock internal 351 rwhp M6 car.
But why is the A4 not so good from a roll?
01-24-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Luna
I believe its mostly in the gearing and how much power its stealing vs the m6
Ever ride in a bone stock A4 car? Go WOT into 3rd gear and feel how far the car falls on it's face from the 3rd gear ratio. Same applies to a 380 car, just doesn't feel as bad because the car is making more power. An M6 car keeps pulling all the way through 5th gear, especially w/ 400 rw.
MPH is everything in a roll race.
01-24-2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 98NBM_TransAm
Good info, thanks! But why is the A4 not so good from a roll?
But why is the A4 not so good from a roll?
Ever tried to launch an M6? If we rev to high, the tires will spin, dont rev enough, and it falls on its face. A4's don't bog, due to the stall converter. This comes at a parasitic cost. The M6's don't have this loss when roll racing, with a strong enough clutch, its almost like a direct-drive system.
01-24-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
From a 55 mph roll, a 400 rw M6 would eat alive a 380 rw A4. Back in 99-00 I was outrunning cam only A4's in the 360-380 rwhp range with a stock internal 351 rwhp M6 car.
01-24-2006, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveATransAm
ive stayed even or outrun several 400 rwhp M6 cars from a roll. my car only dynoed close to 380 (386 i think).
01-24-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveATransAm
ive stayed even or outrun several 400 rwhp M6 cars from a roll. my car only dynoed close to 380 (386 i think).
01-24-2006, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveATransAm
ive stayed even or outrun several 400 rwhp M6 cars from a roll. my car only dynoed close to 380 (386 i think).
01-24-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Turo
I believe you, because you are trapping 119 mph. But, your average cam&bolt-ons LS1 wont be trapping 119, and probably won't be keeping up with too many 400rwhp M6's from a roll (assumming the M6 driver can drive, M6 is ALL about the driver). With that said, your car is haulin' some *** for cam & boltons!
my buddy with a 02 ws6, Tr230 cam, ls6 intake, 12 bolt w 4:30s, asp pulley, 1 cutout, M6, elec. w/p, shortbelt mod, LT headers and his own ls1 edit tuning went 11.6@120. the DA was -500 which is great and he did have skinnies up front and 15" w/ slicks in the rear. other than that it was full weight. nothing removed.