I'd say 90% of them are.

 

HAHA I wouldn't really call it a RACE... He wasn't nearly going fast enough for it to be considered one. It was just a rolling 1/4 mile sprint... that's all. He tried to lose me, so I caught up. What did I prove/accomplish? I proved/accomplished that he couldn't lose me... Simple as that. It wasn't as "retardedly dangerous" as you think it was. There was exaggeration when I said I nearly rear-ended him (just a good story-telling device). It's not like I was tailgating him or anything. Plus he didn't even reach high speeds when I passed him. There was no danger present at the time.

LOL what makes me the ricer? I don't have a fart can, or stickers, or an electric paint scheme, or a disco ball interior. He should've done his homework if he thought he could've pulled away from an LT1.

I'm not necessarily PROUD of this event, because I didn't even need to shift out of overdrive. I'm just asking, why would a barely-modified Eclipse run an LT1? Didn't he know it wouldn't work? I can see if it was well-modified. That's a different story.

 

Haha don't hate me for that comment because it has truth to it! If you're in a stock 4-cylinder and you know you can't run with the big boys, then why try? That Eclipse should've done it's homework. I'm not saying all Imports are like that. JEEZ don't take it out of context...

 

If you guys say so.

 

Very true, I had a 93 tsi awd that was a DD and ran high 7s in the 8th consistantly. They can be fast and very discreet about it.

 

Maybe I missed it....where is the kill??

 

you don't necessarily have to look like a ricer to play the part. you demonstrated that you have ricer attitude. sounds to me like you started pickng on him..and then he tried to get away from you or something. remember, he went past you..and you followed him.

 

Whoa, hold on there. I'm all for you guys defending the imports, there are a lot of fast ones. But, to say that motor size has nothingto do with how fast a car can be, well, I'm going to have to argue with that. There's a reason why so many racing series have different classes for the 4 bangers and V8s. When building a real race car (non-street legal, requiring a chute, etc.) I'd have to say engine size has at least a little to do with how fast the car can be. If it didn't matter at all, don't you think that Ferrari, or Lamborghini would build a 4 banger? Or maybe Dodge would swap out the huge Viper engine for a 4 cylinder? Hell, Lingenfelter should actually put in smaller engines, because it doesn't matter at all. I know that there are thousands of cars with less than 2 liters that would murder me, but c'mon engine size has nothing to do with how fast the car can be?

 

Picking on him? lol that's a good one. Was it you in that Eclipse? Haha I'll remember that the next time someone paces me. I'll just say they were picking on me, and I'll be let off the hook...

 

And the ricer brigade rolls in...

 

Mmmmmmnnn, Strife.

Look, heres how it is as I see it. Take it for what its worth.

DSMs (that is to say the turbo cars, not the NTs) are a lot like 5.0s in relation to an LS1. Certanly capable of competeing, but you will have to do some well thought out and not insubstancial modding to make it happen in most cases. That means that most of them will not be beating LS1s. Doesnt make them crap, just makes them harder ot make fast than a bolt-ons LS1 or whatever.

Fact: The meaner a DSM looks, the slower it is. This is very true a lot of the time. Exceptions yes, but they are few. The fastest DSMs I have seen are beater looking 1Gs.

The guy owned a rice mobile. I dont see where the problem with that is. Immature? Sure. Guess what, so is street racing. Maybe the guy did pull a ricer like move. Who cares? Ricers calling other ricers is older than time. OK maybe not that old.

I will say that the snobby Viper guys likely say the same **** about Camaros considering that maybe 3/4 of them on this board would not be able to pull one. Ask the people on the board how many would do their best against a Viper if the opportunity arose, even knowing they would get beat. I bet a 80% yes reply. What kind of looser only races when he is sure he will win. A damn insecure panzy. I am looking forward to putting my new setup against cars that will beat me. I am actually trying to organize a race between a DSM freind of mine and a guy with a Lid/Catback LS6ed SS. Me and my DSM freind both agree the F-Body has the advantage for sure. So its going to be for fun, not $, and well run 'em and see. Why do people turn it into a integral part of their self-esteem and get all pissed off?

Maybe it was implied that all Eclipses are slow, but reading into implications online is a fools errand. A lot of meaning behind words gets lost accross a chat board that would not be in face to face conversation. Besides the vast majority of the people on here, especially those worth reading, know what a 4G63 can do.

So aside from some people calling others who have fast(er), classy cars ricers and a few overreaching statements about displacement not mattering, I dont see WTF the hang up is here.

Displacement matters a lot, but it can be overcome. There are many, many other factors. Simple.

 

Not true.

 

Its funny, every "Ricer" you quoted in this post has an import, and every one of them would whip your cars ***. Its kind of funny. I guess you should to the imports?

 

Damn right. It is always fun bc if you do well or actually win it is even more exciting than if you already expected to win. A SS beat a Eclipse, so what? An Eclipse beat an SS? No ****?!!! It is fun to be the underdog. It makes the victory much sweeter. It's also alot more difficult to own a fast dsm than a ls1 I would think.

 

I couldn't care less what the hell they "can do". Bottom line is they're not going to "do" anything.

And at the end of the day, no matter how "fast" their import may be, they are still driving a riced out piece of trash and I'm still driving a respectable muscle car. Thats my point, and no I don't value your opinion in the least bit

 

Xakep and diambo4life, are your cars riced out? Mine is stock-bodied. Guess that is riced-out to you? And I think your muscle car is nice, and respectable, but I wouldn't respect your dumbass. Unlike you, I know how fast cars can be and how nice they are, whether domestic or import.

 

The stock power levels of th LS1 make it easier to get say 400WHP in a no-headache sort of way than a DSM for sure. It takes real know-how to make such power in a normal, hastle free sort of way in a 5.0 or DSM.

 

Because we are slow and they are the Fast and Bicurious.

 

sparetire, that is the reason i went from import turbo to ls1, I wanted ti drive, not stare at my datalogger everytime i did a hard pull. Now Im sure a 800whp ls1 can be troublesome too, more power, more problems.

Confused, that **** is funny, bro, lolololol.