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Originally Posted by EugThinks
Yes please? I'm interested to see what would constitute a good cam for road racing. You can PM me if you want, so that we don't derail this useful, useful thread. 
Cam Motion (contact them directly) has a nice lobe which isn't as aggressive as a Comp XE-R lobe. Something in a 228-230 duration range, slight split, on a .57x lift on 110lsa.
I'd also look into Comp XE grinds of similar size, maybe kick it up to a 232/234 for the XE lobe, again, on a 110lsa, 108icl.
People do use XE-R lobes for RR cam design (LG for one), but a rather beefy valvespring must be used accordingly. Frequent valvetrain observance/maintenance/refreshening would be a must.
In rules limited classes, LSX engines usually end up with a tightened up, LS6 cam with slightly more lift. Both Katech and TPIS offer cams like this for RR.
GMPP ASA and Grand Am Cup cams are also options for someone who wants to go the GMPP route. ASA pairs nicely with GMPP LS6 heads, and can run with LS6 springs.
Finally, there's some lazy Lunati lobes that are easy on the valvetrain. Something like TSP's 231/231 (the original torquer cam) would use those lobes.
As you can see, I'm partial to ease on valvetrain over peak hp/tq figures, as when I was looking around for a RR cam, low maintenance was a high priority.
All of the above options, save for the GMPP Grand Am cup cam are streetable.
Something like the Grand Am Cup cam is pretty race specific and would be a bitch to street (and flycutting would be necessary also).
Last edited by SouthFL.02.SS; May 30, 2006 at 07:22 PM.
Originally Posted by EugThinks
Yes please? I'm interested to see what would constitute a good cam for road racing. You can PM me if you want, so that we don't derail this useful, useful thread.
Well, thanks alot... How do you expect to get us back on track now?
Originally Posted by burnzilla
I have a F*ckin Rocket Scooter
, and it will smoke EVERYTHING, 0-653 mph.
Yesterday, I didnt even wear a helmet
, and it will smoke EVERYTHING, 0-653 mph. Yesterday, I didnt even wear a helmet
Nice sig, man that's good stuff.
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Originally Posted by 6-SPD4ME
It still amazes me , how many ***-clowns like yourself are out there. What does your piece of crap Mazda weigh? Of course going around a corner in a 3700lb car is harder. This is a street racing thread not a road course thread.
Take your Jap scrap back to Japan and do laps around the island.
You and FordFanBoy2 can go take another trip up the Brokeback Mountain!
Take your Jap scrap back to Japan and do laps around the island.
You and FordFanBoy2 can go take another trip up the Brokeback Mountain!
Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
It's also ironic that people who actually know what they're talking about in LS1 speak, people who know their way around an LS1 engine, are being labelled "import trolls".
I mean, all I had to do was sell my F-bodies. I love the change in attitude I get around here from a select few simply because I sold one car and bought another.
Originally Posted by Gloveperson
It's fun being an Import Troll!
I mean, all I had to do was sell my F-bodies. I love the change in attitude I get around here from a select few simply because I sold one car and bought another.
I mean, all I had to do was sell my F-bodies. I love the change in attitude I get around here from a select few simply because I sold one car and bought another.
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I dont like the terms (Jap crap, or red neck) Come on guys its almost on the line of being raciest. Rice buckets or burner is cool, Domestic crap is cool. Lets just keep race and gender out of the name calling.
Also a Ls1 in a rx7 is cool the car looks good, and will move. Domestic style of cars look dam good from the factory( not the azteck) but you see what I am saying. Im a die hard sport car guy and enjoy anything made faster than it was ment. But the domestic vs import battle will rage on, And I say the v8 or v6 domestic boys should unite
Im no longer calling my self cobrakillers 2 for the simple fact that imports are moving in fast 
and we need to come togather Ford and GM and battle the imports 
Allthings being fun and safe Im focousing on Imports more than domestics now
September 15 2006 beware imports
Also a Ls1 in a rx7 is cool the car looks good, and will move. Domestic style of cars look dam good from the factory( not the azteck) but you see what I am saying. Im a die hard sport car guy and enjoy anything made faster than it was ment. But the domestic vs import battle will rage on, And I say the v8 or v6 domestic boys should unite
Im no longer calling my self cobrakillers 2 for the simple fact that imports are moving in fast and we need to come togather Ford and GM and battle the imports Allthings being fun and safe Im focousing on Imports more than domestics now September 15 2006 beware imports
Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
I dont like the terms (Jap crap, or red neck) Come on guys its almost on the line of being raciest. Rice buckets or burner is cool, Domestic crap is cool. Lets just keep race and gender out of the name calling.
Also a Ls1 in a rx7 is cool the car looks good, and will move. Domestic style of cars look dam good from the factory( not the azteck) but you see what I am saying. Im a die hard sport car guy and enjoy anything made faster than it was ment. But the domestic vs import battle will rage on, And I say the v8 or v6 domestic boys should unite Im no longer calling my self cobrakillers 2 for the simple fact that imports are moving in fast and we need to come togather Ford and GM and battle the imports Allthings being fun and safe Im focousing on Imports more than domestics now
September 15 2006 beware imports
Also a Ls1 in a rx7 is cool the car looks good, and will move. Domestic style of cars look dam good from the factory( not the azteck) but you see what I am saying. Im a die hard sport car guy and enjoy anything made faster than it was ment. But the domestic vs import battle will rage on, And I say the v8 or v6 domestic boys should unite Im no longer calling my self cobrakillers 2 for the simple fact that imports are moving in fast and we need to come togather Ford and GM and battle the imports Allthings being fun and safe Im focousing on Imports more than domestics now
September 15 2006 beware imports
I don't want to be embarassed by some sandbagger because I don't know about his car... Besides, there are so many cool people around here that own all kinds of crazy cars. Yeah, you better start focusing on imports... So...
What happens 9/15/06? A speed increase of some sort?
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
I mean, all I had to do was sell my F-bodies. I love the change in attitude I get around here from a select few simply because I sold one car and bought another.
Originally Posted by LSINA7
I didn't read whatever you put up, but S2000's and boxter's are not in the same league as a FD, so either I don't understand what you are saying, or you don't know how well a FD actually handles.
And a boxter s is 3000 pounds too and a s2000 is 2855. I just find it hard to believe that this fd will run circles on these vehicles.
Now benefit of the doubt that most factory brakes aren't **** but I think all things being equal (assuming brakes don't fail and driver has ***** to push the car), that those cars handle well, just like that fbody. Tight nimble track that I can see that because of the weight of the car but like others pointed out, the power out of the corner would make up for that.
edit: And yes, and rx7 with a ls1 under the hood. Well that's a whole different story.
Last edited by wickedwarlock; May 31, 2006 at 07:35 AM.
Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
So your saying that a stock fd will handle better than the s2000 and a boxter s. From what I gathered, they were both turn key track cars. Like I said before, driver has a big role in track racing.
And a boxter s is 3000 pounds too and a s2000 is 2855. I just find it hard to believe that this fd will run circles on these vehicles.
Now benefit of the doubt that most factory brakes aren't **** but I think all things being equal (assuming brakes don't fail and driver has ***** to push the car), that those cars handle well, just like that fbody. Tight nimble track that I can see that because of the weight of the car but like others pointed out, the power out of the corner would make up for that.
And a boxter s is 3000 pounds too and a s2000 is 2855. I just find it hard to believe that this fd will run circles on these vehicles.
Now benefit of the doubt that most factory brakes aren't **** but I think all things being equal (assuming brakes don't fail and driver has ***** to push the car), that those cars handle well, just like that fbody. Tight nimble track that I can see that because of the weight of the car but like others pointed out, the power out of the corner would make up for that.
Word.
An FD IS NOT in the same league as the S2000 and Boxster... That's for damn sure... It's more alng the lines of the NSX, Corvette, Skyline, etc... capable of similar with WAY less power... Quite a feat I think. BTW, There is an RX7 on the RX7 Club website who ran in Thunderhill. While the Camaro SS, S2000, and Boxster were pulling time of 2:16's and 2:17's respectively this RX-7 was running on his stock turbo's, factory spec rwhp, don't think he ever dyno'd it (some of these guuys think dyno's are stupid... I wouldn't go that far, but remember, it's a whole different approach), and had a crazy suspension set-up with weight reduction... He was running 2 minutes flat.
Remember the RX7 is HUGELY underpowered and it's easy to dismiss what caliber car this car is on a track... With mild tire & tuning, this is a car that laps faster, sometimes and in capable hands, than MUCH newer cars with the same prep/set-ups including R33/34 Skylines, M3's, 911's, etc. DEFINITELY in a different league than the S2000 and Poor Man's Porsche aka Boxster. In drag racing they do kind of blow, though.
An FD IS NOT in the same league as the S2000 and Boxster... That's for damn sure... It's more alng the lines of the NSX, Corvette, Skyline, etc... capable of similar with WAY less power... Quite a feat I think. BTW, There is an RX7 on the RX7 Club website who ran in Thunderhill. While the Camaro SS, S2000, and Boxster were pulling time of 2:16's and 2:17's respectively this RX-7 was running on his stock turbo's, factory spec rwhp, don't think he ever dyno'd it (some of these guuys think dyno's are stupid... I wouldn't go that far, but remember, it's a whole different approach), and had a crazy suspension set-up with weight reduction... He was running 2 minutes flat.
Remember the RX7 is HUGELY underpowered and it's easy to dismiss what caliber car this car is on a track... With mild tire & tuning, this is a car that laps faster, sometimes and in capable hands, than MUCH newer cars with the same prep/set-ups including R33/34 Skylines, M3's, 911's, etc. DEFINITELY in a different league than the S2000 and Poor Man's Porsche aka Boxster. In drag racing they do kind of blow, though.
Originally Posted by big reg
I dont think you are getting the point. Have you ever driven some of the cars being talked about other than F-bodys. I have driven EVO's, S2000's owned an STI and modded GSX I could go on forever. Stock for stock the F-body can not hang. My modded F-bod is another story. It is one thing to carry speed through a fast sweeper and pull .90g's on a skidpad. Its a whole different story when multiple corners and transitions are thrown into the equation. The F-bods pull 60mph or so through a slalom course which tests handling during transitions when the chassis is abruptly upset. The cars you are arguing about all pull 69-71 mph through the slalom, no comparison. My STI would murder any stock f-body on a track, roadcourse whatever its not even close. The STI weighs 3263 pounds as well. The EVO handles even better. The FD RX-7's are on par with these vehicles. I don think your getting the point of what a good handling car is. It is more than carrying .87g on a skidpad for a few seconds.
, yes sir I have. Rx7 turbo, took the first evo out here in maryland. Drove the s2000 last year and took a wrx out. Bastartds woundn''t let me take out the sti. 
I'm well aware what they are capable of so your saying the same thing, so now an evo and sti handle better than a boxter s and s2000 too.
I just put up some info on the site of pros riding the cars. I don't think they would lie about the numbers. Despite they putting up better skid pad numbers, it put up good lap times.
Depending on the track, I would agree, we are not in Japan so depending on the tracks here, they are not like Japan.