RX8 Kill
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From: Miami
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
I know plenty about other vehicles, I just don't overestimate the performance of imports like you do. It seems every time I turn around you're ranting and raving about another imports, whether it be an RX7, Evo, STi, ect. Enough already.
A stock Trans Am WS6 has almost 100 more HP than a stock RX-7. Does that not count for anything?? If its an extremely tight road course with hairpin turns and the like than the RX7 would wipe the floor with an F-Body, but I was referring to a track with some wide, sweeping turns and long straights in between, where the LS1's significant power advantage would come into play.
A stock Trans Am WS6 has almost 100 more HP than a stock RX-7. Does that not count for anything?? If its an extremely tight road course with hairpin turns and the like than the RX7 would wipe the floor with an F-Body, but I was referring to a track with some wide, sweeping turns and long straights in between, where the LS1's significant power advantage would come into play.
Acceleration out of a type 1 turn is exponentially linked to a) how early one is able to get on the go pedal after negotiating the apex and b) how much speed is carried through the turn.
Someone who can get on the gas early has an exponentially greater advantage over one who gets on the gas later. There's a threshold where X amount of additional HP won't help you compensate for the difference, and likewise, there's a threshold where X amount of additional HP will compensate, given a later WOT point on the track out.
Saying an RX7 will kill a WS6 (or vise versa) stock for stock on a roadcourse, is childsplay left for internet arguments (myself, guilty).
One could see the successes of both platforms on roadcourses. The 4th gen. Fbod does well now in NASA's American Iron X, where hp helps (Mustangs still win however). The RX7 is a jewel of a car in its own right.
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From: Clarksville, Tn
Ok, I am going to chime in here, I thought the hole point of this threa was that he was driving and some guy in an RX-8 wanted to run, or somehting along that line......Flat out the LS1 won, and the Mazda boy got beat.....I see not a problem other then a bunch of import trolls getting there panties in a bunch cause he said "Ricer piece of Crap"
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
That said, stock for stock , the RX7 is a better package.
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Here's the catch though, the stock RX7 vs. stock WS6 argument goes to the RX7 due to its superior trackability from the factory
On The Tree
Joined: May 2005
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From: Salinas, Ca
Originally Posted by bboyferal
DAMN, thing must be a f*** go-kart around the turns! 
You're an FD enthusiast...
Your opinion on the following question will be ENTIRELY more valid than anyone else's:
What would be your "guesstimation," if you don't already know, on what a stock FD would run at the Thunderhill raceway?
You're an FD enthusiast...
Your opinion on the following question will be ENTIRELY more valid than anyone else's:
What would be your "guesstimation," if you don't already know, on what a stock FD would run at the Thunderhill raceway?
Originally Posted by 00TAProject
Ok, I am going to chime in here, I thought the hole point of this threa was that he was driving and some guy in an RX-8 wanted to run, or somehting along that line......Flat out the LS1 won, and the Mazda boy got beat.....I see not a problem other then a bunch of import trolls getting there panties in a bunch cause he said "Ricer piece of Crap"
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Saying an RX7 will kill a WS6 (or vise versa) stock for stock on a roadcourse, is childsplay left for internet arguments (myself, guilty).
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From: Miami
Originally Posted by bboyferal
Uh-Oh... I'm sorry to be the bearer of your diagnosis: You're a terminable and incurable ranter and raver of imports. Sorry.
Guilty in this case!
Turn key track car, stock, given the choice between the two, I'm walking over to the driver door of the RX7.
I'm an import lover, oh no! Lol.
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Originally Posted by 00TAProject
Ok, I am going to chime in here, I thought the hole point of this threa was that he was driving and some guy in an RX-8 wanted to run, or somehting along that line......Flat out the LS1 won, and the Mazda boy got beat.....I see not a problem other then a bunch of import trolls getting there panties in a bunch cause he said "Ricer piece of Crap"
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
It's all in personal preference.....get over it, swallow your pride....This isnt a debate of Imports and domstics......It was a RACE!!!
please find other threads where i chime in or say things like, "all imports are better than your p.o.s white trash ferrari's!!" my surrounding are amogst pure domestics.
seems like we're not the ones that have to "swallow our pride," when we're not the ones calling your cars "15 year old jap crap" (4 year old american crap would suite it best under these circumstances) or anything in that sort.
people really need to be educated or find out about the car before stating "opinions" that they bring out as "facts."
this thread has progressed from straight line ability to what the RX8 was meant for. sorry if it bothers you.
Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Guilty in this case!
Turn key track car, stock, given the choice between the two, I'm walking over to the driver door of the RX7.
I'm an import lover, oh no! Lol.
Turn key track car, stock, given the choice between the two, I'm walking over to the driver door of the RX7.
I'm an import lover, oh no! Lol.
Originally Posted by rastarajah
import trolls? wow, so now that we don't agree on something that is pro-domestic, we are now considered "import trolls"?
please find other threads where i chime in or say things like, "all imports are better than your p.o.s white trash ferrari's!!" my surrounding are amogst pure domestics.
seems like we're not the ones that have to "swallow our pride," when we're not the ones calling your cars "15 year old jap crap" (4 year old american crap would suite it best under these circumstances) or anything in that sort.
people really need to be educated or find out about the car before stating "opinions" that they bring out as "facts."
this thread has progressed from straight line ability to what the RX8 was meant for. sorry if it bothers you.
please find other threads where i chime in or say things like, "all imports are better than your p.o.s white trash ferrari's!!" my surrounding are amogst pure domestics.
seems like we're not the ones that have to "swallow our pride," when we're not the ones calling your cars "15 year old jap crap" (4 year old american crap would suite it best under these circumstances) or anything in that sort.
people really need to be educated or find out about the car before stating "opinions" that they bring out as "facts."
this thread has progressed from straight line ability to what the RX8 was meant for. sorry if it bothers you.
Import trolls are people who come into every thread and blindly defend imports, even if they don't have a leg to stand on. No matter what, there always an excuse or reason the import lost, and a way to make it win. It gets really ******* old after a while, and thats the reason people like yourself are being called "import trolls". Take a hint
Originally Posted by bboyferal
DAMN, thing must be a f*** go-kart around the turns!
You're an FD enthusiast...
Your opinion on the following question will be ENTIRELY more valid than anyone else's:
What would be your "guesstimation," if you don't already know, on what a stock FD would run at the Thunderhill raceway?
You're an FD enthusiast...
Your opinion on the following question will be ENTIRELY more valid than anyone else's:
What would be your "guesstimation," if you don't already know, on what a stock FD would run at the Thunderhill raceway?
i will get my car up there as soon as possible and find out what i can do, then just deduct some .01's of a sec. and see how a rotary would do
i will have some times and i will bring this thread up from the dead
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
You just proved 00TAProject entirely right. He explained how the thread was about an RX-8 badly losing to an LS1 in a straight line race, and all the import trolls come in start raving about how the "RX8 wasn't meant for stright line, ect, ect, ect" with a multitude of other stupid excuses trying to defend the RX8. The import lost, get over yourself.
Import trolls are people who come into every thread and blindly defend imports, even if they don't have a leg to stand on. No matter what, there always an excuse or reason the import lost, and a way to make it win. It gets really ******* old after a while, and thats the reason people like yourself are being called "import trolls". Take a hint
Import trolls are people who come into every thread and blindly defend imports, even if they don't have a leg to stand on. No matter what, there always an excuse or reason the import lost, and a way to make it win. It gets really ******* old after a while, and thats the reason people like yourself are being called "import trolls". Take a hint
Originally Posted by rastarajah
import trolls? wow, so now that we don't agree on something that is pro-domestic, we are now considered "import trolls"?
please find other threads where i chime in or say things like, "all imports are better than your p.o.s white trash ferrari's!!" my surrounding are amogst pure domestics.
please find other threads where i chime in or say things like, "all imports are better than your p.o.s white trash ferrari's!!" my surrounding are amogst pure domestics.
Originally Posted by rastarajah
i will have some times and i will bring this thread up from the dead
Grave-diggin' occurs here for much less prestigious reasons... I'll look forward to the post.
ANOTHER GOOD USE FOR THIS thread that has nothing to do with the original topic... OH NO, now we're REALLY criminals, rastarajah!
Originally Posted by bboyferal
Grave-diggin' occurs here for much less prestigious reasons... I'll look forward to the post.
ANOTHER GOOD USE FOR THIS thread that has nothing to do with the original topic... OH NO, now we're REALLY criminals, rastarajah!
ANOTHER GOOD USE FOR THIS thread that has nothing to do with the original topic... OH NO, now we're REALLY criminals, rastarajah!
On The Tree
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 133
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From: Salinas, Ca
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
You just proved 00TAProject entirely right. He explained how the thread was about an RX-8 badly losing to an LS1 in a straight line race, and all the import trolls come in start raving about how the "RX8 wasn't meant for stright line, ect, ect, ect" with a multitude of other stupid excuses trying to defend the RX8. The import lost, get over yourself.
Import trolls are people who come into every thread and blindly defend imports, even if they don't have a leg to stand on. No matter what, there always an excuse or reason the import lost, and a way to make it win. It gets really ******* old after a while, and thats the reason people like yourself are being called "import trolls". Take a hint
Import trolls are people who come into every thread and blindly defend imports, even if they don't have a leg to stand on. No matter what, there always an excuse or reason the import lost, and a way to make it win. It gets really ******* old after a while, and thats the reason people like yourself are being called "import trolls". Take a hint
Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
Ok, a little sarcasism? If not, than that f-body just out lapped the boxter s and the s2000. I am not going to say that the rx7 was better than that. From what I gathered, Thunderhill Park in Willows, California is a tough course.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3
edit: and I agree, putting that ls1 in an rx7 would make it damn fast!
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=3
edit: and I agree, putting that ls1 in an rx7 would make it damn fast!
Originally Posted by Domestic Demon
I know plenty about other vehicles, I just don't overestimate the performance of imports like you do. It seems every time I turn around you're ranting and raving about another imports, whether it be an RX7, Evo, STi, ect. Enough already.
A stock Trans Am WS6 has almost 100 more HP than a stock RX-7. Does that not count for anything?? If its an extremely tight road course with hairpin turns and the like than the RX7 would wipe the floor with an F-Body, but I was referring to a track with some wide, sweeping turns and long straights in between, where the LS1's significant power advantage would come into play.
A stock Trans Am WS6 has almost 100 more HP than a stock RX-7. Does that not count for anything?? If its an extremely tight road course with hairpin turns and the like than the RX7 would wipe the floor with an F-Body, but I was referring to a track with some wide, sweeping turns and long straights in between, where the LS1's significant power advantage would come into play.
A stock FD will murder a stock F-body on a road course after about 2-3 laps when the brakes on the F-bod turn to ****. My STI handled amazing, but to be honest my F-bod probably handles better. Then again my F-bod suspension is not stock. I have the Bilstein 1LE shocks with matched Eibach springs, BMr STB, LCA's, Panhard bar, and torque arm all with poly bushings etc.... The only stock pieces are the front control arms which are being changed shortly. I also have aftermarket brakes as well so to compare it to my STI is kind of unfair. Out of the box that thing was ******* insane.
I have driven stock F-bods and they are not exactly impressive. Sure they can carry decent speed through a fast corner but in multiple corners or transitions the car is downright scary especially with the live rear axle on a stock suspension car. I think why most people get butt hurt about imports is all the fan boys that come on and hype up cars they dont even own and act like all american cars cant handle. I love all cars, im a car enthusiast I just hate the import scene due to the retards with no car knowledge and degenerate fan boys. Thats why I left it.
I have driven stock F-bods and they are not exactly impressive. Sure they can carry decent speed through a fast corner but in multiple corners or transitions the car is downright scary especially with the live rear axle on a stock suspension car. I think why most people get butt hurt about imports is all the fan boys that come on and hype up cars they dont even own and act like all american cars cant handle. I love all cars, im a car enthusiast I just hate the import scene due to the retards with no car knowledge and degenerate fan boys. Thats why I left it.