*Video* 02 WS6 Vs A4 LT1
06-18-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Eatinstang4life
Somethings not right because I pulled a small camed full bolt on LT1 camaro when my ws6 was stock.
06-18-2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sick99WS6
Low 14's/high 90s stock. Mine ran 14.1 @ 99.5 stock. After LTs, Borla, and CAI I was running 13.4s @ 105 with crappy 2.73 gears and never managed better than a 2.1 60'. I would beat stock LS1s all the time at the track. Hell, it would be hilarious to be at the track and race the LS1 Vette owner who was all suited up with a helmet (ie. 13.99 or faster) and would see those guys not even dip into the 13's. That was funny. Obviously bad drivers but none the less.
I have yet to take my LS1 to the track and I am kind of interested how she will do. It is MUCH slower than the car I came from. I can tell you that.
I am definitely a proponet of the LT1 and think it is a good engine.
BTW, nice kill man. I like it when the underdog wins.
I have yet to take my LS1 to the track and I am kind of interested how she will do. It is MUCH slower than the car I came from. I can tell you that.
I am definitely a proponet of the LT1 and think it is a good engine.BTW, nice kill man. I like it when the underdog wins.
I very much appreciate your post. Please look into the Cobra Vs GTO Vs LT1 post I made as well. Your imput is needed, lol. 
06-19-2006, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Z 2 8
Mid 13's at best. 
No, I don't have juice...I would have walked away from that car horribly bad if I had that.
I ran at the track a while ago when I still had the flowmaster. I ran an 8.4 in the 1/8 with a not so good 60'. I was thinking with a low 1.9 60', I could run an 8.3. With a 1.8 60' maybe even a little better...Although, I need to go back again because with this dynomax muffler the car seems to keep the topend a little more.
Seriously man, stop being an a$$ to other camaro or trans am owners. It's all the same thing. LS1 to LS1, LT1 to LT1.
By the way, running an 8.4 in the 1/8 is not a mid 13 at best.
Why don't you ask some of the other bolt on LT1 people what they have ran? I know there is someone on here that has run a 12.9 with the same mods as me...So, obviously you don't pay attention to LT1's very much. It's pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about.
No, I don't have juice...I would have walked away from that car horribly bad if I had that. I ran at the track a while ago when I still had the flowmaster. I ran an 8.4 in the 1/8 with a not so good 60'. I was thinking with a low 1.9 60', I could run an 8.3. With a 1.8 60' maybe even a little better...Although, I need to go back again because with this dynomax muffler the car seems to keep the topend a little more.
Seriously man, stop being an a$$ to other camaro or trans am owners. It's all the same thing. LS1 to LS1, LT1 to LT1.
By the way, running an 8.4 in the 1/8 is not a mid 13 at best.
Why don't you ask some of the other bolt on LT1 people what they have ran? I know there is someone on here that has run a 12.9 with the same mods as me...So, obviously you don't pay attention to LT1's very much. It's pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about.
I had a bolt on lt1 and ran 13.2. With that lt1 I owned a number of stock ls1s. I also have had a ls1 trans am. So nobody can say i dont know what im talking about because I had both also. I believe this guy because I have done it and seen it done numerous times.
06-19-2006, 06:53 AM
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well i drove an 02 ls1 m6 trans am for 2 years, i now have an lt1 94 trans am and i can fell very little difference and i have yet to put any mods on it, while the 02 had a lid and exhaust, not extreme or anything but i still dont see hardly any difference.
06-19-2006, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by slowmofo
Congrats, but I am no kid, and you have friends who have them. Thats awsome, so do I. My "Friends" bolt on car ran 12.7's alllllll day long. Funny thing no one belived that his was "Bolt ons" either. But yeah there just slow *** boat anchors, usless garbage compared to LS1's
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06-19-2006, 07:45 AM
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Quit crying you sound like a ricer, all defensive and insecure about your ride,it's sad.
*sigh*
guess I should have got a LS1 like you did so I wouldn't be so insecure about my ride.... Oh well guess I'll cry like a ricer.....
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06-19-2006, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by transambandit
well i drove an 02 ls1 m6 trans am for 2 years, i now have an lt1 94 trans am and i can fell very little difference and i have yet to put any mods on it, while the 02 had a lid and exhaust, not extreme or anything but i still dont see hardly any difference.
I have drove a 95 lt1 with hotcam and full bolt ons, sold it and got my 01 ws6 and could feal a huge , difference I have know idea what you are talking about. It does seem to me though that the lt1 car felt like it had much more "pin you back" on the low end, but my ls1 just keeps on pulling, unlike my lt1.
06-19-2006, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Eatinstang4life
I have drove a 95 lt1 with hotcam and full bolt ons, sold it and got my 01 ws6 and could feal a huge , difference I have know idea what you are talking about. It does seem to me though that the lt1 car felt like it had much more "pin you back" on the low end, but my ls1 just keeps on pulling, unlike my lt1.
06-19-2006, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Eatinstang4life
I have drove a 95 lt1 with hotcam and full bolt ons, sold it and got my 01 ws6 and could feal a huge , difference I have know idea what you are talking about. It does seem to me though that the lt1 car felt like it had much more "pin you back" on the low end, but my ls1 just keeps on pulling, unlike my lt1.
06-19-2006, 11:15 AM
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What did you run with your 95? With full bolt ons and a hotcam, trapping 108 would be about right. Which is no less than you LS1...
06-19-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eatinstang4life
Never ran it but if I had to guess mid 13's. I dont know man I love my lt1 car just as much as my ls1 car just seems like the ls1 power is much more smooth and pulls a lot longer than the lt1.
06-19-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Z 2 8
The LT1 feels a little more beefy
One day, the earth will suddenly stop moving, when the people of this site stop argueing about LS1's and LT1's.
LT1's can and have run low 14's stock, but the 98-99 LS1 A4 2.73 was high 13's.
The major difference, respectively, is the fact that the LS1 " breathes better ". We should all know this ( except for the wannabies, fagats and doushbag posers )
I dont think I need to explain why.
When you have full bolt ons with an LT1, you take away that restrictive crap, like they did on the LT4. Which had a better breathing head, and mainly motor.
It Put out 330 Flywheel Hp.
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So why it surprises people that a bolt on LT1 will run high 12's, low 13's, is beyond me.
For the most part, the only members I see on this site that make intelligent comparisons are the people that have owned both, and they will tell you , power wise, its alot damn closer than what people think.
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And furthermore, why the f*ck are you GTO people running your mouth? You have 350-400 hp 04-06 model cars, that only run with a 93-97 bolt on LT1, and you think thats an admirable advantage?
I need a ciggarette....
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06-19-2006, 08:52 PM
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damn man, you pulled that guy hard. nice kills. fwiw, my stock ls1 ran 14.1 @ 101, but i have a pre-01, automatic, 273, t-top car. the only other thing that could've made me slower was having a 'vert. honestly i would expect more out of an 02 m6 car, 'vert or not. i would guess you to be trapping 84-85 in the 1/8, as you only post et and no trap speed ...which is very respectable for an lt1 with as little done to it as yours, assuming full weight. you would've destroyed my stock ls1, and hell..you might get me now from a roll, who knows? but i do run 7.7x in the 1/8, so i know you wouldn't get me at the track 
nice kills..
...which is very respectable for an lt1 with as little done to it as yours, assuming full weight. you would've destroyed my stock ls1, and hell..you might get me now from a roll, who knows? but i do run 7.7x in the 1/8, so i know you wouldn't get me at the track nice kills..
06-19-2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
damn man, you pulled that guy hard. nice kills. fwiw, my stock ls1 ran 14.1 @ 101, but i have a pre-01, automatic, 273, t-top car. the only other thing that could've made me slower was having a 'vert. honestly i would expect more out of an 02 m6 car, 'vert or not. i would guess you to be trapping 84-85 in the 1/8, as you only post et and no trap speed ...which is very respectable for an lt1 with as little done to it as yours, assuming full weight. you would've destroyed my stock ls1, and hell..you might get me now from a roll, who knows? but i do run 7.7x in the 1/8, so i know you wouldn't get me at the track
nice kills..
...which is very respectable for an lt1 with as little done to it as yours, assuming full weight. you would've destroyed my stock ls1, and hell..you might get me now from a roll, who knows? but i do run 7.7x in the 1/8, so i know you wouldn't get me at the track nice kills..
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06-19-2006, 11:15 PM
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I have owned both a 94 LT-1 camaro 6-speed and the car in my sig. My LT-1 only had shorty headers, (I live in CA) Catted Y, flowfaster, and CAI and on 18" wheels no less. With these mods my car put down 280RWHP and 315RWTQ. I ran neck and neck with every stock to near stock LS1 I raced and even beat a few A4's from a roll. I also went high 13's at 102mph in the 1/4. Sure stock LS1's are supposed to run faster than that but most people aren't good drivers and some cars are just stronger than others. Believe it or not I have seen LS1's run 14s in the 1/4. LT1's are good motors and can make some good power. I miss my old LT1 
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06-19-2006, 11:24 PM
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out of the 4 LS1's at the track saturday, only 1 of them made into the 12's(mind you he laid down 460 RW) other ws6 M6 ran a 13.7@103, and the other 2 auto's ran 14.1-14.3.
some just arent as fast as others.
some just arent as fast as others.
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Wow, I feel all "appreciated" and sheet... 
Just spoutin', because all this in-fighting is making my head hurt (as a matter of fact, most fighting is driving me nuts nowadays).
I knew from the moment I got my LS1 I knew it was more powerfull than my bolt-on LT1, but only above a certain speed. It felt great on the top-end, but my LT1 would take it off the line. Part of that was the 2.73s vs. 3.23s, but the LT1 just had more "grunt", more low-end, more torque.
It's the same feeling I had when I went from my head & cam L98 to the LT1. Less low end, more top end.
I love all my F-bodies and can't wait to get ahold of an LS2 or LS7, so it can make my LS1 feel "more torquey, but with less top-end".
Just spoutin', because all this in-fighting is making my head hurt (as a matter of fact, most fighting is driving me nuts nowadays).
I knew from the moment I got my LS1 I knew it was more powerfull than my bolt-on LT1, but only above a certain speed. It felt great on the top-end, but my LT1 would take it off the line. Part of that was the 2.73s vs. 3.23s, but the LT1 just had more "grunt", more low-end, more torque.
It's the same feeling I had when I went from my head & cam L98 to the LT1. Less low end, more top end.
I love all my F-bodies and can't wait to get ahold of an LS2 or LS7, so it can make my LS1 feel "more torquey, but with less top-end".