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Originally Posted by Blackss99
I assume there are not many stock ls1's left are there?
An M6 LS1 with 4.10's and someone who can move the gears will never be on his kill list.
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Hell yes it will. Depending on whos driving it 
lmao. nah, I built this car to take a bone stock LS1, nothing more, nothing less. That was the ENTIRE plan behind 2 years and 15 thousand dollars of restoration and mods and re-engineering. It looks like I shall have success, or VERY CLOSE to it. It will achieve its goal, and nothing more--or less.
lmao. nah, I built this car to take a bone stock LS1, nothing more, nothing less. That was the ENTIRE plan behind 2 years and 15 thousand dollars of restoration and mods and re-engineering. It looks like I shall have success, or VERY CLOSE to it. It will achieve its goal, and nothing more--or less. 
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Hell yes it will. Depending on whos driving it lmao. nah, I built this car to take a bone stock LS1, nothing more, nothing less. That was the ENTIRE plan behind 2 years and 15 thousand dollars of restoration and mods and re-engineering. It looks like I shall have success, or VERY CLOSE to it. It will achieve its goal, and nothing more--or less.
lmao. nah, I built this car to take a bone stock LS1, nothing more, nothing less. That was the ENTIRE plan behind 2 years and 15 thousand dollars of restoration and mods and re-engineering. It looks like I shall have success, or VERY CLOSE to it. It will achieve its goal, and nothing more--or less.I too also agree that your setup has not been or will not be enough to pull a stock LS1.
In my experience for a Mustang 5.0 to Pull a Stock LS1 it will need aluminum heads, intake, and cam, or Forced induction or NOS anything else just will not work.
If you really want to pull LS1's I would get rid of those GT40p's and get a set of AFR 185's or Trickflow heads (you can find them on the corral for 800.00 used sell your GT40p's to offset the cost) then you will have more than enough power. Good luck with your new carb and get some races going to see where your at.
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Originally Posted by AROD427
15k? damn I have 15k into my mustang its a 408w with an F2 procharger where did all the money go? not to be rude but that's pretty sad that you have that much cash into your car and are only running 14's.
I too also agree that your setup has not been or will not be enough to pull a stock LS1.
In my experience for a Mustang 5.0 to Pull a Stock LS1 it will need aluminum heads, intake, and cam, or Forced induction or NOS anything else just will not work.
If you really want to pull LS1's I would get rid of those GT40p's and get a set of AFR 185's or Trickflow heads (you can find them on the corral for 800.00 used sell your GT40p's to offset the cost) then you will have more than enough power. Good luck with your new carb and get some races going to see where your at.
I too also agree that your setup has not been or will not be enough to pull a stock LS1.
In my experience for a Mustang 5.0 to Pull a Stock LS1 it will need aluminum heads, intake, and cam, or Forced induction or NOS anything else just will not work.
If you really want to pull LS1's I would get rid of those GT40p's and get a set of AFR 185's or Trickflow heads (you can find them on the corral for 800.00 used sell your GT40p's to offset the cost) then you will have more than enough power. Good luck with your new carb and get some races going to see where your at.
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as to 15K, that included paint, body work, new tranny (TKO500) full suspension build almost (only the springs are stock, as are sway bars), etc. etc. the car was pretty much fully restored and every moving part in it replaced. For 2500 I could ahve run 12's, but I wanted a "new" late 80's 5.0 the way it SHOULD have left FoMoCo.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I have killed my LS1 in a clean race. I also know for a fact that unmolested GT40 iron heads will put a 302 in the 10's (read MMFF this month). When I get a carb that both primaries AND secondaries will open on, I should be in the low 13's on a street tire at around 103ish. Right now, I ran 14.4 on only my primaries, imagine if your TB only opened half way when you wooded it...
Just because you have read something does mean every setup is capable of it. I hope you acheive low 13's, but lets be honoest your thought the car ran better with the carb (your own words) and loosing a whole second in ET would be pretty evident to anyone.
As for beating LS1's, you beaten 2 only on the street woopie. Doesn't mean your car is faster than theirs just means you got down the road faster than them on that occasion.
oh BTW I've got a van with 90bhp and beaten a Ferrari away from the traffic lights before, so I guess the van must be capable of 112mph traps in the 1/4
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Sorry Stanger88 but you really are showing your age with this post. As in very young and immature.
Just because you have read something does mean every setup is capable of it. I hope you acheive low 13's, but lets be honoest your thought the car ran better with the carb (your own words) and loosing a whole second in ET would be pretty evident to anyone.
As for beating LS1's, you beaten 2 only on the street woopie. Doesn't mean your car is faster than theirs just means you got down the road faster than them on that occasion.
oh BTW I've got a van with 90bhp and beaten a Ferrari away from the traffic lights before, so I guess the van must be capable of 112mph traps in the 1/4
Just because you have read something does mean every setup is capable of it. I hope you acheive low 13's, but lets be honoest your thought the car ran better with the carb (your own words) and loosing a whole second in ET would be pretty evident to anyone.
As for beating LS1's, you beaten 2 only on the street woopie. Doesn't mean your car is faster than theirs just means you got down the road faster than them on that occasion.
oh BTW I've got a van with 90bhp and beaten a Ferrari away from the traffic lights before, so I guess the van must be capable of 112mph traps in the 1/4
When an owner comes up and says "man, we both got on it at the same time and you clean pulled me" and it was a roll race, I conclude that my car is faster, no trickery, error, grimlin, he lost. Pure and simple. If he was an LS1, im sorry, it is what it is.
I can tell you I feel no surege over 3500 like I used to. I was so damn pumped to drive again after bineg without a car for 2 months that I could ahve been in a damn Yugo and sprained my neck from a redlight. When I get the new carb, then we will see if it was the issue or not.
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PS, WHY!? does my age seem to be such an important thing. If I am not sleeping with your daughter, trying to buy alcohol, tobacco, or other controlled substances from you, WHY is it important? I know maturity USUALLY comes with age, wont deny it, but that is not always the case. I think rather it is more a FORTUNATE case, than a certain one. On that note, I would like to be judged on my merit as a person, not my credibility based on age.
Not sure I am understanding the hostility towards Stanger in this thread, he seems pretty cool to me. Just a guy that's disappointed in his car's performance, asking for help, and not BS'ing about things.
yeah dont know what the deal is with everybody i met the guy at the track when he found out he was having problems, BTW i want to see what it will do now, but i dont think im gonna run mine this time.... one rear end was good enough for me dont want to break the one i got now ..... anyway he was a cool guy and i could tell was really happy to just have his car back on the road ....... im glad you found solution though josh might have to see how the LT1 compares to the stang once you get it ironed out 
..... hopefully by the end of august ill have the cam and head work done on my stock heads to handle the size cam i want to run ... looking forward to seeing it run when you get everything running right
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You trapped 103 almost and were traction limited. IF this carb swap puts me close to where I was EFI it should be a driver's race. I would not mind lining up, but my RT sucks, as you could tell if you saw me or my slip, it was 2-3 seconds as I wasnt even focused on it, just launching. And you saw my sorry *** tires, 2.15 is not bad for my first trip Anywho, sorry I was a bad host but I had to get moving and was only going to make a coupld passes to get a baseline (i am glad I did as it allerted me to an issue)
The reason the car FEELS SO GOOD is because the primaries work just fine (read: i can endlessly burn the tires off hte line) its just the upper rpms that took a dump due to the secondaries. During daily driveing it feels strong as ever, jsut when you really get on it or go over 2500-3000 WOT that you feel things nosing over. And like stated, I was just glad to have a ride and not be bumming them!
Anywho, sorry I was a bad host but I had to get moving and was only going to make a coupld passes to get a baseline (i am glad I did as it allerted me to an issue)The reason the car FEELS SO GOOD is because the primaries work just fine (read: i can endlessly burn the tires off hte line) its just the upper rpms that took a dump due to the secondaries. During daily driveing it feels strong as ever, jsut when you really get on it or go over 2500-3000 WOT that you feel things nosing over. And like stated, I was just glad to have a ride and not be bumming them!
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I have found: 600Holley DP with Pro-Form center section, Billet base plate, Billet metering blocks, fuel log, and a spacer. I will be purchasing in a week or 2 when the owner returns from off-shore. This should solve my issues.
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Originally Posted by LS1 Sounds
Not sure I am understanding the hostility towards Stanger in this thread, he seems pretty cool to me. Just a guy that's disappointed in his car's performance, asking for help, and not BS'ing about things.
I actually like Stanger88 and PM'd him as soon as I heard he was having issues with his setup. I know what it's like, been there done that. Took 4 months or so to trace the issues I was having with my TR7 V8.
All I was trying to point out is ALOT happens on the street and beating 'x' car even when they claim they where on it, is no proof that your car is actually quicker.
I mean lets face it, if we (any of us) loose a race it's so much easier to blame the car instead of accept responsibility that maybe we just didn't drive it well enough.
I really hope Stanger88 gets his ride up and running and that it runs the numbers he expects. But basing you expectations on unfounded statistics/ assuptions will only lead to dissapointment in the end. Which sadly Stanger88 has already found out. So I was trying to help by advising them not to follow the same route again.
300bhp/ton, I wasn't trying to single out anyone's comments in this thread. It's just that a general feeling of hostility comes through while reading some of the replies. This board is better than that, and I wanted to point out what seemed to be occurring.
I agree with sticking with fact-based statements, I try to only use hard data as well and stay away from opinion.
I agree with sticking with fact-based statements, I try to only use hard data as well and stay away from opinion.