SSmokin99

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I believe that true racing is from a dig, but when your on the highway and you see another car worth racing your not going to tell him to do it from a stop. most races are from rolls for this reason, but yea mach 1 and LS1's are a drivers race, but on the highway the LS1 will get em up top

Sprayed1998

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who cares, LS1's can make more power and can be set-up to run just as well as machs on the drag stip, it all depends on the way the car is set-up, some guys run mid 14's in 250hp stangs, some guys make em run 12's. But if your gonna talk **** at least run cars set-up similar to yours. Nobody cares if your 300rwhp mach with a drag suspension launching at 6800rpm on slicks beats a heads cam LS1 on street tires.

Denom

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Yeah, I gotta agree with that assessment. Alot of you Mach1 owners know that the LS1 has alot more power potential. I mean you add a cam, cold air intake, full exhaust (Long Tubes, X Pipe, etc..), throttle body, and most LS1's will see close to 400whp. From what i've seen on Mach1 registry your cars put down like 330-340rwhp. This is just what i've seen.

Knowing that you guys have the superior suspension, you work even more on it. I've seen Mach1 owners numbers on boards, and it's all in their 60'. Some are as low as 1.4 sec. 60'. You guys essentially make a full on drag suspension car, put in a different tranny (Typically, as your cogs blow out from what i've read), slap in some 4.56 gearing, 33 spline axles, and some huge slicks, and whoila, that 300rwhp stang is running low 12's. Nevermind that he has weight reduction, launches his car at 6K rpms, cause it only has 300rwhp. Come on now. That's alot of money invested in the suspension too. Doesn't matter how much you spend on suspension mods, but it does for power mods???????!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not trying to flame, i'm just analyzing the whp versus suspension money allocation. IMHO the car's are equal 1/4 mile wise stock. Don't use the whole whp for a rationale behind why the Mach1 puts its power down better, when you have a full on drag suspension.

dan03mach

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Who cares who makes more power, I know I don't because most of the cars I race do make more power and I still pull them in roll races and dig races.. My main race is at the track though so put some slicks on your ls1's and stop making I can't hook excuses..

dan03mach

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The key word there is "can be set-up" Well then why don't most of them then? Your right no one cares if a 300rwhp mach on slicks beats a h/c ls1 on street tires. I don't.. But bring out the stock motor M6 LS1's and put some slicks on them, then run some of us.. They will still see my tail lights..

dan03mach

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Would you want to bet on that??? IF so come on down to the street car shoot we are having 8/19/06 at the Texas Motorplex in Ennis.. I'll run a 11 sec pass there just for you on my stock N/A motor with just my bolt ons and suspension mods.. If not I'll have my car set up to run the bottle and try to pull a 10 sec. pass out of it then get kicked off the track..

Sprayed1998

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alot of them do, look around these boards. I don't because I like my car to ride nice on the street, I don't want some retarded drag suspension on my striped down street car bouncing up and down the road sqeeking like some rustbucket, I think thats gay.

dan03mach

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That would suck if it did bounce and rattle like that.. Mine rattles some but not too much at all even with all the solid bushings and control arms.. The only time it makes noise is if I hit a big bump in the road.. It actually drives very nice.. The interior takes me 15 minutes to put back in after I get finished from the track so I don't roll around stripped most of the time.. Its full interior right now..

Sprayed1998

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what shocks do you have?

dan03mach

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KYB AGX adjustables very good shocks too..

Sprayed1998

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Yea those are nice. My buds got a 99 cobra with a full tubular suspension with coil overs and whatot and I swear it has got to be the shittiest/noisiest ride ever.

dan03mach

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I haven't put my coilovers or tubular front suspension on yet so I can't commit on that, but the rear suspension in the cobra's are IRS that might make a difference.. I'm putting my front suspension in Monday so after I get it on the road and broke in some I'll let you know how it rides.. I'm going with more of a road race spring since I drive mine on the street alot.. I don't want a soft drag spring and be bouncing around..

Sprayed1998

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he has a solid rear with adjustable uppers and lowers, moser 31 splines and a auburn diff

dan03mach

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Well if he has all solid bushings then I can see it being rough.. But ones you get on it that all goes away.. Mine is fine though for now anyway..

SSmokin99

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Hey dan what bolt ons do you have on your car if you don't mind saying??

COMNBYU

I've said this to a lot of people I know. People with F-bodies go out and spend thousands on HP and 99% have the stock rear. I don't know what it is about the F-body crowd, but it seems like that's the case for almost everyone who owns one.

But that's no reason to rag on the car itself. My LS1 in sig was basically stock and went 12.7's with a shitty 60 and horribly slipping clutch. I could have copycated what you did to your Mach and run with, if not faster, than you. With a clutch, some 4.11's in a 12blt/9", and some basic bolt-on suspension, I could've gone very bottom 12's without ANY bolt-on "power" parts. Add some LT's, intake, basic bolt-ons, tune, etc. and I'd have had solid 11's all day long.


I know what your car runs Dan but it's not as impressive to me as it might seem to these LS1 guys who think it takes 500hp to run 11's, because guys around here have been doing that with Mustangs forever. They're set up better from the start (read: factory) to do that.


I like your car and I think it's a strong runner but you're a typical Mustang guy....you put money where it should go first.

dan03mach

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Full exhaust, CAI, Intake spacer, fully build drivetrain, rear suspension, built rearend 4.10 gears, Tune.. Not too much at all really.. There is a big list I have with all my mods but most don't really matter since they don't add power, just make the car stronger so it won't break..

dan03mach

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Yep, we put what power we have down to the ground first, then worry about building up the motor last..

SSmokin99

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OIC....I've seen a video of your car racing some LS1 camaro and you took him pretty good. By the way I love how the mach1's and cobras look!

Denom

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That's not really good advise, considering how i'm on a stock 10 bolt rearend.

I can hook just fine with my current setup, though I haven't been to the track for over a year now.