378 rwhp auto C5 vrs bone stock 05 NSX
08-09-2006, 01:33 AM
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From my research of the NSX I recall reading that the 90-96 model was a 3.0 liter V6, with power rated at 270hp. They dyno around 240whp( http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328 ). The 97 on up were rated at 290hp, and dynoed around 260whp+ ( http://www.dynospotracing.com/32nsx.htm ). The gearing is sick on them, which makes up for their obvious lack of torque. I still can't see one beating a 370+whp vette. I know gearing plays a factor, but I wouldn't think that much of a factor.
08-09-2006, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CTSVSL65AMG
I have been saying this for months......
I rest my case.
The NSX is NOT SLOW.
Good run!
I rest my case.
The NSX is NOT SLOW.
Good run!
NSX's are amazing performers and breathtakingly fast. Some people are "deer in headlights" torque fiends. As a result they think that the NSX is slow.
Just not the case.
08-09-2006, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
oh for God's sake...
all this sounds like is a case of the 'vette not being in its powerband and the NSX hitting it at 6000 rpm's.
if i mash the gas at 40mph, my 2.73 geared car feels like a damn V6. it DOESN'T MOVE! he was obviously in his sweet spot and you weren't - it's a damn roll race, you can't both be in your sweet spot at the same time! someone is going to have a powerband disadvantage.
race it from a dig and it has no chance in blue hell. NSX's are dogshit slow for the pricetag. an NSX is a ricer's supercar. only honda would make a car that looked like that and stick a V6 in it that has no chance of sounding good and runs with bone stock $25,000 LS1 cars. put it against any other supercar and it's towing a trailer. FWIW, i think the car's ugly, too.
all this sounds like is a case of the 'vette not being in its powerband and the NSX hitting it at 6000 rpm's.
if i mash the gas at 40mph, my 2.73 geared car feels like a damn V6. it DOESN'T MOVE! he was obviously in his sweet spot and you weren't - it's a damn roll race, you can't both be in your sweet spot at the same time! someone is going to have a powerband disadvantage.
race it from a dig and it has no chance in blue hell. NSX's are dogshit slow for the pricetag. an NSX is a ricer's supercar. only honda would make a car that looked like that and stick a V6 in it that has no chance of sounding good and runs with bone stock $25,000 LS1 cars. put it against any other supercar and it's towing a trailer. FWIW, i think the car's ugly, too.
a. You're not very car knowledgeable
b. You think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
Myopia.
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08-09-2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
As a result they think that the NSX is slow.
Cute sig btw.
08-09-2006, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
Unfortunately:
b. You think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
b. You think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
08-09-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by black_knight
I can't believe I'm touching this thread, but someone has to call him on this:
That's 270 FLYwheel horsepower, not 270 REARwheel horsepower. Yes, I know they're factory underrated. Not by that much. The NSX motor is weak, and for a $90,000 car it's a goddam joke. It ought to be f***ing ashamed of itself.
Pffft. $90,000 for 270 hp.
That's 270 FLYwheel horsepower, not 270 REARwheel horsepower. Yes, I know they're factory underrated. Not by that much. The NSX motor is weak, and for a $90,000 car it's a goddam joke. It ought to be f***ing ashamed of itself.
Pffft. $90,000 for 270 hp.
a. ...are not very car knowledgeable
b. ...think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
Late model NSXs are considerably underrated from the factory. And I have, for a fact, seen them dyno 265-270 bone stock. I'm searching my records for substantiation.
08-09-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Car RamRod
It is when we are comparing which one is faster.
"Why would anyone spend 90K on a car with 270 HP."
But that presupposes that said "anyone" bought the 90K car with the vehicle's straight line perfomance as the preeminent consideration.
I guess that some people are more holistic in their car buying purchases.
They must be misguided huh?
08-09-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
The general theme of many posts in here surrounds:
"Why would anyone spend 90K on a car with 270 HP."
But that presupposes that said "anyone" bought the 90K car with the 270 horsepower as a consideration.
Some people are more holistic in their car buying purchases.
I guess they are just misguided huh?
"Why would anyone spend 90K on a car with 270 HP."
But that presupposes that said "anyone" bought the 90K car with the 270 horsepower as a consideration.
Some people are more holistic in their car buying purchases.
I guess they are just misguided huh?
08-09-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Car RamRod
just filter out the bs posts and read the knowledgable ones, it makes pretty much every forum alot better.
Though I am surprised that too many here are ignorant to the performance value of the NSX, I have noticed that a good many here understand that on the roadway they won't be running just GMs--so it may be a good idea to understand what else is out there.
And by "understand," I don't mean retaining the neon-colored frothy liquid oozing from the mouths of the import-hater community.
That is myopia.
08-09-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
b. You think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
Myopia.
Myopia.
08-09-2006, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
b. ...think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
(what exactly would that measure be, oh wise one? Whether it has an "H" on the hood?)
Late model NSXs are considerably underrated from the factory. And I have, for a fact, seen them dyno 265-270 bone stock. I'm searching my records for substantiation.
08-09-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Juror_8
Unfortunately you too:
a. ...are not very car knowledgeable
b. ...think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
Late model NSXs are considerably underrated from the factory. And I have, for a fact, seen them dyno 265-270 bone stock. I'm searching my records for substantiation.
a. ...are not very car knowledgeable
b. ...think that the true measure of any car's value is in how fast it gets from point A to point B.
Late model NSXs are considerably underrated from the factory. And I have, for a fact, seen them dyno 265-270 bone stock. I'm searching my records for substantiation.
Here's the dyno graph. Basically 269.7whp, so we will call it 270whp. Cool.
http://www.dynospotracing.com/32nsx.htm
08-09-2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by black_knight
OMFG, that is the biggest goddam ricer excuse I've ever heard. Oh, yeah, my car is slow, but the true measure of a car is something other than how fast it is.
(what exactly would that measure be, oh wise one? Whether it has an "H" on the hood?)
Okay, go ahead. If they really do dyno 270 stock then I'd like to hear about it. But that's still PATHETIC for $90,000.
(what exactly would that measure be, oh wise one? Whether it has an "H" on the hood?)
Okay, go ahead. If they really do dyno 270 stock then I'd like to hear about it. But that's still PATHETIC for $90,000.
He is just saying that you don't always pay 90K for A to B speed. That price includes great interior, styling, and amazing engineering.
BTW, how many posts does this say I have? <<<< I see 61, but earlier today I had 33.
08-10-2006, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2.73 Vette
Anyone that goes to Hawaii raceway park could verify that I can drive my car...
The bone stock C5Z06's run 13.0 at my track
The bone stock gen 2 Vipers run 12.6 at my track
Bone stock camaros run 13.5 ( the quickest in our F body club) to 13.8 for the 2.73 auto
STI's and EVO's are lucky to hit 13.7-13.9 at the fastest
My car went 12.80 at my track..
This is in Hawaii weather at a track that goes up hill.....So while my 12.8 might seem slow...In comparison to the 03 Cobras running 13.2-13.4 bone stock as well as the other cars I mentioned it's actaually quite fast....
The bone stock C5Z06's run 13.0 at my track
The bone stock gen 2 Vipers run 12.6 at my track
Bone stock camaros run 13.5 ( the quickest in our F body club) to 13.8 for the 2.73 auto
STI's and EVO's are lucky to hit 13.7-13.9 at the fastest
My car went 12.80 at my track..
This is in Hawaii weather at a track that goes up hill.....So while my 12.8 might seem slow...In comparison to the 03 Cobras running 13.2-13.4 bone stock as well as the other cars I mentioned it's actaually quite fast....
