06 BMW M6 vs 06 Z06 VIDEO
09-27-2006, 08:56 AM
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I think the outcome would have been alot closer if it weren't for the passenger.
The tuned M5 is supposedly faster than the Z06 so I cant wait to see the vids.[/QUOTE]
yea but you said you thought it would have been ALOT closer if the passenger was in the zo6. not true, as you could see the passenger would not of made up the 5 cars. the passenger would have had to have been 500lbs to make it somewhat close and still the z06 was in the wrong gear. if he was in 1st, then it still would have been over.
The tuned M5 is supposedly faster than the Z06 so I cant wait to see the vids.[/QUOTE]
yea but you said you thought it would have been ALOT closer if the passenger was in the zo6. not true, as you could see the passenger would not of made up the 5 cars. the passenger would have had to have been 500lbs to make it somewhat close and still the z06 was in the wrong gear. if he was in 1st, then it still would have been over.
09-27-2006, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
You guys are some illiterate dipshits. All I said was to even the score card and put the passenger in the lighter car. Doesnt this make the most since?
09-27-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
You guys are some illiterate dipshits. All I said was to even the score card and put the passenger in the lighter car. Doesnt this make the most since?
No. Why have any passengers?? Putting extra weight in the car is a handicap, which is totally pointless in determining which car is faster.
Just face the facts:
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09-27-2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Fadi
Let me shed some light.
The Z06 raced a lighlty bolt on F430, a tuned M5, M6, and a Gallardo. The Z06 beat each and every single one of them while IN THE WRONG GEAR. The car that gave the Z06 the best fight was the F430, it lost by about 1.5 car, but the Z06 was still pulling when it shut down. Had the F430 been stock, and had the Z06 driver been in the right gear or racing from a higher roll, the Z06 would have been not just 1.5 car ahead of the F430 and pulling, but like 3 cars ahead and pulling.
The Z06 is really something else!! I don't think it can be beat by any stock car under 300K.
The Z06 raced a lighlty bolt on F430, a tuned M5, M6, and a Gallardo. The Z06 beat each and every single one of them while IN THE WRONG GEAR. The car that gave the Z06 the best fight was the F430, it lost by about 1.5 car, but the Z06 was still pulling when it shut down. Had the F430 been stock, and had the Z06 driver been in the right gear or racing from a higher roll, the Z06 would have been not just 1.5 car ahead of the F430 and pulling, but like 3 cars ahead and pulling.
The Z06 is really something else!! I don't think it can be beat by any stock car under 300K.
09-27-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Dude you're incredible.....What a troll I say! All you can do is bring up BULLSHIT points with no vaild ANYTHING and yet you still haven't been banned yet? What useful information do you bring to this board aside from your negativity and trash spewing out of your mouth? Weight hardly mattered in that race. THE M6 ISNT EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS THE Z06! That z06 put CORNFIELDS on that M6. So a tunned M5 is supposedly faster than a z06 huh ? So WHY NOT tune a z06 then too? Because it will get its *** HANDED TO IT ON A SILVER PLATTER. Now take your bullshit, moot arguement and shove it up your *** you ******* TROLL.
Edit- And if you pulled your head out of your *** and read the BMW forums link you posted, you'd know that the z06 started in 2nd gear @ 30mph(50km/h)....2nd gear @ 30mph = 2500rpms.... WAY OUT of the powerband when 1st goes all the way to 60mph.
Edit- And if you pulled your head out of your *** and read the BMW forums link you posted, you'd know that the z06 started in 2nd gear @ 30mph(50km/h)....2nd gear @ 30mph = 2500rpms.... WAY OUT of the powerband when 1st goes all the way to 60mph.
Amen!.....good point
09-27-2006, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
You guys are some illiterate dipshits. All I said was to even the score card and put the passenger in the lighter car. Doesnt this make the most since?
The Z06 would still run away from the M6, so what difference does it make with a passenger, the outcome would be the same....Z06 by a buslength...
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09-27-2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
You guys are some illiterate dipshits. All I said was to even the score card and put the passenger in the lighter car. Doesnt this make the most since?
No, it doesn't make any sense, just like you.
You could also add a sumo wrestler in the passenger seat, trailer with a car, and a few blocks of concrete in the trunk of the Z too, to what end? "Making things even" would be just that, making the cars run even. I think what you were wanting to know is which one is faster. In that case, you put a driver in each car and drive them.
Adding/subtracting weight and changing parts are modifications. The Z is lighter becuase that's the way it came from the factory. If you want to know which is faster then you just drive them, period.
Instead of trying to add weight to the Z why don't you call up BMW and ask them to drop about 3,000lbs off that house on wheels.
09-27-2006, 12:15 PM
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If you think an M6 has a chance against a C6 Z06 you are sadly mistaken. Look at it entirely from a physics standpoint.
I will do this calulation assuming a 15% loss through drive train and ignoring Air Resistance
First
By Newtons Second Law Force = Mass * Acceleration
therefore
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 vital stats
Work = 520 Newton Meters(383 ft-lbs)
Mass = 1710 kg
Tire radius = .341 meters
Force at the wheels = (520*.85)/(.341) = 1296.2 Newtons(at peak Torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.62
Total Force at the wheels in 1:1 = 1296.2*3.62 =4692.2 Newtons
Z06
Work = 657 Nm
Mass = 1442 kg
Tire Radius = .339 meters
Force available at the wheels (657*.85) /(.339)= 1647.3 Newtons(at peak torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.42
Total force in 4th gear at the wheels = 3.42*1647.3 = 5633.9 Newtons
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 = 4692.2 Newtons/ 1710kg = 2.744 Meters/Second/Second
Z06 = 5633.9 Newtons/1442kg = 3.907 Meters/Second/Second
At Peak in 1:1 the Z06 pulls .399g's where the M6 only pulls .28gs so the Z06 pulls over .1 g's harder than the M6 in 1:1 which is a fairly significant amount at these speeds.
I will do this calulation assuming a 15% loss through drive train and ignoring Air Resistance
First
By Newtons Second Law Force = Mass * Acceleration
therefore
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 vital stats
Work = 520 Newton Meters(383 ft-lbs)
Mass = 1710 kg
Tire radius = .341 meters
Force at the wheels = (520*.85)/(.341) = 1296.2 Newtons(at peak Torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.62
Total Force at the wheels in 1:1 = 1296.2*3.62 =4692.2 Newtons
Z06
Work = 657 Nm
Mass = 1442 kg
Tire Radius = .339 meters
Force available at the wheels (657*.85) /(.339)= 1647.3 Newtons(at peak torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.42
Total force in 4th gear at the wheels = 3.42*1647.3 = 5633.9 Newtons
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 = 4692.2 Newtons/ 1710kg = 2.744 Meters/Second/Second
Z06 = 5633.9 Newtons/1442kg = 3.907 Meters/Second/Second
At Peak in 1:1 the Z06 pulls .399g's where the M6 only pulls .28gs so the Z06 pulls over .1 g's harder than the M6 in 1:1 which is a fairly significant amount at these speeds.
09-27-2006, 03:08 PM
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I think we all know which car is the faster of the two......ZO6 by a longshot!!
The M6 is a great all around GT type car, whereas the ZO6 is pretty much a race car for the street.
Don't let this guy get under everyone's skin, as that is what he is obviously trying to do.
The M6 is a great all around GT type car, whereas the ZO6 is pretty much a race car for the street.
Don't let this guy get under everyone's skin, as that is what he is obviously trying to do.
09-27-2006, 03:31 PM
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Hahaha VERY TRUE.... He's just an ignorant ricer!! He TRIES to post videos of domestic cars gettin beat by imports to make his self feel better. lol how ignorant can he be to think that a passenger would make up 5 buslenghts 
AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT
AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT
09-27-2006, 03:32 PM
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Hahaha VERY TRUE.... He's just an ignorant ricer!! He TRIES to post videos of domestic cars gettin beat by imports to make his self feel better. lol how ignorant can he be to think that a passenger would make up 5 buslenghts AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT pull you're head outta my ***
AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT pull you're head outta my ***
09-27-2006, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cgillies86
If you think an M6 has a chance against a C6 Z06 you are sadly mistaken. Look at it entirely from a physics standpoint.
I will do this calulation assuming a 15% loss through drive train and ignoring Air Resistance
First
By Newtons Second Law Force = Mass * Acceleration
therefore
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 vital stats
Work = 520 Newton Meters(383 ft-lbs)
Mass = 1710 kg
Tire radius = .341 meters
Force at the wheels = (520*.85)/(.341) = 1296.2 Newtons(at peak Torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.62
Total Force at the wheels in 1:1 = 1296.2*3.62 =4692.2 Newtons
Z06
Work = 657 Nm
Mass = 1442 kg
Tire Radius = .339 meters
Force available at the wheels (657*.85) /(.339)= 1647.3 Newtons(at peak torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.42
Total force in 4th gear at the wheels = 3.42*1647.3 = 5633.9 Newtons
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 = 4692.2 Newtons/ 1710kg = 2.744 Meters/Second/Second
Z06 = 5633.9 Newtons/1442kg = 3.907 Meters/Second/Second
At Peak in 1:1 the Z06 pulls .399g's where the M6 only pulls .28gs so the Z06 pulls over .1 g's harder than the M6 in 1:1 which is a fairly significant amount at these speeds.
I will do this calulation assuming a 15% loss through drive train and ignoring Air Resistance
First
By Newtons Second Law Force = Mass * Acceleration
therefore
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 vital stats
Work = 520 Newton Meters(383 ft-lbs)
Mass = 1710 kg
Tire radius = .341 meters
Force at the wheels = (520*.85)/(.341) = 1296.2 Newtons(at peak Torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.62
Total Force at the wheels in 1:1 = 1296.2*3.62 =4692.2 Newtons
Z06
Work = 657 Nm
Mass = 1442 kg
Tire Radius = .339 meters
Force available at the wheels (657*.85) /(.339)= 1647.3 Newtons(at peak torque)
Final Drive Ratio 3.42
Total force in 4th gear at the wheels = 3.42*1647.3 = 5633.9 Newtons
Acceleration = Force/Mass
M6 = 4692.2 Newtons/ 1710kg = 2.744 Meters/Second/Second
Z06 = 5633.9 Newtons/1442kg = 3.907 Meters/Second/Second
At Peak in 1:1 the Z06 pulls .399g's where the M6 only pulls .28gs so the Z06 pulls over .1 g's harder than the M6 in 1:1 which is a fairly significant amount at these speeds.
Got em' Coach
09-27-2006, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BaDaSS
Hahaha VERY TRUE.... He's just an ignorant ricer!! He TRIES to post videos of domestic cars gettin beat by imports to make his self feel better. lol how ignorant can he be to think that a passenger would make up 5 buslenghts AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT pull you're head outta my ***
AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT pull you're head outta my ***makes you no better than the next guy and it'll get you a one way
ticket out of here.
09-27-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
You guys are REAL sensitive about the new ZO6. Damn.
Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
But yea, that was a pretty easy victory.
09-28-2006, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by unit213
Name calling and posting your opinion in a bashing-type manner
makes you no better than the next guy and it'll get you a one way
ticket out of here.
makes you no better than the next guy and it'll get you a one way
ticket out of here.
09-28-2006, 02:42 AM
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Weight doesn't matter near as much at the speeds that vette was yanking him. Not to mention he started in 2nd gear.. which is sorta silly in itself.
Peace,
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Peace,
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09-28-2006, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
No offense to you Unit, but if you're going to preach that "one way ticket" then why hasn't 25psi been banned yet? He is nothing more than a troll that stirs **** up CONSTANTLY! He brings nothing but bullshit, ricer excuses and garbage to what you call "One of, if not the best kill section on the net". HE talks all kinds of **** to people, making crude comments ETC. So again, if you're gonna preach like that bro, then handle 25psi first. Then go after the small fries.
