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Old 09-28-2006, 10:29 AM
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That was not even close man. The passenger taken out of the M6 wouldnt have made much of a difference. He pulled a solid 5+ cars on him.
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Word... it was just a constant steady pull. Regardless, the M6 looks to be a pretty quick car tho... not what I'd spend the money on, but that's moot. Nice vid.

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Originally Posted by 1BaDaSS
Hahaha VERY TRUE.... He's just an ignorant ricer!! He TRIES to post videos of domestic cars gettin beat by imports to make his self feel better. lol how ignorant can he be to think that a passenger would make up 5 buslenghts AND the zo6 was in secong gear at 30mph lol YOU'RE A DUMBSHIT
Reading this I felt compelled to reply. I am in NO way defending the guy that posted this thread as apparently he doesn't have a clue about these two very different cars. But apparently you don't either. First a European car that puts out over 100 HP per liter N/A can hardly be described as a ricer. It was built to be the ultimate grand touring car and comes very close to that goal. The Vette was built to be the ultimate track car again it comes very close to being that and bang for the buck is undisputed as the cars that can outrun it cost a LOT more. These cars a as similar as apples and oranges. The Vette is a Sports car the BMW a Grand Touring car. Two different approaches to building fast cars with two very different missions. Let the Ricer comments stick to cars and people that deserve this title, 25psi does. BTW I have owned several F-Bodies and BMW's and 1 Vette all are great cars for their target audiance and performance of all of them exceeds most people's expectations.

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By no means am I trying to defend the BMW. This is not what I am trying to advocate to you guys! What my version of the video is, a Grand Touring car weighing in at 2 tons, needs not an extra passenger when already being handicaped. Take it as you will, I say let the camara man be in the Vette next time
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25psi - So I take it you are not going to answer any of my questions then?
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Originally Posted by 25psi
By no means am I trying to defend the BMW. This is not what I am trying to advocate to you guys! What my version of the video is, a Grand Touring car weighing in at 2 tons, needs not an extra passenger when already being handicaped. Take it as you will, I say let the camara man be in the Vette next time

Wont matter...and how is it handicapped? weight? Thats BMW's fault for making it so heavy...and if your going to play ricer games then the vette is handicapped because it has 2 less cylinders...
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
25psi - So I take it you are not going to answer any of my questions then?
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This is the answer you'll probably get. You need no more evidence than a sig to prove you have a fast car on the internet. No dyno charts, no time slips and no pics...

In that case I have a Bugatti Veyron that wasn't quite fast enough so I jacked the boost up to 80 PSI and now it does the quarter in 4.02 seconds at 390 MPH (traction was a problem ).
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^^^^^^
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For any that missed it - YES I'm from England. And YES I have a LS1.

A bit off topic.

I'd hate to have to pay what you do for gas over there. I lived in Germany for 9 years and luckily I could get gas on base. Its ridiculous what Europeans have to pay to drive their cars. Insurance isn't much better. We Americans are spoiled when it comes to those items.
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25PSI is more full of **** than a public restroom

How can you say a car has a handicap when its stock from the factory?? Thats just plain stupid.
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Its like throwing raw meat into a cage of hungry dogs. Jessu people take this seriously. Im waiting to read the first death threat from someone. Good reading.
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Just watched the video, that wasnt even remotly close. But anybody who thought it would be is a dumbass anyway, lol.
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I betcha it might have been close if the z06 was hauling a smaller trailer with a charcoal BBQ. sorry i couldnt resist. Someone mentioned hauling a trailer, and I remember the camaro racing with the trailer and BBQ
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I've seen it! Now THAT was a good vid!
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Originally Posted by buffman
I betcha it might have been close if the z06 was hauling a smaller trailer with a charcoal BBQ. sorry i couldnt resist. Someone mentioned hauling a trailer, and I remember the camaro racing with the trailer and BBQ

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BBQ racing camaro

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/8...4b0000dc28.htm
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Originally Posted by 2001ramairconv
For any that missed it - YES I'm from England. And YES I have a LS1.

A bit off topic.

I'd hate to have to pay what you do for gas over there. I lived in Germany for 9 years and luckily I could get gas on base. Its ridiculous what Europeans have to pay to drive their cars. Insurance isn't much better. We Americans are spoiled when it comes to those items.
Lol, yeah it sucks. Prices have dropped a bit on fuel we where paying around £1/litre, think it works out at over $7 per US gallon.

Thinks aren't all bad though.
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I wish I still had my camaro as my buddy has a 350z meeting again this weekend and Id love tog o there and just make a bunch of vids whooping on bolt on 350z's and the 350z with the twin turbo kit that pushes like 5 psi...like I dont get his posts, I dont mind seeing two fast cars race and if the faster car happens to be a 350z, mr2, evo, etc then props to them, but he loves just posting vids of any lsx car getting beat or having a close race and saying "lsx" cars arent that fast, torque doesnt matter, weight doesnt matter, you have an advantage you have 2 more cyliners, imports handel better than all domestics, chevys suck, roll racing is real racing, the world is flat, gravity doesnt exist, etc...
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Originally Posted by 25psi
By no means am I trying to defend the BMW. This is not what I am trying to advocate to you guys! What my version of the video is, a Grand Touring car weighing in at 2 tons, needs not an extra passenger when already being handicaped. Take it as you will, I say let the camara man be in the Vette next time
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Originally Posted by 25psi
I think they need to put the passenger in the vette to even out the weight somewhat!
As you know, 3132lb on the C6 Z06, and a little over 3900lb for the M6. The passenger would have to weigh quite a bit to stay even or gain on the Z06. The M6 is a lot of *** to haul as it is. My point: swapping the passenger out/into the Z06 will make very little difference.

And some choice quotes from the forum you posted:

Originally Posted by bmwnumbnuts
Such a shame (and shocking) that American engineering could whip the 6'er so badly.
This statement is ricier than driving up to a Korean teriyaki shop in a Hyundai Tiburon.

Originally Posted by catdogfker
Uuuh, i think this just goes to show you how good the M6/M5 really is; the M6 had two people in it, that's about 160-180 lbs of disadvantage right there and frankly i had expected the Z06 to immediately disappear into the distance, which it really did not, instead pulled gently ahead. How about repeating it with only 1 person in M6 and two in Z06?
Yes, because the M6 is such a dog. Not. The Z06 is an incredibly fast car, but when comparing it to cars in its league (vs. in its price range and below, IE most cars), it's not just going to "disappear into the distance". I got a better idea, how about we put ten people in the Z06 just to make it even. And then, we'll axe off two cylinders on the M6's V10. WTF?

Originally Posted by Wolverine
I'd like to see another race with 2 people in each car. Or, if you only have three people, put two in the vette and one in the M6. Having an extra person is like taking 20 hp away!
Obviously these guys are hung over that extra passenger thing. If they actually cared about a fair race vs. trying to find a way to beat the Z06, they'd suggest something else. Like a chaser car. I'm sure those rich guys who can afford fine German engineering () have a few M6s laying around.

Originally Posted by dumbasswithanm5
did you try with launch control .. yeah and really not fair to see 3 ppl on m6 !!! and 1 in z06 that makes a difference for sure
Now the M6 has three people OMGS@!#@

Originally Posted by andrewsherman
We don't seem to be taking our defeat very graciously. I think most of us expected the Z06 to be quicker. Remember, differen tools for different jobs. The fact that the M6 has so many advantages over the Vette (room, luxury, interior quality, etc.), I think it says alot that the M6 was this close.
True, it really doesn't sound like they are. As for the different tools thing.. I don't remember "room, luxury, interior quality" being advantages in a race.

And of course, the Z06 starting in 2nd gear thing was brought up by people who also scanned the forum.
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