all those mods and only trappin 104...

 

Yeah but as with all these high stock dyno numbers they are always bollox when you really look at them.

STD correction, no graph smoothing and on a Dynojet. I've never seen a 'real' dyno of a stock Ls1 making 330rwhp. And I'm willing to bet there's no s197 making 280rwhp in stock trim either.

 

true, and i didnt know we were dyno racing..

 

well since no one really has said anything...... bigthree is a ******* *** JOCKEY.

 

My only point was that there are some S197s out there making 300rwhp with a tune. That's all. I guess I wanted to present some facts. I've never seen a stock LS1 put down 330 whp, but maybe there is proof of one out there somewhere.

With all that said, I won't argue that an LS1 does not have the stock edge, but neither will I argue that it's impossible a well tuned S197 may have taken down an LS1 on the street. Not talking , just trying to keep things real.

 

Nice, yea again wasnt saying it cant happen, just the dyno days ive seen aorund here most of the new Gt's stock put down anywhere from 250-260 rwhp or so, thats a damn strong gt though in that vid!

 

Exactly my thought. a dyno is a tuning tool, its at the track that matters and these mustangs are slow. we only have an 1/8 mile track buth the mustangs are in the 9s. my stock A4 with 2.73 ran 8.6 .

 

Aren't we always....

 

So smoke, you seem to have a real anti-mustang attitude. What's the B.S. flag for?

 

I guess he is calling bullshit on his own 1/8 miles times?

 

hey guys, i left off another detail about the runs. well, what happened was that for both runs, they EVEN video taped it... then, when i asked them for the video, they said it didnt come out right

my guess is, that the zoom button didnt work on their camera..

 

so your saying you roasted (by 6 lengths) an 05 gt mustang with minor bolts with a c5 with 2 bolt mods, in which you dyno close to what he dynos??????????




hahahhahaha hell yeah good kill damn rustangs and thier cool looking cars.

 

even if i had 25000 dollers and still got to keep my camaro i would never get a new mustang, but add some mcdonalds and im sold

 

hah I think so.
Mustangs are pretty low on the list of cars to talk **** about in the 1/8 mile.
Whatever, we are seeing the worst of both sides in this thread.

 

Exactly from my experiences they run very well in the 1/8 due to their gearing and will be right on par with a stock ls1, but after the 1/8th the hp levels of the ls1 comes through and the ls1 powered vehicle will nail a slightly quicker ET and . If manual 05+ gt's are trapping 9's in the 1/8th then those are some pretty shitty drivers or one tough 1/8 mile track.

 

I'm kinda confused about the LS1 vs the new mustang thing that is being talked about because the LS1 C5's are supposed to be faster than the LS1 F-Body cars.... with that said a good C5 driver should be able to get into the 12's for the mear fact compared to my F-body a C5 has alot better suspension and weighs less and should put down more power from better intake and exhaust setups. I don't want to bench race but my stock LS1 F-body is right at par with bolt on 05-up mustangs but a bolt-on C5 should smoke the new mustangs. I guess the real world is different.

I have a real good friend that just bought a 2000 C5 A4 and he dyno'd his car on the dynodynamics that mine put 279 down on and his put down 310. So the Corvettes do have more HP stock out of the box.... and I don't see a lighter weight car with more HP to get beat by a heavier mustang with a good 20-40 whp less. Just my thoughts.

Then again in all honesty HP matters but only to a certain extent.... my 181 fwhp Integra runs consistant 13.3's so dyno numbers arent everything.

 

nice integra.. pretty damn solid times!!!!!! i wouldnt mind one of those... but does urs have a coffee can exhaust tip ?

 

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Just playing with you man.

 

I don't think one or two dyno's is 'proof'. They are tools to test and adjust things, and to give you an 'idea' for power. They will vary all over for different reasons. I agree that with a few bolt ons and a tune the S197s can have some nice power. One thing I noticed in that dyno info you posted (04terminator), is not only was there a tune, but there was 93 Octane used. I am sure we can all bet that the tune was set for the higher octane instead of the stock 87 rated. That will help a little. The fact that Big three is saying that it is not uncommon for S197s to put down 300 or 300+ with minimum changes is what makes me laugh. Not to mention he thinks a S197 is 'up to par' with an LS. SOLEY on his 2 different races..that is PURELY ignorance.

BTW - i test drove an S197 today. I ahve been thinking abotu getting a new '07 GT/CS as my new DD. I would just hate having a car slower than my wife...HA HA!

 

Hmm thats kinda weird as the IRS in the C5 usually eats more power on the dyno than the 10-bolt in the f-body...im guessing though that the ls6 intake and better flowing exhaust made up the difference?