Why Honda owners get butthurt on the internet
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Originally Posted by HTX
I love my F-Body but my Honda had its advantages. First of all the handling was a hell of a lot better. I cant haul *** around the turns on the country roads anymore. Everytime I try my rear end wants to slide around. And second it was just a nicer car. looked better, more comfortable, and smoother ride. It was a really nice car and I had fun with it. But it just wasnt fast enough. I had to almost relearn how do drive when I traded for my Ls1. lol. A 200hp fwd is a lot different than a 300 hp rwd. I thought I would mis my Honda but I dont. I love my Ls1 and I dont ever want to go back.
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The post is true. Ricers seem to be bred from bits and pieces of knowledge that have proliferated from actual pro import tuners. The hype from the F&F series of movies and loads of compact tuner mags only aggravate the problem.
When some 500hp Civic whoops on a Camaro, everyone thinks that a Civic can EASILY be faster than said Camaro. They don't realize that in general, a Civic burning a Camaro is an EXCEPTION, not the RULE. When it comes to racing, especially on the street, the Camaro has almost every advantage except their "nicer interior" or something just as worthless.. a moot point while in the pursuit of power.
Another problem is the endurance of 80s and 90s stereotypes regarding domestics. I remember the topic of "feedback" was discussed before, I don't think it was here though. The theory was that popular opinion, even those expressed in magazines such as Consumer Reports, is regurgitated by word-of-mouth. Kids these days are recycling their parents' and grandparents' stereotypes. What kinda people provide opinions to CR? The same people who are subscribed. Who subscribes to CR? The same people who take everything they publish as the gospel.
It's a war that can't even be won on the street. As long as we're winning, I don't care what anyone says.
When some 500hp Civic whoops on a Camaro, everyone thinks that a Civic can EASILY be faster than said Camaro. They don't realize that in general, a Civic burning a Camaro is an EXCEPTION, not the RULE. When it comes to racing, especially on the street, the Camaro has almost every advantage except their "nicer interior" or something just as worthless.. a moot point while in the pursuit of power.
Another problem is the endurance of 80s and 90s stereotypes regarding domestics. I remember the topic of "feedback" was discussed before, I don't think it was here though. The theory was that popular opinion, even those expressed in magazines such as Consumer Reports, is regurgitated by word-of-mouth. Kids these days are recycling their parents' and grandparents' stereotypes. What kinda people provide opinions to CR? The same people who are subscribed. Who subscribes to CR? The same people who take everything they publish as the gospel.
It's a war that can't even be won on the street. As long as we're winning, I don't care what anyone says.
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Originally Posted by HTX
Hey man do you know that some of those import guys can get thier car under 2400 lbs? compared to that 3500 lbs is pretty heavy.
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Originally Posted by NightWindDriftr
Another problem is the endurance of 80s and 90s stereotypes regarding domestics
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Yeah that whole domestic quality sucks thing is such crap. Maybe it used to be worse but in this day in age almost all cars have good build quality. my boss said he would never buy an american car again, he had an audi A4 1.8T. I was able to convince him to go to a chevy dealership when his lease was up and he ended up buying an 06 monte ss. His words, the monte is faster, rides better, nicer interior, and all around a better car. He completely loves the car and to top it off he pays 300 a month as opposed to the 425 for the audi.
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i had some honda guys try to race me once! i gave them alot of cars head start and after putting ALOT MORE cars on them,the driver told me my car was sad because he kept up with me
. yeah,his mid-14 sec car kept up with a low-10 sec car???? i guess if your still in the same area code,to the honda driver it's keeping up.
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im gonna get flamed for this but here goes...
98.9% fo those dumbshit idiot teens with civics are ******* retards and dont know the first damnt hing about a car. they think OH! a spoiler more downforce! 50hp there. oh! a bodykit, more aerodynamic, somehow it adds hp also. and ahh the beloved fart pipe. bigger is better right?! wow! i bet this added 40 hp!
98.9% fo those dumbshit idiot teens with civics are ******* retards and dont know the first damnt hing about a car. they think OH! a spoiler more downforce! 50hp there. oh! a bodykit, more aerodynamic, somehow it adds hp also. and ahh the beloved fart pipe. bigger is better right?! wow! i bet this added 40 hp!
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Originally Posted by mike c.
i had some honda guys try to race me once! i gave them alot of cars head start and after putting ALOT MORE cars on them,the driver told me my car was sad because he kept up with me
. yeah,his mid-14 sec car kept up with a low-10 sec car???? i guess if your still in the same area code,to the honda driver it's keeping up.![Driving](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_driving3.gif)
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Originally Posted by Tainted
im gonna get flamed for this but here goes...
98.9% fo those dumbshit idiot teens with civics are ******* retards and dont know the first damnt hing about a car. they think OH! a spoiler more downforce! 50hp there. oh! a bodykit, more aerodynamic, somehow it adds hp also. and ahh the beloved fart pipe. bigger is better right?! wow! i bet this added 40 hp!
98.9% fo those dumbshit idiot teens with civics are ******* retards and dont know the first damnt hing about a car. they think OH! a spoiler more downforce! 50hp there. oh! a bodykit, more aerodynamic, somehow it adds hp also. and ahh the beloved fart pipe. bigger is better right?! wow! i bet this added 40 hp!
I was fooled because this lime green del sol had a spoiler on top of a spoiler, I figured he was a big money player and just cowared when he asked to race.
If you don't see the sarcasm, then you will also think I want you to live
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I know i'm in a VERY small group of "fast" civics, and even smaller one here.
I still wonder where the kill is?
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im goin to have to agree with the dude who posted this that the ricers really dont have that great of knowledge of cars and have seen too many movies . i still think they are retarded. But i feel if they took the time to listen to what real people who actually have decently fast cars say about performance i think they would change their minds. its just the crowd they hang around and the movies they see that makes them think they are hot **** peer pressure is a bitch
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Originally Posted by Ace$nyper
I was fooled because this lime green del sol had a spoiler on top of a spoiler, I figured he was a big money player and just cowared when he asked to race.
If you don't see the sarcasm, then you will also think I want you to live![Tongue](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_tongue.gif)
I know i'm in a VERY small group of "fast" civics, and even smaller one here.
I still wonder where the kill is?
If you don't see the sarcasm, then you will also think I want you to live
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I know i'm in a VERY small group of "fast" civics, and even smaller one here.
I still wonder where the kill is?
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Originally Posted by Camaro02DK
well I am well aware of that my camaro has no problems with any honda I have met..... always been big kills
My DD is a Saab 9-5 Aero with some upgrades, doing apx. 270hp and it really runs good for a 4 banger with a turbo.... don't know if any of you guys ever been beating on one, but then acceleration is good. More and more I like racing Honda's more in that then the Camaro... I gotta work for it....
My DD is a Saab 9-5 Aero with some upgrades, doing apx. 270hp and it really runs good for a 4 banger with a turbo.... don't know if any of you guys ever been beating on one, but then acceleration is good. More and more I like racing Honda's more in that then the Camaro... I gotta work for it....
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To the original poster too funny. It's so true to.
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Originally Posted by HTX
...And second it was just a nicer car. looked better, more comfortable, and smoother ride.
It's probably full of mostly stock Hondas.
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I had some guy the other day from the store next to mine, ask how fast is your car to 60 about 7secs? i was like wtf! no more like 5.2! he was like really i thought with all that weight it wouldn't be that quick!
Now it makes sence why all the little hot hatches keep trying to race me, when i'm at a light just idling you can't really hear the exaust till you get on it & knowing that most fucktards here don't know **** about American V8s apart from what the media eg Top gear tell them, that they can't handle are heavy & can't go round corners! they think it's gonna be slow because of it's size, or maybe it's just a sports car and i've put the duel exausts on myself to make it look fast, did they even look at the size of my fuukin tires, they've got got till the light turns green to find out!
Now it makes sence why all the little hot hatches keep trying to race me, when i'm at a light just idling you can't really hear the exaust till you get on it & knowing that most fucktards here don't know **** about American V8s apart from what the media eg Top gear tell them, that they can't handle are heavy & can't go round corners! they think it's gonna be slow because of it's size, or maybe it's just a sports car and i've put the duel exausts on myself to make it look fast, did they even look at the size of my fuukin tires, they've got got till the light turns green to find out!
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Thats why i really never race ricers, they somehow can claim a victory of sorts after losign miserably, kinda like the Democrats. ![Engarde](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/engarde.gif)
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Originally Posted by HTX
I love my F-Body but my Honda had its advantages. First of all the handling was a hell of a lot better. I cant haul *** around the turns on the country roads anymore. Everytime I try my rear end wants to slide around. And second it was just a nicer car. looked better, more comfortable, and smoother ride. It was a really nice car and I had fun with it. But it just wasnt fast enough. I had to almost relearn how do drive when I traded for my Ls1. lol. A 200hp fwd is a lot different than a 300 hp rwd. I thought I would mis my Honda but I dont. I love my Ls1 and I dont ever want to go back.
get yourself a set of ZO6 rims and some 275/40/17 hankook ventus H405 tires. that's what i have and it handles amazingly well. it's even great in the rain. these tires are absolutely phenominal. they're H-rated so they're only safe to 130 mph, but they grip very well on dry road, are incredible in the rain, have a ton of tread and look great. i love them. yes, they're a little expensive (~$450 a set, not too bad but not cheap either), but sitting on top of 17" ZO6 wheels it's some of the best all-weather handling i've experienced. soooo much better than my old V6 firebird.
i may step up and try their Sport K104's next time. they seem to be rated very highly.
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