350z 15psi vs 06 viper VIDEO
#101
Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
Look at the post below yours. Very good example of long lasting LS1 with 200 shot. He's raced his car against anything he possibly could and it's still running strong!!!
But I do agree with you about traction. 12 bolt and set of DR's will solve those traction issues
But I do agree with you about traction. 12 bolt and set of DR's will solve those traction issues
We sprayed the ever living hell out of the car! its seen a couple 350hits to race some bikes...
This was all done on a stock rear end, granted the car was auto if it was 6speed the rear would have gone out along time ago.
#103
Originally Posted by jimmy169
I agree, that's why when people use the money excuse it just annoys me, there are many route's to take when it come's to power and putting it to the ground, money shouldn't be an aspect there are just too many dif. choices and compromises you can make. If his car costs more, deal with it or don't race em. If you beat em and his car costs more, he might have more important things to worry about than winning one race with his car, or maybe you're the better machanic/driver. Everyone can pull an excuse out of their ***, aspecially the money factor excuse, my favorite one.
#104
Originally Posted by slick1851
My best friends car lasted 4 years with a 200shot being spray, we lost count of the bottles.
Motor never blew, hes putting in a 408 with a bigger shot.....
So used right its fine, You sound like a nitrous sissy
Motor never blew, hes putting in a 408 with a bigger shot.....
So used right its fine, You sound like a nitrous sissy
Call me a nitrous sissy all you want #1 I plan to go the nitrous route with my next car. #2 I'm not gonna bother wasting time with the insulting game, plus u drive a dsm too, I don't like insulting fellow dsm owner's, lol, I was too busy playing with boost myself to use nitrous before in my last dsm.
#105
Originally Posted by 25psi
I dont understand how people can actually think a 550rwhp 350z would get pulled on by a stock c6 Z06 with 100 less rwhp. But yet only manages 113mph traps.
You can make all the excuses you want for said 350Z, you're basing your whole argument on one 1/4 run (that is pretty crappy granted), but this video wasn't a 1/4 run. Beyond that, this isn't the only 500 ish rwhp car Fadi's Z06 has owned, the videos are all over the freakin' place... The C6 Z06 is a monster for a stock car, plain and simple (and I wonder if this particular Z06 isn't a really strong example...).
Last edited by Camaro Fan; 10-14-2006 at 02:43 PM.
#106
Originally Posted by jimmy169
How much money did he spend refilling the bottle for 4 year's? How long does a decent sized bottle last 50-60 seconds? That's a lot of seconds in 4 year's.
Call me a nitrous sissy all you want #1 I plan to go the nitrous route with my next car. #2 I'm not gonna bother wasting time with the insulting game, plus u drive a dsm too, I don't like insulting fellow dsm owner's, lol, I was too busy playing with boost myself to use nitrous before in my last dsm.
Call me a nitrous sissy all you want #1 I plan to go the nitrous route with my next car. #2 I'm not gonna bother wasting time with the insulting game, plus u drive a dsm too, I don't like insulting fellow dsm owner's, lol, I was too busy playing with boost myself to use nitrous before in my last dsm.
I dont know, how much was spent but think about this
Its easy to finance a car then buying cash
Thats what nitrous is, monthly payments for power but without owning the car. Lol does that make sense? Its cheaper and easyer to pay for than going out and dropping 10k for a turbo setup etc
DSM are Junk what is there to say? I speak the truth
They are cheap and fast
#107
Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
It's not that I was trying to use money as an excuse, I just wanted to note that he had to put 30 grand into his car to make the kind of power LS1 will make with 5-7 grand worth of work. While his car is very fast and respectable, for $30,000 I'd expect more than 600whp... That's all I wanted to say
Fair enough. S'all good, lol. It always take's me to see that a thread has gone a good 3-4 page's before I want to add my 2 cent's, lol.
#108
Originally Posted by OdessitPashka
I agree with you, but I don't see a point of spending $6000 on a turbo kit unless you're going to rebuild the motor, you can make the same power with nitrous.
On the other hand, if I had the money to rebuild the engine, I would be pushing way more than 600whp out of my forged LS1 with a nice turbo kit. And I bet you'd it would still cost me less than $30,000.
On the other hand, if I had the money to rebuild the engine, I would be pushing way more than 600whp out of my forged LS1 with a nice turbo kit. And I bet you'd it would still cost me less than $30,000.
You need to take into consideration, that most of the parts on the car where not intended to be performance parts. Here are my lists of parts:
Speedforceracing.com turbo kit- $6600(twin dual ball bearing 60-1)
Autobanh motorsports biult longblock $5500
Clutch-$2200
Fuel system-$1000
labor-$2500
Standalone-$3000
suspension-$1200
axles-$1100
tuning-$1000(guessing)
This is roughly 24000 give or take a little. My car will most likely hit 750-800rwhp with 20-24psi of boost. I could have bought a cheaper clutch(1000), turbokit(5000) and saved 2-3000 but I didnt. The point is, I have a reliable 700rwhp car.
You keep referring to him only making 600rwhp. His car is fully built and has the ability to push more if he chooses. 600rwhp to me is more than enough for the street.
#110
Originally Posted by 25psi
You need to take into consideration, that most of the parts on the car where not intended to be performance parts. Here are my lists of parts:
Speedforceracing.com turbo kit- $6600(twin dual ball bearing 60-1)
Autobanh motorsports biult longblock $5500
Clutch-$2200
Fuel system-$1000
labor-$2500
Standalone-$3000
suspension-$1200
axles-$1100
tuning-$1000(guessing)
This is roughly 24000 give or take a little. My car will most likely hit 750-800rwhp with 20-24psi of boost. I could have bought a cheaper clutch(1000), turbokit(5000) and saved 2-3000 but I didnt. The point is, I have a reliable 700rwhp car.
You keep referring to him only making 600rwhp. His car is fully built and has the ability to push more if he chooses. 600rwhp to me is more than enough for the street.
Speedforceracing.com turbo kit- $6600(twin dual ball bearing 60-1)
Autobanh motorsports biult longblock $5500
Clutch-$2200
Fuel system-$1000
labor-$2500
Standalone-$3000
suspension-$1200
axles-$1100
tuning-$1000(guessing)
This is roughly 24000 give or take a little. My car will most likely hit 750-800rwhp with 20-24psi of boost. I could have bought a cheaper clutch(1000), turbokit(5000) and saved 2-3000 but I didnt. The point is, I have a reliable 700rwhp car.
You keep referring to him only making 600rwhp. His car is fully built and has the ability to push more if he chooses. 600rwhp to me is more than enough for the street.
Its not, thats the whole damn point! Dude look at Hide! With 400hp it was shearding apart drivetrain stuff.
You built a great roll on/ highway car that would pull on alot of things but for the 1/4 its not great at all.
#111
Originally Posted by Camaro Fan
How could the stock 450rwhp C6 Z06 beat the 500+ rwhp supercharged heads/cam LS1 Camaro SS and 470 rwhp heads/cam C5 that it did in other videos? How could the same Z06 run door to door from highway runs w/ a 500+ rwhp Ford GT (winning a couple losing a couple)? Because it's an awesome ride that that is more than just a typical 450rwhp car. Because it's a whole package that works extremely well as a whole...
You can make all the excuses you want for said 350Z, you're basing your whole argument on one 1/4 run (that is pretty crappy granted), but this video wasn't a 1/4 run. Beyond that, this isn't the only 500 ish rwhp car Fadi's Z06 has owned, the videos are all over the freakin' place... The C6 Z06 is a monster for a stock car, plain and simple.
You can make all the excuses you want for said 350Z, you're basing your whole argument on one 1/4 run (that is pretty crappy granted), but this video wasn't a 1/4 run. Beyond that, this isn't the only 500 ish rwhp car Fadi's Z06 has owned, the videos are all over the freakin' place... The C6 Z06 is a monster for a stock car, plain and simple.
It has been proven that the car that Fadi raced was not 550rwhp, more like 380rwhp or something like that. Let me ask you this. Why does the 350 that Fadi raced run 113 traps and the one in this vid runs 130+ traps with nearly identical rwhp #'s. Would Fadi or should I say the Z06 pull a stock viper like that.
#112
Originally Posted by slick1851
I dont know, how much was spent but think about this
Its easy to finance a car then buying cash
Thats what nitrous is, monthly payments for power but without owning the car. Lol does that make sense? Its cheaper and easyer to pay for than going out and dropping 10k for a turbo setup etc
Its easy to finance a car then buying cash
Thats what nitrous is, monthly payments for power but without owning the car. Lol does that make sense? Its cheaper and easyer to pay for than going out and dropping 10k for a turbo setup etc
DSM are Junk what is there to say? I speak the truth
They are cheap and fast
They are cheap and fast
Actually nevermind, this may open up a whole new can of worms, I know I know ultimately the v8 will make more power and all that good stuff this was prob a bad example, I'm still a little hung over from last night, lol. But you sorta get what I'm saying? I just don't like the money excuse there's always cheaper ways to go about it, lol, bottom line!
#113
Aint you supposed to be somewhere?
Originally Posted by 25psi
You need to take into consideration, that most of the parts on the car where not intended to be performance parts. Here are my lists of parts:
Speedforceracing.com turbo kit- $6600(twin dual ball bearing 60-1)
Autobanh motorsports biult longblock $5500
Clutch-$2200
Fuel system-$1000
labor-$2500
Standalone-$3000
suspension-$1200
axles-$1100
tuning-$1000(guessing)
This is roughly 24000 give or take a little. My car will most likely hit 750-800rwhp with 20-24psi of boost. I could have bought a cheaper clutch(1000), turbokit(5000) and saved 2-3000 but I didnt. The point is, I have a reliable 700rwhp car.
You keep referring to him only making 600rwhp. His car is fully built and has the ability to push more if he chooses. 600rwhp to me is more than enough for the street.
Speedforceracing.com turbo kit- $6600(twin dual ball bearing 60-1)
Autobanh motorsports biult longblock $5500
Clutch-$2200
Fuel system-$1000
labor-$2500
Standalone-$3000
suspension-$1200
axles-$1100
tuning-$1000(guessing)
This is roughly 24000 give or take a little. My car will most likely hit 750-800rwhp with 20-24psi of boost. I could have bought a cheaper clutch(1000), turbokit(5000) and saved 2-3000 but I didnt. The point is, I have a reliable 700rwhp car.
You keep referring to him only making 600rwhp. His car is fully built and has the ability to push more if he chooses. 600rwhp to me is more than enough for the street.
#114
Originally Posted by slick1851
Jimmy169
I dont disagree with anything your saying, you have a good head on your shoulders.
I dont disagree with anything your saying, you have a good head on your shoulders.
Same with you, sometime's you have to live and learn to realize that's it's easier said than done. I mean we can talk all we want about how much easier and cheaper it'll be to mod this or that, but there are always so many hidden costs.
#115
Originally Posted by slick1851
Its not, thats the whole damn point! Dude look at Hide! With 400hp it was shearding apart drivetrain stuff.
You built a great roll on/ highway car that would pull on alot of things but for the 1/4 its not great at all.
You built a great roll on/ highway car that would pull on alot of things but for the 1/4 its not great at all.
I have no roll cage in the deuce. So I have no chance to practice at a track. I think my mph indicates the potential of the car, being it is 134mph. I ran a 11.2 at 134 with a 2.2 60ft on street tires. This was done on 27psi not the 35psi I have bumped it up to.
#116
Originally Posted by jimmy169
Same with you, sometime's you have to live and learn to realize that's it's easier said than done. I mean we can talk all we want about how much easier and cheaper it'll be to mod this or that, but there are always so many hidden costs.
True indeed.
#117
Originally Posted by 25psi
I have no roll cage in the deuce. So I have no chance to practice at a track. I think my mph indicates the potential of the car, being it is 134mph. I ran a 11.2 at 134 with a 2.2 60ft on street tires. This was done on 27psi not the 35psi I have bumped it up to.
At the Grove a civic ran 12.9 and trapped 129mph!!!!!
The car just cant hook, Trap speed gives you a idea of the car
But really you cannot use trap speed, its like a cheap A/F gauge it barly works and isnt the best thing to use....
Guys this has been good, sorry If I wasnt as civil but im glad we could talk about a topic in a good manor. I hope it keeps going
#118
Originally Posted by slick1851
At the Grove a civic ran 12.9 and trapped 129mph!!!!!
The car just cant hook, Trap speed gives you a idea of the car
But really you cannot use trap speed, its like a cheap A/F gauge it barly works and isnt the best thing to use....
Guys this has been good, sorry If I wasnt as civil but im glad we could talk about a topic in a good manor. I hope it keeps going
The car just cant hook, Trap speed gives you a idea of the car
But really you cannot use trap speed, its like a cheap A/F gauge it barly works and isnt the best thing to use....
Guys this has been good, sorry If I wasnt as civil but im glad we could talk about a topic in a good manor. I hope it keeps going