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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by 88GTA
ls7 uses 11:1 CR plus 7L with 2 valves per cylinder. (505hp)
ls1 uses 10:1 CR plus 5.7L with 2 valves per cylinder. (345hp)
i guess a bump from 10:1 to 11:1 is significant, but not mind blowing. displacement means a lot.
no car gets good mileage when it is actually making it's peak horsepower. (unless it has no power!) I spoke to a guy with a basically stock wrx wagon with a boost controller. when he is on it, he gets 12mpg. comparing 'best' mileage is kinda deceiving. comparing 'worst' mpg can tell you more about efficiency when the engine is actually making the power.
ls1 uses 10:1 CR plus 5.7L with 2 valves per cylinder. (345hp)
i guess a bump from 10:1 to 11:1 is significant, but not mind blowing. displacement means a lot.
no car gets good mileage when it is actually making it's peak horsepower. (unless it has no power!) I spoke to a guy with a basically stock wrx wagon with a boost controller. when he is on it, he gets 12mpg. comparing 'best' mileage is kinda deceiving. comparing 'worst' mpg can tell you more about efficiency when the engine is actually making the power.
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
Im with you but we do have tool bags that need to make up for there **** size by buying a v8. I dont talk out of my ***, if Im wrong Im wrong. If we race and I lose you have the faster car. I dont want to here," that ricer spent $10k just to beat me" I also dont wanna hear "well he has a V8 so I should of lost"
It would be hard to belive that GM spent that much money on that motor. GM is damn near broke. My uncle is the project mang for the Caddy SRX. He lives in Lanceing sp? Mich. GM is having a hard time, even the Z06 has some problems, such as the roof wanting to fly off. But, people buy that car for the motor and as long as that works they should be happy
I believe about half of the profit from every car GM sells goes to pensioners. These are people who signed on with GM in the 60s and got great worker benefits b/c of the unions. Even though these people have since retired, GM continues paying them wages in the form of a pension. This attracted lots of workers but now GM is suffering for it. The unions have since rolled back some of their benefits in an effort to help keep GM a viable company. There was a 60 minutes about this within the last year I think.
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
Im sure alot more went into the Z06 motor then just the 7lts. How well do the intake and heads flow??? Im sure alot better the a C6 or any other LSx
some fun reading:
http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2006/LS7.shtml
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
Im with you but we do have tool bags that need to make up for there **** size by buying a v8. I dont talk out of my ***, if Im wrong Im wrong. If we race and I lose you have the faster car. I dont want to here," that ricer spent $10k just to beat me" I also dont wanna hear "well he has a V8 so I should of lost"
It would be hard to belive that GM spent that much money on that motor. GM is damn near broke. My uncle is the project mang for the Caddy SRX. He lives in Lanceing sp? Mich. GM is having a hard time, even the Z06 has some problems, such as the roof wanting to fly off. But, people buy that car for the motor and as long as that works they should be happy
It would be hard to belive that GM spent that much money on that motor. GM is damn near broke. My uncle is the project mang for the Caddy SRX. He lives in Lanceing sp? Mich. GM is having a hard time, even the Z06 has some problems, such as the roof wanting to fly off. But, people buy that car for the motor and as long as that works they should be happy
The Z06 has problems "such as the roof wanting to fly off"?? Why don't you explain how thats possible, considering its a hardtop. No Convertable or removeable roof is even offered, therefore that doesn't make sense.
People buy the Z06 just for the engine?? Are you serious?? I suppose its beautiful styling, aggresive appearance, supercar handling, awesome sound, and racing derived components mean nothing to most buyers. I'm going to say this one more time: You're a moron
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by TransAminal
Well if us V8 owners "need to compensate for things" as you claim, then I suppose you are displaying your sexual orientation by owning a little Honda convertable. Meaning your a homo, so stop talking ****.
The Z06 has problems "such as the roof wanting to fly off"?? Why don't you explain how thats possible, considering its a hardtop. No Convertable or removeable roof is even offered, therefore that doesn't make sense.
People buy the Z06 just for the engine?? Are you serious?? I suppose its beautiful styling, aggresive appearance, supercar handling, awesome sound, and racing derived components mean nothing to most buyers. I'm going to say this one more time: You're a moron
The Z06 has problems "such as the roof wanting to fly off"?? Why don't you explain how thats possible, considering its a hardtop. No Convertable or removeable roof is even offered, therefore that doesn't make sense.
People buy the Z06 just for the engine?? Are you serious?? I suppose its beautiful styling, aggresive appearance, supercar handling, awesome sound, and racing derived components mean nothing to most buyers. I'm going to say this one more time: You're a moron
Do you live near me??? If so, you wanna run my 4 banger???
I know its a hard top. The thin tops are falling apart where it is glued. Many people have been waiting over 3 months for chevy to fix there cars but they are told there are no new roofs yet there are new Z06s everyday
I also think the car looks damn good. They spent over 20 hours in the wind tunnel just to get the brake coolers to work right, thats crazy. In a good way
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by 88GTA
you came on pretty strong claiming the ls1 as a lowtech ('underpowered' even!) engine, when it is not. That is what drew the much stronger (too strong) response from TransAminal. he may be a bit caustic, but he has his facts straight for the most part.
about Gm and their financial difficulties:
I believe about half of the profit from every car GM sells goes to pensioners. These are people who signed on with GM in the 60s and got great worker benefits b/c of the unions. Even though these people have since retired, GM continues paying them wages in the form of a pension. This attracted lots of workers but now GM is suffering for it. The unions have since rolled back some of their benefits in an effort to help keep GM a viable company. There was a 60 minutes about this within the last year I think.
about Gm and their financial difficulties:
I believe about half of the profit from every car GM sells goes to pensioners. These are people who signed on with GM in the 60s and got great worker benefits b/c of the unions. Even though these people have since retired, GM continues paying them wages in the form of a pension. This attracted lots of workers but now GM is suffering for it. The unions have since rolled back some of their benefits in an effort to help keep GM a viable company. There was a 60 minutes about this within the last year I think.
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by 88GTA
you came on pretty strong claiming the ls1 as a lowtech ('underpowered' even!) engine, when it is not. That is what drew the much stronger (too strong) response from TransAminal. he may be a bit caustic, but he has his facts straight for the most part.
I just think if GM would use some of the tech that the japs have they could make a motor with alot more h/p. Look at Audi with the RS4 it has a 4.2lt V8 with 420hp DOHC, VVT, 11 to 1 c/r 4valves per cly. Now think of a 5.7lt with that. It would make 550+ hp. What about the z06 motor, that damn thing would be 650+. Its just a thought, I think it would be nice
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
He was the one that started the **** like a little kid calling people "rice"
I just think if GM would use some of the tech that the japs have they could make a motor with alot more h/p. Look at Audi with the RS4 it has a 4.2lt V8 with 420hp DOHC, VVT, 11 to 1 c/r 4valves per cly. Now think of a 5.7lt with that. It would make 550+ hp. What about the z06 motor, that damn thing would be 650+. Its just a thought, I think it would be nice
I just think if GM would use some of the tech that the japs have they could make a motor with alot more h/p. Look at Audi with the RS4 it has a 4.2lt V8 with 420hp DOHC, VVT, 11 to 1 c/r 4valves per cly. Now think of a 5.7lt with that. It would make 550+ hp. What about the z06 motor, that damn thing would be 650+. Its just a thought, I think it would be nice
Its not that easy or simple. Its amazing motor as it is, and it has no F/I. It has an awesome powerband, sounds great, weighs next to nothing, and still manages 27MPG on the highway. Take your ricer **** and German engineering somewhere else, the LS7 is all American engineering, and it works damn well. When the Japs learn how to built anything with over 320HP, why don't you let us know. For now, stop wasting space
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
He was the one that started the **** like a little kid calling people "rice"
I just think if GM would use some of the tech that the japs have they could make a motor with alot more h/p. Look at Audi with the RS4 it has a 4.2lt V8 with 420hp DOHC, VVT, 11 to 1 c/r 4valves per cly. Now think of a 5.7lt with that. It would make 550+ hp. What about the z06 motor, that damn thing would be 650+. Its just a thought, I think it would be nice
I just think if GM would use some of the tech that the japs have they could make a motor with alot more h/p. Look at Audi with the RS4 it has a 4.2lt V8 with 420hp DOHC, VVT, 11 to 1 c/r 4valves per cly. Now think of a 5.7lt with that. It would make 550+ hp. What about the z06 motor, that damn thing would be 650+. Its just a thought, I think it would be nice
wow, my little kill story turned into all this!!
I consider myself very unbiased. I had a WRX before my corvette. I respect the technology of the imports and the simplicity of the domestics. The reason gm doesn't do this is business. Which do you think costs more? the aforementioned audi motor or an ls2? Gm is has all the engineering capabilities in the world. It doesn't NEED to make a high-tech high performance motor. It gets it done and has developed one hell of a following with it's gen III/IV. The main reason I bought a vette was engine and it's comparatively cheap performance.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a direct injected 32 valve 8200 rpm (that's from memory so PLEASE don't correct me, it's to make a point!) awd luxury machine if i was going to leave it stock. but i believe, as I'm guessing the rest of this forum believes, that half the fun of going fast is making it faster with your own two hands. A good ole small block fits the bill.
I would love to return to the import world again one day when the budget permits.
Sorry for my rambling, inarticulate argument. I just hate to see this mindless commentary from BOTH sides. Go out and drive YOUR ******* cars the way YOU want to drive them. This thread was a kill story. not even a particularly good one. So everybody should just let this thread be retired.
Good Night
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
Oh, I ran a 11.3 @ 127mph on stock 225-55-16 B/S and a leaking exhaust gasket. That was with about 475-500rwhp, if I was lucky. I did pull a 1.9 60ft every time with the stock tires. I was happy. But I do have a 2-step with anti-lag
Ricer ALWAYS have an excuse as to why they didn't run faster. You "had an exhaust leak" or "he had a boost leak" or "his VTEC wasn't working" or "his timing was off". Enough already, nobody cares, you ran what you ran. You should have addressed the issue before hand if it was a problem.
Just shutup and stop making excuses that elude to you running better times. We've heard them all before, you're a typical Honda owner through and through
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
No, it wouldn't. You don't have a clue what an engineering masterpiece the LS7 is. You look at it, compare it to your shitty Jap motors, and claim that its primitive because it doesn't have "VVT" or 4 Valves per cylinder.
Its not that easy or simple. Its amazing motor as it is, and it has no F/I. It has an awesome powerband, sounds great, weighs next to nothing, and still manages 27MPG on the highway. Take your ricer **** and German engineering somewhere else, the LS7 is all American engineering, and it works damn well. When the Japs learn how to built anything with over 320HP, why don't you let us know. For now, stop wasting space
Its not that easy or simple. Its amazing motor as it is, and it has no F/I. It has an awesome powerband, sounds great, weighs next to nothing, and still manages 27MPG on the highway. Take your ricer **** and German engineering somewhere else, the LS7 is all American engineering, and it works damn well. When the Japs learn how to built anything with over 320HP, why don't you let us know. For now, stop wasting space
Thanks for providing everyone with the template of how to be an arrogant caustic ***. what do you expect to accomplish that wasn't done in 3 pages? do you think he will be like "wow, your right, let me sell my s2000" time to buy a camaro. Who gives a **** about what somebody else spent there money on. it wasn't your ******* tax dollars so chill out. that argument is a desperate attempt to quantify your own insecurities.
Simply due to your tone throughout this thread I believe you have a stock car (so do I) and more importantly a car that is dramatically slower than this s2000.
later pimp
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Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
I do belive Pontiac also makes "economy" cars. Just because Honda can get as much h/p out of a 6cly as Chevy/ Pontiac does out of a 8.
Originally Posted by BLACKTURBOS2K
As you can see, i would NEVER bring up the H/p per Liter ****, thats like shooting a dead horse
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by TransAminal
You're a toolshed
I NEVER said **** about h/p per lt.
I will ask you one more time.
IF YOU LIVE NEAR ME WOULD YOU LIKE TO RUN YOUR CAR
I said it before, I belive your a little kide with a V8 that thinks he has a fast car. Tell us about some of your kill, how about a time slip, dyno???
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by bottlefedC5
Thanks for providing everyone with the template of how to be an arrogant caustic ***. what do you expect to accomplish that wasn't done in 3 pages? do you think he will be like "wow, your right, let me sell my s2000" time to buy a camaro. Who gives a **** about what somebody else spent there money on. it wasn't your ******* tax dollars so chill out. that argument is a desperate attempt to quantify your own insecurities.
Simply due to your tone throughout this thread I believe you have a stock car (so do I) and more importantly a car that is dramatically slower than this s2000.
later pimp
Simply due to your tone throughout this thread I believe you have a stock car (so do I) and more importantly a car that is dramatically slower than this s2000.
later pimp
Im not on here to say V8s suck, I had a Z28 when I was younger. It caught fire and I bought a 300zx tt then my s2k.
I just like to have a fast car, be it a V8 or 4cyl. I will race anyone as long as its a good fair race, as some of you know. I raced a C6 with IHE,cam and 175 shot. I missed shift 5th so I paid the man $50. **** sucks
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by TransAminal
I absolutely love it.
Ricer ALWAYS have an excuse as to why they didn't run faster. You "had an exhaust leak" or "he had a boost leak" or "his VTEC wasn't working" or "his timing was off". Enough already, nobody cares, you ran what you ran. You should have addressed the issue before hand if it was a problem.
Just shutup and stop making excuses that elude to you running better times. We've heard them all before, you're a typical Honda owner through and through
Ricer ALWAYS have an excuse as to why they didn't run faster. You "had an exhaust leak" or "he had a boost leak" or "his VTEC wasn't working" or "his timing was off". Enough already, nobody cares, you ran what you ran. You should have addressed the issue before hand if it was a problem.
Just shutup and stop making excuses that elude to you running better times. We've heard them all before, you're a typical Honda owner through and through
Im sure you dont know because you are too busy talking ****
i have been on this forum for damn near 2 years, you have been here 2 months. I assume you just got your car didnt you. How old are you??? Still in high school????
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Originally Posted by TransAminal
When the Japs learn how to built anything with over 320HP, why don't you let us know. For now, stop wasting space
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From: Sterling VA
Originally Posted by bottlefedC5
wow, my little kill story turned into all this!!
I consider myself very unbiased. I had a WRX before my corvette. I respect the technology of the imports and the simplicity of the domestics. The reason gm doesn't do this is business. Which do you think costs more? the aforementioned audi motor or an ls2? Gm is has all the engineering capabilities in the world. It doesn't NEED to make a high-tech high performance motor. It gets it done and has developed one hell of a following with it's gen III/IV. The main reason I bought a vette was engine and it's comparatively cheap performance.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a direct injected 32 valve 8200 rpm (that's from memory so PLEASE don't correct me, it's to make a point!) awd luxury machine if i was going to leave it stock. but i believe, as I'm guessing the rest of this forum believes, that half the fun of going fast is making it faster with your own two hands. A good ole small block fits the bill.
I would love to return to the import world again one day when the budget permits.
Sorry for my rambling, inarticulate argument. I just hate to see this mindless commentary from BOTH sides. Go out and drive YOUR ******* cars the way YOU want to drive them. This thread was a kill story. not even a particularly good one. So everybody should just let this thread be retired.
Good Night
I consider myself very unbiased. I had a WRX before my corvette. I respect the technology of the imports and the simplicity of the domestics. The reason gm doesn't do this is business. Which do you think costs more? the aforementioned audi motor or an ls2? Gm is has all the engineering capabilities in the world. It doesn't NEED to make a high-tech high performance motor. It gets it done and has developed one hell of a following with it's gen III/IV. The main reason I bought a vette was engine and it's comparatively cheap performance.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather have a direct injected 32 valve 8200 rpm (that's from memory so PLEASE don't correct me, it's to make a point!) awd luxury machine if i was going to leave it stock. but i believe, as I'm guessing the rest of this forum believes, that half the fun of going fast is making it faster with your own two hands. A good ole small block fits the bill.
I would love to return to the import world again one day when the budget permits.
Sorry for my rambling, inarticulate argument. I just hate to see this mindless commentary from BOTH sides. Go out and drive YOUR ******* cars the way YOU want to drive them. This thread was a kill story. not even a particularly good one. So everybody should just let this thread be retired.
Good Night
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I raced a s2000 in the T.A and killed him. Stock Vrs Stock. The honda owners swore he could beat me. At the end he goes wow man nice kill, I had a miss shift. I replied wanna run again? He said no I my wife is waiting for me at home for dinner. lol
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The Z06 has problems "such as the roof wanting to fly off"?? Why don't you explain how thats possible, considering its a hardtop. No Convertable or removeable roof is even offered, therefore that doesn't make sense.