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just as well add to this thread..last summer i bought a 02 Zx6r (599 cc not the new 636's) and with a pipe and filter first time at track i ran a 11.1 with 1.9 60 ft's..in 3 weeks im trading my 98 m6 Z For a 2005 R1 from a guy in Wisconsin..ill let you know how it runs =)
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...1-Bikes are light and fast.
...2-Fbods are heavy and fast.
...3-All riders are not equal.
...4-If I get beat by a better driver, I got beat.
...5-I could pull some of the drivers on this forum with my stock as a rock 07 Harley Night Train.
...2-Fbods are heavy and fast.
...3-All riders are not equal.
...4-If I get beat by a better driver, I got beat.
...5-I could pull some of the drivers on this forum with my stock as a rock 07 Harley Night Train.
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you know it took me about 5 minutes to "google search" and find DOZENS of guys posting 12 second time slips with STOCK 700+lb Harleys.
Slightly modded 100hp Harleys running 11's in the teens.....
but SOMEHOW these jokers on here can beat 400lb 100+ hp high 10 second 125+mph bikes , with a mild bolton ls1........AND there serious.
Slightly modded 100hp Harleys running 11's in the teens.....
but SOMEHOW these jokers on here can beat 400lb 100+ hp high 10 second 125+mph bikes , with a mild bolton ls1........AND there serious.
01-19-2007, 06:46 AM
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I have ran against numerous bikes...1000's and under. The liter bikes that I have raced, we never had a proper length in front of us to safely hit the kind of speeds we where capable of but, on the liter bikes, they'd ALL but about 1 1/2 car lengths on me then stop they're pull...then you can clearly see me walking up on them no problem at 120plus mph. Thats me without spray.
Every 600 and 740 I raced, they'd put about a bike on me right off the bat.....then they'd get ropped and i'd watch them from my mirrors.
Now my cousins car, I have been in that car running down hayabusa's at highway speeds. Him also on motor. On nitrous, they have no chance.
No chance at all. Just as long as they don't lift at 120-130mph, they'll see the lights.
In a recent muscle mustangs and fast fords mag, a dude in a 800+rwhp cobra(sn-95) would race BUILT BUSA's from 40 mph rolls, and walk them. The busa had spray or a turbo. Pretty dope ****.
I have owned bikes, and alot of my buddies still have em. I'll get some video up as soon as I am back on the street. I weigh 3100lbs.
Every 600 and 740 I raced, they'd put about a bike on me right off the bat.....then they'd get ropped and i'd watch them from my mirrors.
Now my cousins car, I have been in that car running down hayabusa's at highway speeds. Him also on motor. On nitrous, they have no chance.
No chance at all. Just as long as they don't lift at 120-130mph, they'll see the lights.
In a recent muscle mustangs and fast fords mag, a dude in a 800+rwhp cobra(sn-95) would race BUILT BUSA's from 40 mph rolls, and walk them. The busa had spray or a turbo. Pretty dope ****.
I have owned bikes, and alot of my buddies still have em. I'll get some video up as soon as I am back on the street. I weigh 3100lbs.
01-19-2007, 01:42 PM
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I dug this up it's a big cam stock bottom ls1 with a 200 shot. There's a few races with bikes looks like r1's towards the end, starting at 8:10
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...10&q=ls1&hl=en
The same car against a lightly modded busa
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...1be2789a29.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...10&q=ls1&hl=en
The same car against a lightly modded busa
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...1be2789a29.htm
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I have a headache and feel almost stupid from reading some of the pointless and unfounded and unsupported posts in this thread. I want my 10 minutes of my life back...
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
01-19-2007, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Joezee
v-seriestech, what's your point ? your clearly NOWHERE near a MILD bolton car like the ORIGINAL post question.....awsome kills though, and nice car.
Unless i'm mistaken dipshit, the title of the post is "LS1 vs bike", not Fbody vs bike.
Mild bolt on? Sure. Everything bolts in, just like yours.
whats my point? ha. I'll refrain from the *** chewing....and just say whatever junior....i'm well versed in the bike vs car/bike vs bike thing. Been there, done that.
Oh, and thanks for the blow job
01-19-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
I have a headache and feel almost stupid from reading some of the pointless and unfounded and unsupported posts in this thread. I want my 10 minutes of my life back...
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
Nice post.
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
I have a headache and feel almost stupid from reading some of the pointless and unfounded and unsupported posts in this thread. I want my 10 minutes of my life back...
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
I have been a motorcyclist for most of my life. I have owned and or own...
1991 Katana 600
2000 ZX6R Kawasaki
2003 ZX6R 636 Kawasaki, dyno'd at 110rwhp, ran 11.04 1/4 at 129mph.
2005 ZX10R Kawasaki, my current ride, dyno'd 160rwhp, ran 10.6x at 145mph.
Owned three F-body's from the anemic to the LS1.
You will not beat a 2003 supersport 600 at the drag strip with a bolt on LS1 unless the rider sucks ***, or the bike is not running at its potentil. by supersport 600 I mean...
ZX6R 2003+
CRB600rr 2003+
GSX600R 2003+
YZF-R6 2003+
Starting at those year all of those bikes made right at or slightly over 120 crank hp, dyno'd at 100+rwhp and ran high 10's low 11's from every test the mads did. Now lets step back into reality. Most of those tests were in Cali or low elevation areas with awesome tracks, the normal rider where most of us live will run a mid to high 11 on a modern 600, most experienced riders running low 11's and some consistantly getting into the high 10's on a stock suspension, stock setup bike. I am not talking to drag racer who has a 6" swing arm extension on his 600.
So in reality most modern supersport 600 as I listed above are in the mid 11's at the drag strip. They 60ft easily at 1.8's with a good rider, right under 2.0 with a newer rider.
How many in here with a bolt on LS1 run those time? Bueller...Bueller?
I raced my 636 so many time at the track is is not funny. I also installed a Speedohealer so that I knew exactly how fast the top end was to get rid of the speedo error so that I was not one of those squids saying "my 600 does 182 cause I saw it man..."
Modern 600's top out at 160 +/- maybe 8 miles per hour. Every mag tests them with radar guns and prints the same thing in the mags.
A bolt on LS1 is not going to consistantly beat a supersport 600 that is putting down 110rwhp unless the rider is not adept enough to ride the bike right. No way, not even if you do throw the cow over the moon and vidoe the spoon running away with the fork and can put Humpty Dumpty bacl together again.
Roll on races on the high way from 60 mph and above are completly a drivers/riders race. Gear selection, rpms, mph from the start are all going to effect the outcome. If you drive a M6 LS1 making 330rwhp you know that at 60mph you can slam 2nd and hammer it and be right in the sweet spot. for the average 600 60mph is right at the mid to top end of 1st, if they use that gear the bike will do nothing but wheelie, most are going to try 2nd then knowing that and that is going to put them under the 600 power curve.
Then you continue the race, as the bike builds steam and gets back into it curve and you at this time are both well over the 100mph mark and now into the 125+mph area now the aero advantages/disadvantages of each vehicle are going to start to come into play. Push the 600 over 140mph and it is starting to get to where it does not pull as hard as its 110rwhp is trying to over come the gearing and Aerodynamics and starting to reach its terminal velocity of right around 160mph. The car on the other hand still has 300+ft lbs of torque and 300+rwhp pushing it ahead and alowing it to gain on the bike and maybe pass it, IF both of the people have the will to go that high on a street race.
I have raced 600cc bikes in my 2001 Formula that is right at 350rwhp. I won the race against a lower end 600, raced a 2005 ZX6r 636 and i pulled on him as well. My knowledge of the bikes tells me the rider was new and was not in the right gear, he prob started in 3rd thinking a car was no challange. had the race been in 2nd at the 65 we started at and the outcome would of have been alot closer and or different.
Dont even get me started on 1000's, if you beat a 1000 on a street roll race the rider should be sent back to the minors cause it just is not going to happen unless you have a built car pushing well over the 500+rwhp mark. There is no bolt on Ls1 or anything for that matter that is going to outrun a 1000 on the street in a roll on race.
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v series tech you are an ******* who can't read....
the original question was asked by a guy who runs 12.7 @ 109.....wanting to know if " a few boltons" could beat a 600.....etc
but wise asses like you confuse hp with status on this board.
if you are ever in florida look me up....anytime...junior...thats funny...
sneakyws6....excellent post.
the original question was asked by a guy who runs 12.7 @ 109.....wanting to know if " a few boltons" could beat a 600.....etc
but wise asses like you confuse hp with status on this board.
if you are ever in florida look me up....anytime...junior...thats funny...
sneakyws6....excellent post.