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Anyone have a vid of a LS1 vs LT1 (stock to stock)?

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Old 02-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Greedynessnish
What did the difference in top end feel like?
Between the LT1 and the LS1? The difference is night and day. The LT1 loses steam very quickly once you hit highway speeds (+60mph). And as we know, the LS1 continues to pull and pull.

My LT1 after 60mph pulled as slow as my LS1 past 130mph. All SOTP here. There's no way I can factually measure that.
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
I find your jokes amusing
I never said i raced a 300hp ls1 car read carefully
The timing on those engines was way to low by advancing the timing picks the car up a good bit.
No but you did say this:

Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
The ls1's are in a totally different league so no contest your talking bout low 13's for a ls1 and high 13's even seen them run low 14's. Put a gear and some gas on your car and put em in both rear view mirrors.
You're not clear about who's car your referring to so I took it as a statement saying gears and gas on a 305 (still not sure what gas on the car does) makes you able to beat LT1's & LS1's. You seem to think you have a monster on your hands so this was by no means a stretch. If you would be more clear in your posts then there would be less confusion.

Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
There's a formula for caculating your 8th time to get your quater time or 1/4 thanks for the correction.
Take your 8th time multiply it by 1.58 and it gives you your 1/4 time right around 3 tenths of your time.
Yes I was aware there is a mathamatical formula for estimating a 1/4 mile time from a 1/8 timeslip. I never said there wasn't.

Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
SO 9.43 times 1.58 gives you 14.8-14.5 not 15.90's or mid to high 16's.
I said your car was mid 15's stock which it was. You had 190 FWHP 305 with an automatic so consider yourself lucky that those turds could run 15's stock And a 2800 stall + 3.42's do not = 1.0 off your 1/4 mile time. Now here are the numbers on that monster 305 engine:

HP 190@4000 TQ 285@2800

As you can see these motors were not overly powerful at upper RPM's. You're 1/8 mile is going to be more impressive then the 1/4 mile due to the fact that they hit a "brick wall" at 80 MPH. Maybe this is why the speedos only went to 85

Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
As the car sits now i only give it 13.6 to 13.7.
Stop bench racing and go actually run a 1/4 mile. Until then you're just speculating which means two things around here. Jack and s***.


Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
I need to invest in a good stall and a holly carb some where aound 750cfm.
No offense but you really need to invest in a better motor. LS1 swap would be a good start

Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
Your off just a few tenths with that low 13's statment though close but no cookie.
No I'm not. Your car ran a mid 15 stock and it certainly didn't get a full second faster with a stall and 3.42's. Especially since you only managed a 2.006 60' which is nothing to brag about. I have done that on stock stall and street tires.

What no cookie? How about a Brownie then?
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
SO 9.43 times 1.58 gives you 14.8-14.5 not 15.90's or mid to high 16's.

A 9.42 1/8 w/ a 1.58 short time???? O.K now I do believe that anything can happen in a street race but I run a 9.19 on 2.08 60ft bone stock. Your top-end can't be that hot so I say let's get a 1/4 mile time here. I think you'll **** yourself when you see the timeslip. Looking at that E.T. and that 60ft your story aint adding up as far as any LT1 you've run being in good running shape. Those cars might have needed tune-ups,the driver mod etc ,but you would have an advantage over a car with issues like those in a street race. Your 60ft shows that.Like I said earlier It will be a nightmare at the track for you especially in the 1/4 mile.
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:58 AM
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Apparently you didn't understand what he said. He was not saying he had a 1.58 60' time. He was saying to MULTIPLY your 1/8 mile time by 1.58 to get a projected 1/4 mile time.
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So what was the 1/8 mile time? My LT1 VERT ran a 8.74 with a horrible 2.18 60' (first time at the track) in the 1/8th with just intake and exhaust...
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
So what was the 1/8 mile time? My LT1 VERT ran a 8.74 with a horrible 2.18 60' (first time at the track) in the 1/8th with just intake and exhaust...
He said that his 305 with a 2800 stall and 3.42's as his only mods ran 9.4 @ 76 with a 2.0 60'. Then he wanted to use math to try and prove his car was capable of mid 14's.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:19 PM
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Ya...I don't think so. I'll be looking out for the vid though
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Apparently you didn't understand what he said. He was not saying he had a 1.58 60' time. He was saying to MULTIPLY your 1/8 mile time by 1.58 to get a projected 1/4 mile time.
My bad I'm with you now I knew that 1.58 sounded familier
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
So what was the 1/8 mile time? My LT1 VERT ran a 8.74 with a horrible 2.18 60' (first time at the track) in the 1/8th with just intake and exhaust...
That was the only time I went to the track but mine is slug til 3rd gear. I'm looking forward to getting a 1/4 E.t have'nt had the time yet.
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Honestly I think is better to IGNORE the 305 BS and fuggedaboutit..!LOL!!

At least it was a good laugh!!!!
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:05 PM
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What the hell is a WS7?
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305ho , you started this bullshit by claiming your SSSSSSTTTTTTOOOOOCCCCCKKKKK 86 305 beats LT1s .


and it is rated at the flywheel ......stock REARwheel 160 at best AND mid 16s 1/4 mile.

and I know about the timing issue, read my first response to you.

the rude responses your getting could have been avoided if you did not post BULLSHIT.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:40 PM
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I dont post bull **** my car really did beat some stock lt1 cars i was just using it as an example to compare the ls1 to an lt1. Maybe some of them did need tune up's but my car ran a hell of a lot better than any stock 305 around. Yea it was a good laugh wasnt it.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
Honestly I think is better to IGNORE the 305 BS and fuggedaboutit..!LOL!!

At least it was a good laugh!!!!

You know what?
I think you need to sell your T/A and go hang out on the SRT forums where all the smart *** are.
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Originally Posted by NightWindDriftr
This turned into a request for a vid of stock LT1 and LS1 going heads-up, then turned into a debate as to which engine makes more torque down low, and has now turned into 305 bashing.

I have an '86 TA with a 305. No offense, but I doubt your car can take a (equally modded) LT1. You have a better chance with an L98, but I'd STILL doubt it. Swap in 4.10s and cam it all you like.. you're just trying to teach an old DOG new tricks. Your best bet is saving your mod money to do an engine swap. Like I said, I have a 305 and I understand what it's like to be ragged on. After all, with the L98 in existence, we have NO excuse (save a few hundred dollars) to NOT get a 350 over the lethargic LG4 or any other variation of the POS 305.

Back on "topic" ( ) I had a '94 TA, A4 with 2.73s. Judging by SOTP, it outlaunched my current A4 2.73 LS1 for the first 30mph. Again, that's SOTP; I'm not claiming that my LT1 was faster.


Ow yea man, i am looking out for a 99-02 T/A
im trying to get one by late summer. I love those cars. Im short for cash now so i just had to build what i had. With the money i had buying a 350 would have not make my car any faster than it was. Im posting a vid on here in a little while of my car running down the road.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
What the hell is a WS7?
LOL WS7
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
LOL WS7
Its a trans-am with the ws-6 package added on by the buyer of the car and not GM.

or

they bought the badge.

Why do you keep responding anyway? There is a reason why the fastest 305 is only running like low 12s.

Upgrade to a 327/350 block and call it a day.
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I think we've had enough ignorance for the day (and for the month).
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