Supra VS. TRANS AM
02-12-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BTNH
The Ls1 Can Never Lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
02-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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the supra has 100 more hp without the nitrous! So with chris not having any nitrous it will be hard for him to win! If chris "1FastTransAM get nitrous then he will win! But this N/A Trans Am vrs a 29 or more lbs of boost with basicly 3 power adders 
Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win 
Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win 
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Originally Posted by BTNH
8 > 6 its that simple people !!!!!!!!!! You can make a V6 mustang the same as a supra if you wanted to, theres a reason why they call it the poopra!!!! No offense fear.
Dude are u smoking crack.. I would own that and a few other Supras around here in a heart beat.. Hell I would own one period before I owned a mustang esp a V6 one. Now a 04 Cobra and we MAY have a different story.. But I would still take Fearsums Supra over a supped up Cobra anyday.
02-12-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DansRedz28
the supra has 100 more hp without the nitrous! So with chris not having any nitrous it will be hard for him to win! If chris "1FastTransAM get nitrous then he will win! But this N/A Trans Am vrs a 29 or more lbs of boost with basicly 3 power adders Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win
Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win On the track hell yeah I would need Spray.. I am hoping it wont be to bad on the streets when we get a TRUELY good run. I will get spray but not till I get my rear end and a roll bar. and a TRACK... till then no real point in doing so.
02-12-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BTNH
8 > 6 its that simple people !!!!!!!!!! You can make a V6 mustang the same as a supra if you wanted to, theres a reason why they call it the poopra!!!! No offense fear.
You are retarded. It is definitely not that simple. The inline configuration is extremely powerful. Why do you think almost ALL heavy duty diesels are I6?
02-12-2007, 03:56 PM
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Dude I so hope that was a joke. I love my LS car but they are not unbeatable.
02-12-2007, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Yank out the LSX and put in a SRT-4 motor and you will be God!
sweet id be super slow then... YES and it would be a NEON now
02-12-2007, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadder
You are retarded. It is definitely not that simple. The inline configuration is extremely powerful. Why do you think almost ALL heavy duty diesels are I6?
Look at all the older GM and Ford Inline 6's. They were huge (anywhere from 4.0-5.0 liters) for a 6 banger and were indestructible. Yet they could never get as much power out of those as you could a V8. Hence the reason they were the base engines. V8's just make more power and torque with similar displacement.
Build up both a 4.6 Ford V8 and a Supra I6. With the same mods and boost, the V8 will always make more power. There is no replacement for displacement and cylinder count, simple as that.
02-12-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by USA-1
Build up both a 4.6 Ford V8 and a Supra I6. With the same mods and boost, the V8 will always make more power. There is no replacement for displacement and cylinder count, simple as that.
02-12-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by USA-1
Diesels are a different ballgame. Large I6's produce great torque, but don't like to rev. Perfect for a truck. The Supra engine is neither huge nor torquey, so no advantage.
Look at all the older GM and Ford Inline 6's. They were huge (anywhere from 4.0-5.0 liters) for a 6 banger and were indestructible. Yet they could never get as much power out of those as you could a V8. Hence the reason they were the base engines. V8's just make more power and torque with similar displacement.
Build up both a 4.6 Ford V8 and a Supra I6. With the same mods and boost, the V8 will always make more power. There is no replacement for displacement and cylinder count, simple as that.
Look at all the older GM and Ford Inline 6's. They were huge (anywhere from 4.0-5.0 liters) for a 6 banger and were indestructible. Yet they could never get as much power out of those as you could a V8. Hence the reason they were the base engines. V8's just make more power and torque with similar displacement.
Build up both a 4.6 Ford V8 and a Supra I6. With the same mods and boost, the V8 will always make more power. There is no replacement for displacement and cylinder count, simple as that.
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Originally Posted by DansRedz28
the supra has 100 more hp without the nitrous! So with chris not having any nitrous it will be hard for him to win! If chris "1FastTransAM get nitrous then he will win! But this N/A Trans Am vrs a 29 or more lbs of boost with basicly 3 power adders Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win
Turbo, meth/alcohol and Nitrous! So You need some N20 to win
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I no its isnt a power adder like boost or N20 but it still is a 3rd thing that makes it so you can add alot more power! So when using meth to be able to raise boost dosnt it add power? And you have to use it anything over 15lbs of boost. ! Hell going from 15lbs to 28lbs its a huge difference! Have you even dynoed 15psi with nothing else? If so was it in the 400hp range?
And you have to use it anything over 15lbs of boost. ! Hell going from 15lbs to 28lbs its a huge difference! Have you even dynoed 15psi with nothing else? If so was it in the 400hp range?
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Originally Posted by FEARSM
He also said the V6 mustang can be built like the Supra. Guess you believe that too.
Whats funny is the Mustang V6 can be built "like a Supra". Your Supra isn't come kind of god of all cars or engines, its just an I6 thats built for boost. There are plenty of boosted V6 Mustangs making tons of power with forged internals. You import trolls don't have a clue, you think its its not Japanese than it can't make power with boost. Get a clue.
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Originally Posted by USA-1
I wasn't agreeing with anyone. In fact I was slightly disagreeing with the person I quoted. Read before you post.
Whats funny is the Mustang V6 can be built "like a Supra". Your Supra isn't come kind of god of all cars or engines, its just an I6 thats built for boost. There are plenty of boosted V6 Mustangs making tons of power with forged internals. You import trolls don't have a clue, you think its its not Japanese than it can't make power with boost. Get a clue.
Whats funny is the Mustang V6 can be built "like a Supra". Your Supra isn't come kind of god of all cars or engines, its just an I6 thats built for boost. There are plenty of boosted V6 Mustangs making tons of power with forged internals. You import trolls don't have a clue, you think its its not Japanese than it can't make power with boost. Get a clue.
secondly he didnt even say that at all. Hell we know Camaro SS, Corvette with tons of boost. What is being said which looks better and handles better the mustang or supra??????? mmmmm The Supra. And as bad as I hate to admit it there are some reall bad Japanese *** Japanese cars. I am all about American made cars that are made in Canada or Mexico, but there are some really nice and fast cars not made here. And because its AMERICAN muscle doesnt always mean its fast.. Hell look at a v8 base model mustang slow as ****. so if your gonna hijack this thread then
02-12-2007, 04:46 PM
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Like Ced said, its not a power adder, nor does it make power. All the methanol does is make him safely run more boost on pump gas. The same could be done not running any methanol, but running race gas. Like he said its the extra boost, which he could attain anyway (with race gas) that is making the power.
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Originally Posted by FEARSM
My methanol is NOT a power adder. Its the same thing as running high octane race gas. It just allows me to run higher boost on pump gas. It only comes on when I go over 15 lbs of boost. Its the addition boost that gives me more power. Without it I would be running 15 psi on pump gas. With it I can run up to 26-28 psi.
You need methanol injection just to get your car to run a 10.7 @ 124MPH...and the N/A Vette traps higher that that stock.
Theres a vid of one running 10.8 @ 129MPH. And you've probably dumped more money into that Supra than a new Z06 costs.
It just proves American > Imports, when will you import fanboys learn...