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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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I see you added the Junkmaro to the sig Roe. haha I miss that old piece of crap. Those rims look very familiar too. hmmmmm I wonder where you got them. And don't put M5 above it, it was an auto.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Fox-body is still the best platform for going fast for cheap. There is no better bang for the buck, unless you just happen across a freak good deal.
Pushrods in general are prolly the best bang for the buck platform to start out cheap on. You can find fox body Mustangs for less than 3k that are still in good quality/condition. LT1's that are good quality/condition for less than 5k. LS1's that are still good quality/condition for under 7k. Pushrods are the best bang for the buck if somebody wants to buy a "cheap" car and build it up. Those are 3 of the most common pushrods built on great platforms.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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id take the ls1 first choice ofcourse, then the lt1...then the 5.0 last.....and i mean LAST
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingsnake99
id take the ls1 first choice ofcourse, then the lt1...then the 5.0 last.....and i mean LAST
Me too but since I'm suffering from no money and I have to go with what I can get when my car sells I'm going LT1, I don't care how cheap the fox body is, they're still ugly and I'm a GM guy.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Me too but since I'm suffering from no money and I have to go with what I can get when my car sells I'm going LT1, I don't care how cheap the fox body is, they're still ugly and I'm a GM guy.
prolly cuz youre a little bitch...haha
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingsnake99
prolly cuz youre a little bitch...haha
You win, you always do. I just thought of this. We should put pics of the sweet *** 87 in our sigs from that one day. LOL
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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i would go ls1, 5.0, then the lt1 .. now let me explain. Ls1 way to bad *** of a motor to not chose 1st. then 5.0 because there a dime a dozen and with a aluminum top end big cam and nitrous can be a monster to deal with due to the fact they dont weight much and they are cheap as hell to build.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
I can't agree or disagree with anyone. I dipped into the 12 sec realm "12.89" with dr's, intake exhaust, 410's and a great tune. It is not impossible. If anyone says GT an immediate "any LSx will walk it" takes over the forum. My SS can't touch my 02 GT NOW. NO spray and no FI. Good suspension work and lots of practice at the wheel. 12.48 @ 109 to be exact. People think that once you buy a "fast Car" it will go as fast as Motor Trend said it will. All of the reports say an 00-04 GT will hit 14.0-14.1. MY first time out was a 14.8, and I thought that that was a good run while I was going down the track.

I can't see how a V-6 will see 230+ with no nitrous or blower. There is no such thing as a factory freak either. The tolerances are so tight that any error in production will be caught by the computer during testing and the engine will be disassembled. Factory freaks were in the 60's when most of the engine parts were still manually produced. So there goes that theory. So either the V-6 is FI or I call BS. P.S. I owned a 99 Z24 5m. No way even up to 60 will it even run with a well driven GT. But they are quick. I think that most of these races in the Kill section are pretty far fetched anyways. Like a good fishing story. Still fun to read though.

Kingsnake.....Your car should be in the 12's no problem. Keep practicing and they will come with the setup you have. Your 99 has the same motor as the Mach 1 ...they went 13.0-13.2 from the factory.

O wouldlnt go as far to say theres no such thing as a factory freak becuase i have seen one in person. My friend has a 03 GT which had a catback, h pipe, 4:10's (not that it matters) and a tune. With the tune and only those mods it put down 333 rwhp and 348 ftlbs. my car has more bolt ons and mods than that and after a stout tune it only made 294 rwhp and 337 ftlbs. thats freakish .
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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That 333/348 had to either be a malfunctioning dyno, or your friend accidentally put in a 5.0 Cammer. That not a "freak".... that is literally impossible.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by greysteel_M6
The "stick" mach's have the same motor, the autos have a grand less redline and do not come with forged bottom ends.
You're right, but like I said, I didn't feel the need to go that much in detail about it because the thread would just get off topic...

But it's off topic now anyways

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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I swore the stick machs came with a forged crank but not the forged pistons and other goodies that came with the terminators and the auto came with the non-forged crank?
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
That 333/348 had to either be a malfunctioning dyno, or your friend accidentally put in a 5.0 Cammer. That not a "freak".... that is literally impossible.
not a malfunctioning dyno. tuning was all done at dez racing in seakonk MA. Dez racing is also where a good majority of the ls1 guys around here take their car. 1st baseline run put out 260 horse (very high for the car anyway) then dez went to town with his laptop and kept gettin more and more out of it. he spent like 3 hours tuning this car because he was shocked at what the car was doing. call me a liar if you want im not here tryin to blow sunshine up ur as$. Im simply stating what happend
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
call me a liar if you want im not here tryin to blow sunshine up ur as$. Im simply stating what happend
thats hilarious
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
i would go ls1, 5.0, then the lt1 .. now let me explain. Ls1 way to bad *** of a motor to not chose 1st. then 5.0 because there a dime a dozen and with a aluminum top end big cam and nitrous can be a monster to deal with due to the fact they dont weight much and they are cheap as hell to build.
Ok I guess I'd be fine with a 5.0 but just as long as it's not a fox body because they still look absolutely disgusting. I'd have to have a 94 or 95 Cobra or GT to get the 5.0 and those are still not cheap because Mustangs are overpriced so it's LT1 for me.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
I swore the stick machs came with a forged crank but not the forged pistons and other goodies that came with the terminators and the auto came with the non-forged crank?
No, you are right. Stick Machs = forged crank. Autos = cast crank.

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tspence45
Ok I guess I'd be fine with a 5.0 but just as long as it's not a fox body because they still look absolutely disgusting. I'd have to have a 94 or 95 Cobra or GT to get the 5.0 and those are still not cheap because Mustangs are overpriced so it's LT1 for me.
i see your point 94-95 cobras or even a gts for that matter tend to be overpriced. when i used cheap i mean finding an old 4 cylinder notchback that a grandmother owned dropin a 5 litre in it and goin from there. a buddy of mine baught a 93 notchback from some older lady in the town he lived in for 100 bucks. car was in mint shape no rot, rust, nothing. dug up an 5.0 threw it in and beat the bad out of it for a season. then the year after he put in a 306 h/c/i combo and the thing went real good for the money he spent. talking under 5 grand for everything. never got it to the track ended up selling it but for the money the thing was nuts. you might be able to do the same with an lt1 i dont really kno much about them so thats why i like the 5.0 end of things
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
i see your point 94-95 cobras or even a gts for that matter tend to be overpriced. when i used cheap i mean finding an old 4 cylinder notchback that a grandmother owned dropin a 5 litre in it and goin from there. a buddy of mine baught a 93 notchback from some older lady in the town he lived in for 100 bucks. car was in mint shape no rot, rust, nothing. dug up an 5.0 threw it in and beat the bad out of it for a season. then the year after he put in a 306 h/c/i combo and the thing went real good for the money he spent. talking under 5 grand for everything. never got it to the track ended up selling it but for the money the thing was nuts. you might be able to do the same with an lt1 i dont really kno much about them so thats why i like the 5.0 end of things
Yeah if I really wanted a 5.0 I'd go buy the one I found the other day on Mustangforums.com. It was a 94 GT w/ a 306 for $2000 but it had been in a little collision and needed a new front clip and the air bags replaced and a new rim. I just didn't want to deal with doing that work to it because I heard that it costs a lot for air bags.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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good idea. im for one not a big fan of having anything to do with a car that had its airbags blown out anyway. with a hit like that theres no tellin what could be affected by that
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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I'm not calling you a liar. I'm saying something was up with the dyno. An LS1 with just exhaust would be lucky to pull those numbers. An N/A Cobra with those mods wouldn't pull those numbers. It is just simply not possible for a GT. That's like taking a stock Suburban to the dragstrip, having 13.7 show up on the clock, and believing it...
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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im telling you right now there was nothing up w/ the dyno. Dez spent 3 hours tuning the car because he couldnt beleive the numbers he was getting out of it. ( THIS IS WHAT DEZ DOES FOR A LIVING). When he tuned my car it took him about 45minutes to an hour.
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