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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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You have some things to learn. I know of a BONE STOCK SS that ran 12.85 at 113
i dont have to learn anything...thats just a fast car...he got his moneys worth
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Ok... well then let's see your dynosheet.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
no dr's, completely stock. M6, with a 2.0x 60'. Although he ran the block and it's an LS6 block, but I don't think that adds power or anything
The LS6 block is 10% stronger with thicker bores and gives it anywhere from 15-25 more horsepower than the regular LS1 block. Here look at the description in this auction for a Trans Am, it explains it in the first few sentences. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem. So that's not your average stock SS.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tspence45
The LS6 block is 10% stronger with thicker bores and gives it anywhere from 15-25 more horsepower than the regular LS1 block. Here look at the description in this auction for a Trans Am, it explains it in the first few sentences. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem. So that's not your average stock SS.
good find
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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If it had ~20rwhp more, then that means it would have probably been around a 13.0 bone stock. Still very quick. And still no dynosheet
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If it had ~20rwhp more, then that means it would have probably been around a 13.0 bone stock. Still very quick. And still no dynosheet
ill have to give them a call tomorrow and see if they still have...i dont even remember them giving me a sheet...we just read off the monitor but ill see what i can do
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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I can't agree or disagree with anyone. I dipped into the 12 sec realm "12.89" with dr's, intake exhaust, 410's and a great tune. It is not impossible. If anyone says GT an immediate "any LSx will walk it" takes over the forum. My SS can't touch my 02 GT NOW. NO spray and no FI. Good suspension work and lots of practice at the wheel. 12.48 @ 109 to be exact. People think that once you buy a "fast Car" it will go as fast as Motor Trend said it will. All of the reports say an 00-04 GT will hit 14.0-14.1. MY first time out was a 14.8, and I thought that that was a good run while I was going down the track.

I can't see how a V-6 will see 230+ with no nitrous or blower. There is no such thing as a factory freak either. The tolerances are so tight that any error in production will be caught by the computer during testing and the engine will be disassembled. Factory freaks were in the 60's when most of the engine parts were still manually produced. So there goes that theory. So either the V-6 is FI or I call BS. P.S. I owned a 99 Z24 5m. No way even up to 60 will it even run with a well driven GT. But they are quick. I think that most of these races in the Kill section are pretty far fetched anyways. Like a good fishing story. Still fun to read though.

Kingsnake.....Your car should be in the 12's no problem. Keep practicing and they will come with the setup you have. Your 99 has the same motor as the Mach 1 ...they went 13.0-13.2 from the factory.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
I can't agree or disagree with anyone. I dipped into the 12 sec realm "12.89" with dr's, intake exhaust, 410's and a great tune. It is not impossible. If anyone says GT an immediate "any LSx will walk it" takes over the forum. My SS can't touch my 02 GT NOW. NO spray and no FI. Good suspension work and lots of practice at the wheel. 12.48 @ 109 to be exact. People think that once you buy a "fast Car" it will go as fast as Motor Trend said it will. All of the reports say an 00-04 GT will hit 14.0-14.1. MY first time out was a 14.8, and I thought that that was a good run while I was going down the track.

I can't see how a V-6 will see 230+ with no nitrous or blower. There is no such thing as a factory freak either. The tolerances are so tight that any error in production will be caught by the computer during testing and the engine will be disassembled. Factory freaks were in the 60's when most of the engine parts were still manually produced. So there goes that theory. So either the V-6 is FI or I call BS. P.S. I owned a 99 Z24 5m. No way even up to 60 will it even run with a well driven GT. But they are quick. I think that most of these races in the Kill section are pretty far fetched anyways. Like a good fishing story. Still fun to read though.

Kingsnake.....Your car should be in the 12's no problem. Keep practicing and they will come with the setup you have. Your 99 has the same motor as the Mach 1 ...they went 13.0-13.2 from the factory.
thanks for the confidence boost...im just so worried that i wont get into the 12's...im afraid to start talking my car up and then flop at the track
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tspence45
The LS6 block is 10% stronger with thicker bores and gives it anywhere from 15-25 more horsepower than the regular LS1 block. Here look at the description in this auction for a Trans Am, it explains it in the first few sentences. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem. So that's not your average stock SS.

I really don't think that there was a horsepower difference, in the cars that had the LS6 block. That guy is just talking the car up more for someone to pay that kinda price. You still have the same bore size in the LS6 as you do all the prior LS1's. Correct me if I am wrong guys, but I truley don't think that is the case.

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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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i think this place will solve everything
http://www.answers.com/topic/gm-ls-engine
it talks about how ls1's have dynoed between 288-382 hp...kinda of a big margin but id believe it from what ive heard from different people...that may explain why some people can dip into 12's and others have trouble getting mid 13's...any other ideas?
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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There is a lot at stake when you race, like what tires you run, the temp, The driver. You know what I mean. So it really depends on how your car will hook and what kinda driver you are. I might be able to run a 13.0 flat, and someone else that weights about the same as me get in my car, and run either a faster time or a slower time. I am trying to look up some tech info on the LS6 block being in the F-bodys, I think I have read some where on here awhile back about this same topic, and there was no difference, besides, it being a stonger block.

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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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well whatever you find...keep us posted
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's
I can't agree or disagree with anyone. I dipped into the 12 sec realm "12.89" with dr's, intake exhaust, 410's and a great tune. It is not impossible. If anyone says GT an immediate "any LSx will walk it" takes over the forum. My SS can't touch my 02 GT NOW. NO spray and no FI. Good suspension work and lots of practice at the wheel. 12.48 @ 109 to be exact. People think that once you buy a "fast Car" it will go as fast as Motor Trend said it will. All of the reports say an 00-04 GT will hit 14.0-14.1. MY first time out was a 14.8, and I thought that that was a good run while I was going down the track.

I can't see how a V-6 will see 230+ with no nitrous or blower. There is no such thing as a factory freak either. The tolerances are so tight that any error in production will be caught by the computer during testing and the engine will be disassembled. Factory freaks were in the 60's when most of the engine parts were still manually produced. So there goes that theory. So either the V-6 is FI or I call BS. P.S. I owned a 99 Z24 5m. No way even up to 60 will it even run with a well driven GT. But they are quick. I think that most of these races in the Kill section are pretty far fetched anyways. Like a good fishing story. Still fun to read though.

Kingsnake.....Your car should be in the 12's no problem. Keep practicing and they will come with the setup you have. Your 99 has the same motor as the Mach 1 ...they went 13.0-13.2 from the factory.
Well the 2000+ Z24's are a tiny bit more powerful and a tiny bit faster, but as I said before, the GT was not well driven. To give you an example of how bad the driver is. He has a 96 Cobra that's bored .20 over, has a racing clutch, intake, exhaust and 4.10's and he's still yet to run better than a 14.4 in it. The car should've ran that stock.
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I will, And if you want go to the LS1-LS6 Internal section and I have started a thread up there containing the info we are looking for.

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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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i jumped over there as well
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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When did this become a Mustang Forum?? i love a good mustang but would never own one unless its a fox body 5.0
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnFrazee02SS
When did this become a Mustang Forum?? i love a good mustang but would never own one unless its a fox body 5.0
5.0's=garbage....fox body=ugly
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Kingsnake99
5.0's=garbage....fox body=ugly
agreed
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Fox-body is still the best platform for going fast for cheap. There is no better bang for the buck, unless you just happen across a freak good deal.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Fox-body is still the best platform for going fast for cheap. There is no better bang for the buck, unless you just happen across a freak good deal.
as much as i hate to admit this...you have a good point...and i agree with you
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