I don't think anyone is debating that (at least I hope not )

It's 2007 now and a lot of mid size sedans are running low 14's and in the 13's. It's insulting to think there are a lot of 4 doors that can run with a stock LS1. A stock LS1 just isn't impressive anymore, that's why we mod them. 11's are very quick but you're not exactly king of the road in an 11 second car either, there are plenty of imports, mustangs and such driving around that can still hand you your ***. There are at least 3 single digit LS1 street cars in my ZIP code, I consider them pretty damn fast.

 

I asked you what was fast and you said...
Im just going to quote all this so everyone can read it twice.

 

No matter what you run usually someone else has more money and more time. It actually is very easy to go 9's if you have the money in any car. It simply involves writing a check!

My C5 runs high 11.9X @ 119~ mph N/A and a fastest time of 11.1X @ ~126 mph on the bottle. (with the old tranny and stall) and I consider it fast. But a friend of mine runs an 03 KB 5.0 Stroker Cobra and my car to him N/A is slow.

My personal goal is mid 10's which isn't hard since I am only running a 100 shot right now but part of me says screw it and get a Procharger and spray on top of that rather than running a bigger shot.

 

Yes, SRT4's (Street and Racing Technology), with Turbo 4 bangers, WRX's with Turbo 4 bangers and sedans with huge V8's. Lets not forget the big 6's too.


No way?! Not the almighy LS1 with 300hp!

So someone with a 2002 T/A WS6 6 Speed doesn't have an impressive car according to you because new 4 bangers can run similar times with upgraded turbos', and because sedans with 400hp V8's can keep up too.


You said anything not in the single digits was slow?

Ohh , so thats what this is all about...Ahh damnit, Im not king of the road...

 

I guess a lot of it depends on where you live. My car runs 11’s @124 on street tires and should go probably 10.80’s on ET Streets.

Where I live my car is slow! Around here single digits are becoming the standard for a respectable street car.

 

These days even running 9's won't guarantee that you won't run across something that will send you crying home to momma! Hell my boss is looking at a Ultima GTR 720 and they run 9's from the factory and thats even set up for handling!

 

stock S2K with gears running a 13 flat? you liar. Go over to S2KI.com and see what times these guys are running. Their best mod by far is VAFC (computer tune, lots of $$$$) which gives them up to 20rwhp throughout the power band. Beyond that, there are only a handful that run mid 13's with intake, exhaust, tune, gears, tires. Not many run faster than that.

S2K's are fantastic cars, but they are not drag racers. Auto-cross is their forte.

 

And even in auto-x a modded WRX or STi will give you more in a straight line and still handle better than an S2000. I don't understand the S2000. I would much rather a FD RX-7 or even god forbid a 350Z or EVO.

 

WRX and STi do not handle better than an S2000.

 

Are you saying single digits are not fast? You still haven't showed me where I said 10 seconds was slow.
350hp, but yeah. Pony cars are meant to be faster than most of the competition. At the time of their release, they were. Nowadays...not so much. I still don't see where I said anything not in the single digits was slow. Can I misinterpret what you say and then call you an idiot?
No, not really. When I first bought my car (stock), yeah it was impressive. Impressive to someone used to driving a 4.3L S10. Not so much anymore, now I think it's slow. "4 Bangers" don't need upgraded turbo's to run similar times either. An Evo or STi can do that stock. Look at this thread, it was all about a NATURALLY ASPIRATED "4 banger" that runs 13's...stock. Sedans don't need 400hp V8's either, look at the new IS350, 330i, etc. In a few years even the top model accords will probably be running 13's stock. Maybe you're thinking of SUV's with 400hp V8's, that are running mid 13's, like the Jeep SRT-8 or Trailblazer SS.

 

Apparently you are blind.
Post 46 and 51


I can still take 90% of whats out there.


Do you want me to printscreen the page and circle it for you?
Post 46 and 51

First thier slow, then thier fast...Make up your mind.


[QUOTE=B.W.] "4 Bangers" don't need upgraded turbo's to run similar times either. An Evo or STi can do that stock. Look at this thread, it was all about a NATURALLY ASPIRATED "4 banger" that runs 13's...stock.[QUOTE=B.W.]
The S2000 is an example of newer technology, and those 4 bangers have turbo's to make them 270hp, and they only run 13's because of the AWD, the same AWD thats makes them easy pickens on the highway in stock form.

Once again.... technology and 260+hp V6's make them do this.
The new V8's are 400hp.

Yeah because its got a 400hp V-8 that was originally designed for a car, but they placed it into a babywagon and slapped SS/or SRT on it and some chrome wheels.

The new V-8's like the LS2's and LS7's are 400-500hp, and the new big blocks like the ZZ572 and Z502 are anywhere from 550-750hp.
Listen, I don't know where youre goin with this, but youve tried to change the subject because when I first asked you what you considered fast, (post 46), you replied and said, "single digits" (post 51).

The economy changes due to new technology, and the only reason a Jeep is runnin a 13 is because of technology.
The new Viper is said to be 625hp, and lets not forget the C6 Z06 that runs pretty much 11's out of the box.
But I guess if it aint single digits its slow?

Listen, the whold point of this is to show you "fast" is a point of view and while the majority can agree on what fast is, there is no one with complete say. Especially a little smartass like you.

 

Quite the pissing match in here.

Ok kids...time for the timeout chair.

- sorry, I just had to.

 

I wonder how many more pages this thread has left in it.

 

[QUOTE=burnzilla]Apparently you are blind.
Post 46 and 51



I can still take 90% of whats out there.



Do you want me to printscreen the page and circle it for you?
Post 46 and 51


First thier slow, then thier fast...Make up your mind.


[QUOTE=B.W.] "4 Bangers" don't need upgraded turbo's to run similar times either. An Evo or STi can do that stock. Look at this thread, it was all about a NATURALLY ASPIRATED "4 banger" that runs 13's...stock.Unless you're bigger than 6'4", you're the little one.

What I said exactly:
"What is fast?"
"Single Digits"

What you interpret it as:
"Single Digits, or faster."

Work on your reading comprehension skills, and get back to me.

 

thats subjective to who is driving. Give me a STi and I guarantee I will eat up the average driver in a S2000.

 

Only a Tool such as yourself would say something like that. Are you implying that your a big tuff guy?
Its hard to do when you're responses make you out to be a little internet bitch who can't get his story straight then says how "big" he is with a jest after it like he's somethin bad.


Don't worry, for your sake, the majority of people that read this will forget about it soon enough.

 

Ahh, the high road

 

My friend has a s2k with gears that ran a 13.2. He ran a 13.0 with intake, gears and exhaust. Also, he cant drive for ****

I am racing my car this year. when I say "racing" I mean Im trying to win my class. I need to make it to 6 or more races. I ran a 11.3 last year on stock tires, diff, and trans. This year we have a new motor, diff, drive shaft, axels, and hubs. We should get down to the low 10 or high 9s

 

Examples of no one posting really good times when they should. Human psychology denotes, especially car nuts who have good times simply love to brag. No one is bragging about their good times with gears, so something is fishy if one was to believe your statement;

example 1: http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...011&hl=14+mile

example 2:
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...831&hl=14+mile

example 3: (discussion on 12 sec N/A cars)
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...pic=160851&hl=

example 4:
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php...c=132218&st=50

example 5: (dragtimes.com)
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes

As far as I am concerned, it could be possible for an S2K to hit a low 13 with the right set of tires, VAFC, !cat, intake, and exhaust, but not many if any have done it. Your friend may be the outlier in this statistical analysis, and that happens.

Please if you have some info that can prove me wrong showing at least a few cars that have done this, I would be very much down to research it. There is no data. Congratulations on your car, I wish you the best of luck, and it is much faster than mine, but to conclude our discussion: it is highly unlikely, although minutely plausible that S2K's can run low 13's or better with just gears.

 

Ok... that still doesn't mean the WRX handles better. Just that you can drive above-average.