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The Mustang isn't a muscle car, never was. the term musclecar was coined in the 1960's to describe a mid size car with a a full sized car's engine. Mustangs, Camaros, et, al, have always been pony cars, not musclecars, they may be muscle cars, but they're not musclecars.
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Originally Posted by Randy_W
The Mustang isn't a muscle car, never was. the term musclecar was coined in the 1960's to describe a mid size car with a a full sized car's engine. Mustangs, Camaros, et, al, have always been pony cars, not musclecars, they may be muscle cars, but they're not musclecars.
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I work for a Ford dealer and I had a guy tell me he would take me in the Vette in his GT500. I in my nicest voice told him he would get snapped off! 
He said oh what do you have done, told him I have the same hp in a much lighter car N/A, and a 100 shot for adding insult to injury. He was so adamant that he would win so I just left it at that!
The GT500's have run 12.2@117 at the hands of MM&FF but real world,real driver times are usually in the 12.7-13.0 times. A function of a heavy car on narrow tires.
He said oh what do you have done, told him I have the same hp in a much lighter car N/A, and a 100 shot for adding insult to injury. He was so adamant that he would win so I just left it at that!The GT500's have run 12.2@117 at the hands of MM&FF but real world,real driver times are usually in the 12.7-13.0 times. A function of a heavy car on narrow tires.
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
I work for a Ford dealer and I had a guy tell me he would take me in the Vette in his GT500. I in my nicest voice told him he would get snapped off! He said oh what do you have done, told him I have the same hp in a much lighter car N/A, and a 100 shot for adding insult to injury. He was so adamant that he would win so I just left it at that!
The GT500's have run 12.2@117 at the hands of MM&FF but real world,real driver times are usually in the 12.7-13.0 times. A function of a heavy car on narrow tires.
He said oh what do you have done, told him I have the same hp in a much lighter car N/A, and a 100 shot for adding insult to injury. He was so adamant that he would win so I just left it at that!The GT500's have run 12.2@117 at the hands of MM&FF but real world,real driver times are usually in the 12.7-13.0 times. A function of a heavy car on narrow tires.
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Originally Posted by That_guy
I Heard The Ford Gt Has The Same Engine As The Ford Lightning Is This True
The Ford GT and the Shelby GT500 have the 5.4 DOHC with a S/C
The difference between the GT and GT500 is the block and supercharger.
The heads are the same, but no manley rods like the Terminators.
And BeerformePlz I was talking about the GT500 not the GT
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Originally Posted by germeezy1
but real world,real driver times are usually in the 12.7-13.0 times. A function of a heavy car on narrow tires.
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Well seeing that the guy that got too 12.2@117 is a pro driver with 1,000's of drag strip passes I doubt a reasonably competent driver could get within 2 or 3 tenths of that without a whole lot of seat time.
Plus I deal in real world scenarios who cares what a car will run with all the moon and stars aligned? My question is always if I come up against X car from a dig or a roll can I expect to win. And for me the answer is a GT500 would get launched from a dig and snapped off from a roll.
Plus I deal in real world scenarios who cares what a car will run with all the moon and stars aligned? My question is always if I come up against X car from a dig or a roll can I expect to win. And for me the answer is a GT500 would get launched from a dig and snapped off from a roll.
Originally Posted by germeezy1
BTW to give you some background I work for the enemy (FORD) and have driven a few GT500's.
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Let me quote myself again
Well seeing that the guy that got too 12.2@117 is a pro driver with 1,000's of drag strip passes I doubt a reasonably competent driver could get within 2 or 3 tenths of that without a whole lot of seat time.
Plus I deal in real world scenarios who cares what a car will run with all the moon and stars aligned? My question is always if I come up against X car from a dig or a roll can I expect to win. And for me the answer is a GT500 would get launched from a dig and snapped off from a roll.
Did you ever see that?
Well seeing that the guy that got too 12.2@117 is a pro driver with 1,000's of drag strip passes I doubt a reasonably competent driver could get within 2 or 3 tenths of that without a whole lot of seat time.
Plus I deal in real world scenarios who cares what a car will run with all the moon and stars aligned? My question is always if I come up against X car from a dig or a roll can I expect to win. And for me the answer is a GT500 would get launched from a dig and snapped off from a roll.
Did you ever see that?
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In my old car ('94 Integra GS-R), I got a better time stock than any magazine (or anyone else that I can find) ever got. Every car is different, every track is different, all conditions are different... owners can, and often do, get better times out of their cars than magazines.
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"we pull over and talk and he claims that it was cutting out in first gear and that he should have had me because he has beaten lots of ta's".
Man, this really pisses me off, because 85% of people do this **** now, it used to only be ricers, what happened?
Anyway, good job on humbling him a lil bit.
Man, this really pisses me off, because 85% of people do this **** now, it used to only be ricers, what happened?
Anyway, good job on humbling him a lil bit.
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No ****
My point was the GT500 is hard to launch, and with the best driver pretty much ever its capable of 12.2@ 117.
Its like alot of the EVO and STi guys that get excited by the 0-60 times not realizing how they get them. Not many people do redline clutch drops everyday!
My point was the GT500 is hard to launch, and with the best driver pretty much ever its capable of 12.2@ 117.
Its like alot of the EVO and STi guys that get excited by the 0-60 times not realizing how they get them. Not many people do redline clutch drops everyday!
Originally Posted by beerformeplz
And I guess Chevy couldnt figure it out either because they didnt even try to make an american muscle car. 
