My LT1 is an LS1 killer?
04-06-2007 | 09:08 PM
#81
Teching In
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
i believe that pretty much sums up your actions in this thread.
PS. i'm 20, highschool was not too long ago, i'm currently in college, and my parents do not pay for my car, as much as i would like them to.
and even if his parents DID buy his car, for you to make fun of him because of that only shows jealousy, most likely because your parents were not able to treat you the same way.
PS. i'm 20, highschool was not too long ago, i'm currently in college, and my parents do not pay for my car, as much as i would like them to.
and even if his parents DID buy his car, for you to make fun of him because of that only shows jealousy, most likely because your parents were not able to treat you the same way.
04-06-2007 | 09:30 PM
#82
Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
my wife works her *** off every ******* day.i really hope we meet someday.you are an imiture little ***** just like all your buddies and i have plenty of friends.dont worry your little self.
real men have big wieners....like me and greg...
you do not have a big wiener...
size rules in this thread....respect your bigger inchers!
04-06-2007 | 10:10 PM
#83
Teching In
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Viscious
Don't talk about real men in here...
real men have big wieners....like me and greg...
you do not have a big wiener...
size rules in this thread....respect your bigger inchers!
real men have big wieners....like me and greg...
you do not have a big wiener...
size rules in this thread....respect your bigger inchers!
$10 says he assumes that you are the same person as me because you have one post
04-07-2007 | 03:13 AM
#84
Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
yeah he had the ls1 manifold but the better cam.the cam in the 01 02 cars are the same pos that comes in the truck engine.the record holder SI is a 98 ss the 01-02 cars are not faster nor do they make any more power
04-07-2007 | 08:28 AM
#85
lol @ this thread
If you seriously did dig races and he still lost, then somthing is wrong.
you could easily hit a bad spot in an a4 (like 50) and the m6 torque could hold it down getting a hit perhaps. I'd still think on a nice road in good conditions the ls1 should still come out ahead by a small margin at x speed.
If the a4 was actually driving properly and shifting, I dont see how he could lose this. definately not from a dig with good tires and driving. the roll speeds are the variable IMO.
If you seriously did dig races and he still lost, then somthing is wrong.
you could easily hit a bad spot in an a4 (like 50) and the m6 torque could hold it down getting a hit perhaps. I'd still think on a nice road in good conditions the ls1 should still come out ahead by a small margin at x speed.
If the a4 was actually driving properly and shifting, I dont see how he could lose this. definately not from a dig with good tires and driving. the roll speeds are the variable IMO.
04-07-2007 | 09:17 AM
#86
Originally Posted by FlashLCD33
Yes.. I'm a little punk in high school.
Originally Posted by FlashLCD33
Yes you can change your ip, but not your ISP therefore location (to the extent of my interwebbing knowledge.)
04-07-2007 | 01:56 PM
#87
Originally Posted by The H0ffffffff
HAHA, that's pretty much what i meant to say... thanks Aaron
$10 says he assumes that you are the same person as me because you have one post
$10 says he assumes that you are the same person as me because you have one post
04-07-2007 | 02:22 PM
#88
Staging Lane
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: arizona
Originally Posted by 5_02ls1
my wife works her *** off on the strett courner every ******* night.i really hope we meet someday.you are an imiture little ***** just like all your buddies and i have plenty of friends.dont worry your little self.
04-07-2007 | 02:32 PM
#89
Originally Posted by The H0ffffffff
LMAO
you are a funny man!! If i didn't know any better I'd say you have a little checklist laying next to your computer... probably goes something like this:
INTERWEBS CHECKLIST:
1) read thread dealing with f-bodies
2) call out original poster if outcome doesn't add up with latest Road & Track testing results
3) constantly use horrible grammar, mispell every 10th word
4) make illogical claims of having years and years of experience
5) if they don't believe, introduce past experiences only witnessed by self
6) repeat step 3
7) refuse to be open minded and stick with original argument
8) Road & Track never lies
9) if called out by multiple members against theory, break out the emergency "skill and knowledge" dealing with whatever possible (in this case, internet skills )
10) repeat step 3 and 8
11) if above steps fail, resort to personal attacks and cliche insults such as, but not limited to:
you are a dumb highschooler
your parents bought your car
you never owned any car
you have no friends
12) if THAT fails, the last option is commense E-THUG mode, and calmly express that you would like to meet said members in real life, because you would beat them up. and casually peace out.
you are a funny man!! If i didn't know any better I'd say you have a little checklist laying next to your computer... probably goes something like this:
INTERWEBS CHECKLIST:
1) read thread dealing with f-bodies
2) call out original poster if outcome doesn't add up with latest Road & Track testing results
3) constantly use horrible grammar, mispell every 10th word
4) make illogical claims of having years and years of experience
5) if they don't believe, introduce past experiences only witnessed by self
6) repeat step 3
7) refuse to be open minded and stick with original argument
8) Road & Track never lies
9) if called out by multiple members against theory, break out the emergency "skill and knowledge" dealing with whatever possible (in this case, internet skills
)10) repeat step 3 and 8
11) if above steps fail, resort to personal attacks and cliche insults such as, but not limited to:
you are a dumb highschooler
your parents bought your car
you never owned any car
you have no friends
12) if THAT fails, the last option is commense E-THUG mode, and calmly express that you would like to meet said members in real life, because you would beat them up. and casually peace out.
Nobody can touch certain LS1 owners!
Those things are crazy out of this world fast!
And did you guys know that LT1's runs high 14's?
I didnt know that
04-07-2007 | 05:11 PM
#90
Originally Posted by The H0ffffffff
LMAO
you are a funny man!! If i didn't know any better I'd say you have a little checklist laying next to your computer... probably goes something like this:
INTERWEBS CHECKLIST:
1) read thread dealing with f-bodies
2) call out original poster if outcome doesn't add up with latest Road & Track testing results
3) constantly use horrible grammar, mispell every 10th word
4) make illogical claims of having years and years of experience
5) if they don't believe, introduce past experiences only witnessed by self
6) repeat step 3
7) refuse to be open minded and stick with original argument
8) Road & Track never lies
9) if called out by multiple members against theory, break out the emergency "skill and knowledge" dealing with whatever possible (in this case, internet skills )
10) repeat step 3 and 8
11) if above steps fail, resort to personal attacks and cliche insults such as, but not limited to:
you are a dumb highschooler
your parents bought your car
you never owned any car
you have no friends
12) if THAT fails, the last option is commense E-THUG mode, and calmly express that you would like to meet said members in real life, because you would beat them up. and casually peace out.
you are a funny man!! If i didn't know any better I'd say you have a little checklist laying next to your computer... probably goes something like this:
INTERWEBS CHECKLIST:
1) read thread dealing with f-bodies
2) call out original poster if outcome doesn't add up with latest Road & Track testing results
3) constantly use horrible grammar, mispell every 10th word
4) make illogical claims of having years and years of experience
5) if they don't believe, introduce past experiences only witnessed by self
6) repeat step 3
7) refuse to be open minded and stick with original argument
8) Road & Track never lies
9) if called out by multiple members against theory, break out the emergency "skill and knowledge" dealing with whatever possible (in this case, internet skills
)10) repeat step 3 and 8
11) if above steps fail, resort to personal attacks and cliche insults such as, but not limited to:
you are a dumb highschooler
your parents bought your car
you never owned any car
you have no friends
12) if THAT fails, the last option is commense E-THUG mode, and calmly express that you would like to meet said members in real life, because you would beat them up. and casually peace out.
You sir, are my hero.
HAIL TO THEE!
04-07-2007 | 05:13 PM
#91
Originally Posted by The H0ffffffff
i believe that pretty much sums up your actions in this thread.
PS. i'm 20, highschool was not too long ago, i'm currently in college, and my parents do not pay for my car, as much as i would like them to.
and even if his parents DID buy his car, for you to make fun of him because of that only shows jealousy, most likely because your parents were not able to treat you the same way.
PS. i'm 20, highschool was not too long ago, i'm currently in college, and my parents do not pay for my car, as much as i would like them to.
and even if his parents DID buy his car, for you to make fun of him because of that only shows jealousy, most likely because your parents were not able to treat you the same way.
04-07-2007 | 05:15 PM
#92
Originally Posted by infinitebird
Actually it is rather easy to change the isp you appear to post from by going through a proxy server or vpn connection.
Sorry though, I still don't need to make another account to give myself approval. Looks like everyone in this thread told you off anyways, and I surely don't have SEVERAL accounts.
04-07-2007 | 09:30 PM
#94
11 Second Club
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 606
Likes: 1
From: NY
funny thing about this whole argument (that's been going on since 98') the same Mags, mfr's tests of the two engines, in F-body's show the LS1's outperform the LT1's by a large margin (take this from anywhere you want) a minimum of .5+ in the 1/4.. if those results (your race with the guy in the T/A) are legit you have the quickest LT1 and he has one of the slowest lol....
I don't usually "magazine race", but come on....
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.5 14.8
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Conv. 7.0 15.4
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
my point here is simple.. an LT1 is not catching an LS1 in the same type of car unless something is "too right" or "too wrong" in one or both..
I don't usually "magazine race", but come on....
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.5 14.8
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Conv. 7.0 15.4
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
my point here is simple.. an LT1 is not catching an LS1 in the same type of car unless something is "too right" or "too wrong" in one or both..
Last edited by TonyGXP; 04-07-2007 at 09:36 PM.
04-08-2007 | 12:39 AM
#95
TECH Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
From: Seattle area
Originally Posted by TonyGXP
funny thing about this whole argument (that's been going on since 98') the same Mags, mfr's tests of the two engines, in F-body's show the LS1's outperform the LT1's by a large margin (take this from anywhere you want) a minimum of .5+ in the 1/4.. if those results (your race with the guy in the T/A) are legit you have the quickest LT1 and he has one of the slowest lol....
I don't usually "magazine race", but come on....
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.5 14.8
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Conv. 7.0 15.4
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
my point here is simple.. an LT1 is not catching an LS1 in the same type of car unless something is "too right" or "too wrong" in one or both..
I don't usually "magazine race", but come on....
1993 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.8 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
1995 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.2
1995 Chevrolet Camaro 3800 7.4 15.7
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.5 14.8
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Conv. 7.0 15.4
1993 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk 4.9 13.5
1993 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.1 14.7
1993 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.3 14.8
1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.1
1995 Pontiac SLP Firehawk 5.3 13.9
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 15.1
1995 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.6 14.0
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.3
1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.8l 7.2 15.5 (C&D Jun '97)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.3 13.9 (C&D Jun '98)
1998 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 5.1 13.4
2000 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (WS6) 4.9 13.4
my point here is simple.. an LT1 is not catching an LS1 in the same type of car unless something is "too right" or "too wrong" in one or both..
04-08-2007 | 10:05 AM
#98
Originally Posted by FlashLCD33
Even magazine racing can come out the wrong way.
Really?? How many times I ask?? Look at the list my friend. The times are VERY consistent.....The LS1 are consistently in the mid 13s....the LT1 are in the upper 13 and most in the 14s....stock for stock...same driver, unless a nature disaster occurs during the race, LS1 will always win.....If you are sure your LT1 is a healthy, unmolested specimen, your buddy LS1 had a couple of bad days, some mechanical glitch or he plainly screw it up.....
04-08-2007 | 10:30 AM
#100
Originally Posted by Denom
It's a well known fact that he 01/02 LS1's are faster, and put down more power. This subject has all but been beat to death. The horrible cam you are speaking about was actually more aggressive, not to mention the LS6 intake manifold/LS6 clutch that came on the 01/02 model cars. Also some of the 02's came with LS6 heads.
'98-99 cars had the most aggressive cam...more so than the '01-02's. Some 02's got an LS6 block, not LS6 heads.