Ran my first 99-04 GT Mustang...
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
My best time was a 13.2 with bolt ons, stock suspension, Nitto DR's and a (I think it was ) 2.2 60'.....this quote is from the quickest NA 4.6 on the site......he is still all motor and I think he runs high 11's now but he has a lot of work done
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lol, these are always my favorite threads.
Say a Mustang GT hits a 12.999, with full-bolt ons and slicks. Just say it is possible and it actually happens, who the **** cares? 12.999@ 105 mph isn't anything special with full bolt-ons...so even if you prove your point who the **** cares? It's LS1tech, not Slowass2vmustangtech
Say a Mustang GT hits a 12.999, with full-bolt ons and slicks. Just say it is possible and it actually happens, who the **** cares? 12.999@ 105 mph isn't anything special with full bolt-ons...so even if you prove your point who the **** cares? It's LS1tech, not Slowass2vmustangtech
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Well I'd say quite a few people care, based on this thread. And I also would figure that most car guys would like to have CORRECT information about cars they might potentially race, so I can't let them think that a bolt-on/geared/DR 99-04 GT is slower than it actually is. So yeah... I argue when I know I'm right.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well I'd say quite a few people care, based on this thread. And I also would figure that most car guys would like to have CORRECT information about cars they might potentially race, so I can't let them think that a bolt-on/geared/DR 99-04 GT is slower than it actually is. So yeah... I argue when I know I'm right.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well I'd say quite a few people care, based on this thread. And I also would figure that most car guys would like to have CORRECT information about cars they might potentially race, so I can't let them think that a bolt-on/geared/DR 99-04 GT is slower than it actually is. So yeah... I argue when I know I'm right.
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
you should get some seat time in your car at the track. it would make it a lot easier to back up your arguments.
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
I know how fast a bolt-on/geared/DR 99-04 GT is. NOT FAST AT ALL. They don't run 12's, end of story. Whoever ran 12's was either spraying and lying to you about it, or had cams they did not know about.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well I'm glad you're the Mustang expert... I don't see why it's so hard to believe a 280-290rwhp car that weighs 3400lbs and has 4.10s can run 12s with drag radials.
BTW - I don't consider an 'upper plenum' a bolt on. That's an aftermarket intake, which is basically at least a port job, and goes along with head work.
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
you should get some seat time in your car at the track. it would make it a lot easier to back up your arguments.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
It's more than just peak hp though....I agree that a 2V bolt on (full bolt on) with DRs can hit high 12s. But, just remember, it's not just power..it's how and where the power is made (TQ/HP alike).
BTW - I don't consider an 'upper plenum' a bolt on. That's an aftermarket intake, which is basically at least a port job, and goes along with head work.
BTW - I don't consider an 'upper plenum' a bolt on. That's an aftermarket intake, which is basically at least a port job, and goes along with head work.
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^^^if you are running 9's in the 1/8 dont expect low-mid thirteens....you will be dissapointed.....also just to clarify this whole thread I have basically been trying to point out that bolt-on GT's dont normally run 12's......if one does it was a fluke w/ amazing track conditions that dont usually occur......for every legit bolt-on only 2V in the 12's there is probably equal or more stock LS1's in the 12's(meaning it is a rare occurence).....this whole thread it seems to me like you are acting like bolt-on 2V's all run 12's and they just dont...prob 99% of 2V GT's that stay bolt-on only with full weight and DR's will never see 12's...now F-bodies on the other hand will DEFINITELY run 12's with just bolt-ons and the 2 cars just arent in the same league.....
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Oh, I know it's not just about peak power... area under the curve is the most important part. And I'm glad that you agree with me about the 2V/12s thing. But an upper plenum really is just a 5 min job. I don't know what you mean when you say its "basically at least a port job?"
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Holy ****. I think my next project will be a bolt-on 2V stang. I feel sure I can get a 12 sec slip. I love a challenge.
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAwQjA4d8Qw
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
^^^if you are running 9's in the 1/8 dont expect low-mid thirteens....you will be dissapointed.....also just to clarify this whole thread I have basically been trying to point out that bolt-on GT's dont normally run 12's......if one does it was a fluke w/ amazing track conditions that dont usually occur......for every legit bolt-on only 2V in the 12's there is probably equal or more stock LS1's in the 12's(meaning it is a rare occurence).....this whole thread it seems to me like you are acting like bolt-on 2V's all run 12's and they just dont...prob 99% of 2V GT's that stay bolt-on only with full weight and DR's will never see 12's...now F-bodies on the other hand will DEFINITELY run 12's with just bolt-ons and the 2 cars just arent in the same league.....
Maybe both of you came out so head strong on your opinions, you can't really see that you are saying the same thing, only differently.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Holy ****. I think my next project will be a bolt-on 2V stang. I feel sure I can get a 12 sec slip. I love a challenge.
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAwQjA4d8Qw
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
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99 GT $6500
Cold Air intake $159
75mm Upper & TB $289
Upper/Lower control arms $209 (UPR)
Lakewood 90/10 or 70/30's $198/pr
Strange 10 way rear shocks $140/pr
4.10's $200
Off road H or X $159
Cat Back $300
Stage II Cams $625
Springs for Cams $229
SCT Tune with chip or XCal2 $379
Weld Rims/Tires $800 - used
Close to $4000 in mods and they got some 12.4's.....but IMO they should also add in some 33 spline axles, a new differential, and a new clutch, and also a new tranny b/c the T45 isnt gonna last that long.....
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Holy ****. I think my next project will be a bolt-on 2V stang. I feel sure I can get a 12 sec slip. I love a challenge.
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAwQjA4d8Qw
Didn't I see a post from TX hotrods showing a low 12 2V?
Stangs are slow. I wish I were as fast as V8EATR.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
^^^if you are running 9's in the 1/8 dont expect low-mid thirteens....you will be dissapointed.....also just to clarify this whole thread I have basically been trying to point out that bolt-on GT's dont normally run 12's......if one does it was a fluke w/ amazing track conditions that dont usually occur......for every legit bolt-on only 2V in the 12's there is probably equal or more stock LS1's in the 12's(meaning it is a rare occurence).....this whole thread it seems to me like you are acting like bolt-on 2V's all run 12's and they just dont...prob 99% of 2V GT's that stay bolt-on only with full weight and DR's will never see 12's...now F-bodies on the other hand will DEFINITELY run 12's with just bolt-ons and the 2 cars just arent in the same league.....
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Originally Posted by delsold
ya he makes for a good point...what does your bolt on GT run?
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Lets add some more fuel to this fire....I know of a "stock-motored" 2V GT that went 11s. No power adder. No head porting. Stock cams, stock shortblock, just external engine mods.
Wanna internet race to see if I can prove it?
Wanna internet race to see if I can prove it?
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