Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

98 trans am VS 97 Sr20 det 240sx

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-27-2007, 12:20 AM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
ls1chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kentucky
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default 98 trans am VS 97 Sr20 det 240sx

Well seems like the nissan fever has struck my town hardcore latley .I have 5 friends who all got different years of 240sx or 300zx.So finaly a friend gets his car goin after doin the sr20det swap on it and the rumours started flying about how fast it was.So we decided to do a friendly race tonight

So wee pull out of a back road and get on highway and start rolling abou 15mph and i slow down to get even but we couldnt never get side by side to nervous i guess.So im at about his door and he kicks down on it and just hooks and go jumps about 1 1/2 car to 2 on right off the bat were im spinning .I hit second and slow his pull down so i short shift to third to try to quit spiining and start gaining ground and about 85-90 i pass him i shut down and im about 2 cars ahead of him Not bad considering the big jump he got right off the bat .HIs car surprised me it just hooked and went time for me to invest in some nittos. here is he mod list and a pic of his right after the swap

SR20DET engine swap
*GReddy fmic, and 3" exhaust
*HKS intake, turbo timer, boost controller,SSQV blow off valve
*stainless turbo outlet
*Project Nissan downpipe and tespipe
Running 12psi when we raced tonight


And me with cam and intake 365 hp 347 torque .



Old 08-27-2007, 12:24 AM
  #2  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
ls1chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kentucky
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Any you import guys have any clue about what his hp rating would be at.Me and him are good friends we give each other crap all the time bout each others car but i think we respect the work involved on both parts.He has some more mods coming somtime and we will go again ill try to get it on video this time .Hes got a good lilttle sleeper their i think
Old 08-27-2007, 12:40 AM
  #3  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
kennyxg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 229
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Wink

R2d2 motor or what ever you call it with 5k in mods, your cam only ls1 total investment 1,200 if you did it yourself.But dragging his *** priceless!!! j/k I'm sure his car is no push over,nice kill none the less!!
Old 08-27-2007, 12:47 AM
  #4  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
djsanchez2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Simi Valley, CA.
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

He should be at about 245-280hp max. Those stock t25 turbos are only good for 325-350hp. So if he want to make more power he'll have to go bigger. Good **** though. Yeah Time for Nittos. They can be fast cars if modded right.
Old 08-27-2007, 01:12 AM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (9)
 
bboyferal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 3,472
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default



12 psi @ 245-280 whp sounds right to me on a stock/mild SR20 longblock.


I wouldn't mind starting a 240SX/SR20DET project.
Old 08-27-2007, 01:18 AM
  #6  
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
217zenki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by djsanchez2
He should be at about 245-280hp max. Those stock t25 turbos are only good for 325-350hp. So if he want to make more power he'll have to go bigger. Good **** though. Yeah Time for Nittos. They can be fast cars if modded right.
Thats a s14 engine not a s13 so it has a t-28. 350hp on a t-25 is pushing it dont ya think? Its past its efficency around 17-18 tops.. Id say hes sitting around 270-250.. The s14 has variable valve timing t-28 turbo but has a low port head as compared to the s13 engine which comes with a high port head and a t-28.. To tell the difference for future knowledge s13 can come with a red or black valve cover depending on the year of the engine but are exactly the same .. The s14 and s15's have engines have the hump in front of the valve cover.

Last edited by 217zenki; 08-27-2007 at 01:23 AM.
Old 08-27-2007, 02:50 AM
  #7  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
ls1chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kentucky
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

hey guys ya his car is the black top motor if that matters.ya i did all the work to my car myself except the tune just cam intake and exhaust .ya i was pleased with the raise consider he had abotu half car head start then i still pulled him 2 cars and shut it down around a quarter mile .Some tires will benifit me greatly im just trying to decide which brand i want so many out their now a days, Hoosier,BFG,Mt,nittos etc i just need a decent hooking tire that want spin through 3rd gear lol
Old 08-27-2007, 02:52 AM
  #8  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
ls1chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kentucky
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

im sure he has alot more money in that car than i do considerign he baught his car in workign order with a stock ka motor,then got the sr20det motor and ecu thats 3k right their just for the motor and ecu ,then the accesories .But regardless they are fun cars and they dont seem to weigh alot to so power to weight is goin to be great when he upgrades his turbo and goes just a little more boost.Should be a good Friendly rivalry between us lol
Old 08-27-2007, 04:01 AM
  #9  
Launching!
iTrader: (4)
 
217zenki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

2,800lbs curb weight.
Old 08-27-2007, 04:39 AM
  #10  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
djsanchez2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Simi Valley, CA.
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Well w/ n2o you could PUSH a t25 to that but w/o id think 285-300hp MAX. t28 will go 350 w/o n2o and 380 w/ n2o.

sorry all my turbo friends use n2o so i'm used to those est.
Old 08-27-2007, 05:03 AM
  #11  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
BeavermanA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: La Puente, CA
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Good kill. Any idea how much that project cost?
Old 08-27-2007, 10:31 AM
  #12  
Launching!
 
Sparetire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Arizona.
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kennyxg
R2d2 motor or what ever you call it with 5k in mods, your cam only ls1 total investment 1,200 if you did it yourself.But dragging his *** priceless!!! j/k I'm sure his car is no push over,nice kill none the less!!
Exhaust, timer, and IC is maybe 2K. At most. He might have put in 5K if you include the motor.
Old 08-27-2007, 10:50 AM
  #13  
Launching!
 
Sparetire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Arizona.
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I doubt he has 250WHP on only 12PSI. If he had a aftermarket intake manifold and cams maybe. It sounds like he was running more than 12PSI to keep up with a cammed car till 90.

Good kill!

As for more cost info, you can pretty much start with 10K and nothing else and get a great SR20ed 240. The KA can be sold pretty easy, since people are using those in hi-po apps. Decent chassis that are running well cost like 5-6K. Though he has the newer one which IMHO looks much better. That might have been more like 7-8. SR20 motors are like 3K. If you really want to poke into the junk bin, you could probably build a decent stockish one for 1500 yourself.

I would figure total cost is around 10K, minus maybe a grand for the KA24.

Pretty decent bang for buck. Then again, with an LS1 you get a similar performer for a similar price that is a lot easier. Different strokes.
Old 08-27-2007, 12:03 PM
  #14  
TECH Apprentice
 
96ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ft. Carson, Colorado Springs
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ls1chris
Any you import guys have any clue about what his hp rating would be at.Me and him are good friends we give each other crap all the time bout each others car but i think we respect the work involved on both parts.He has some more mods coming somtime and we will go again ill try to get it on video this time .Hes got a good lilttle sleeper their i think
not too much into imports anymore hes probably sitting 260-270 area you also have to remember there is a fairly large weight difference in a ta and a 240sx. my buddy has a fully built sr20 minus a crank and no fmic on a bad t25 but hes got a 2871r that should put him around 320 rwhp with fmic and 12lbs. a stock sr on stock boost runs with a decent driver around a mid 14
Old 08-27-2007, 12:07 PM
  #15  
Teching In
 
SprayinNprayin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: La porte, TX
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

my friend jordan has almost the exact same car and mods but his is s14sr in a s13 coupe and he dynoed 230whp with 12psi so it should be around there.
Old 08-27-2007, 12:08 PM
  #16  
TECH Apprentice
 
96ta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ft. Carson, Colorado Springs
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sparetire
I doubt he has 250WHP on only 12PSI. If he had a aftermarket intake manifold and cams maybe. It sounds like he was running more than 12PSI to keep up with a cammed car till 90.

Good kill!

As for more cost info, you can pretty much start with 10K and nothing else and get a great SR20ed 240. The KA can be sold pretty easy, since people are using those in hi-po apps. Decent chassis that are running well cost like 5-6K. Though he has the newer one which IMHO looks much better. That might have been more like 7-8. SR20 motors are like 3K. If you really want to poke into the junk bin, you could probably build a decent stockish one for 1500 yourself.

I would figure total cost is around 10K, minus maybe a grand for the KA24.

Pretty decent bang for buck. Then again, with an LS1 you get a similar performer for a similar price that is a lot easier. Different strokes.
actually most sr motors and swaps run around 5gs as far as the chasis if you shop around you can find some dirt cheap.
Old 08-27-2007, 10:55 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
 
ls1chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: kentucky
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Hey guys looks like as of now he will be goin to the track friday .So maybe we can get some times out of that lil bugger .Ya i know their a good amont of weight difference their and him hooking as good as he did that were he was able to get me right off the bat .I dont think from a dead stop or with some good tires he will fair so well next time lol .Cuz i cant let my buddy think he can run with me hahah i love to give him hell
Old 08-28-2007, 05:54 AM
  #18  
Teching In
 
dsmdoctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Moody AFB GA
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

get that track time on video!! good kill, hes deffinitly running around 240rwhp. his motor sounds strong, watch out, lol.
Old 08-28-2007, 09:07 PM
  #19  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
AznMuscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Someplace Hot
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I was at a drift even Saturday, and a guy had put a cammed ls1 into an s13 body, completely gutted. That ****** MOVED, and now I'm on the look out for mean sounding 240's lol. We might start seeing more of these swaps, just like the ls1 FD's.
Old 08-28-2007, 09:24 PM
  #20  
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Stopsign32v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 191
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

When my 5.0 was making 328rwhp I pulled on my buddies 240sx with the SR20 swap @ 277rwhp 250rwtq by about 2 carlengths through 3rd and 4th gear. IMO with your power you definately should have pulled alot harder. Your car must weigh ALOT.


Quick Reply: 98 trans am VS 97 Sr20 det 240sx



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 AM.