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Old 09-27-2007, 10:06 PM
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Some of you just dont realize how ******* nasty those awd cars are on the street man, seriously, RWD car with 200+more HP then the AWD losing by CAR LENGTHS is the norm where i go....awd is HARD to mess with on the street
Old 09-27-2007, 10:48 PM
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ok i dont think any1 said anyhting bout them not bein nasty on the street. we r just tryin to help him hook so he can win. since hookin is 50% of the game on the street
Old 09-28-2007, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wants an LS1
Some of you just dont realize how ******* nasty those awd cars are on the street man, seriously, RWD car with 200+more HP then the AWD losing by CAR LENGTHS is the norm where i go....awd is HARD to mess with on the street
There must be some shitty rwd cars where youre at. A rwd car can do the same thing off the line as a awd car if it is setup right.
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move the battery to the back, not much but only advice ive got
Old 09-29-2007, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
There must be some shitty rwd cars where youre at. A rwd car can do the same thing off the line as a awd car if it is setup right.
It's hard to do it on a street that hasn't been prepped though. On the track where the pavement is sticky, a properly setup RWD will outlaunch an AWD car no problem. AWD really starts to shine when the conditions aren't perfect.
Old 09-29-2007, 01:30 AM
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Ok, those who can't read...

He is racing 'at the track', but not a prepped track. In Latvia they do not have 'drag strips', races are run on the street.

And as far as no prep... you need far more power. You'll have to run the AWD cars down.

Fact is, the AWD cars on street tires launch nearly as hard as a drag tire RWD, and on drags to drags, you're just NOT gonna holeshot an AWD. This applies on ANY surface, prepped or not, and may just be amplified on dusty/unprepped surfaces.

I do think you can get better times with drag springs and shock; the Bilsteins are nice for handling, not so much for drag. A 90/10 shock will be much better for launching, but won't handle all that well, and soft springs will launch better too. Try Summitracing.com for 'drag shocks' and 'drag springs'.

If you're able to launch 1.7 or 1.8 for the 60 foot times (are they even timed?), you're doing pretty well.... but you'll need more power to catch the AWD cars, because they are likely pulling 1.3 or 1.4 short times on drags.
Old 09-29-2007, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
There must be some shitty rwd cars where youre at. A rwd car can do the same thing off the line as a awd car if it is setup right.
Really? Do you mean a fully race prepped suspension and 800 hp RWD can holeshot a stock AWD? Probably.... but I wouldn't put MY money on a RWD if both are drag tired and race prepped, and making similar power.

I have a neighnor who runs a 700 or so HP AWD Eclipse... and he commonly sees 1.2 60 foot times. his car is full race and built for it, on drags. VERY seldom do I see similar short times for ANY RWD.
Old 09-29-2007, 09:46 AM
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Thanx every body who has answered, especially to Boodyrider
But I will repeat once again - we're racing on special tracks, but these "special tracks" have pavement worse than on just a good road.
I seriously doubt that owners will allow some treatment on their tracks, but point is taken, I'll keep it in mind.
See this car - it couldn't do even 7.0 seconds in 1/8

http://www.forsaza.eu/pages/ViewImage/l9496/10


So, my suspension setup is good enough, except shocks and springs?
What if I stick some really wide MT Drags in there? Would I be able to put tires so that they stick out of fenders? Now I have some 2.5-3" vertical clearance between tire and fender, will it be enough to not to touch the tire when launching?
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Originally Posted by Boodyrider
If you're able to launch 1.7 or 1.8 for the 60 foot times (are they even timed?), you're doing pretty well....
It's not even timed
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try the MT tires set at 16 psi, give them a nice burnout, and if nobody does it, do it yourself, clean the track
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What about wider tires? Can anyone tell whether they'll fit?
Old 10-01-2007, 10:16 AM
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^ Try the wheel and tire tech forum. I'll bet that info is in a sticky right at the top.
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Get some Hoosier RC4's or M 10's they hook in water so i think they will work for you.. Just buy a set from hoosier and be done with it, you've got a lil susp. work now just get those tires and ill guarantee you will hook.
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What do you think, will Hoosier 28 x 14.5 - 15 slicks fit?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Old 10-15-2007, 02:57 AM
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:47 AM
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if your running on dusty crapy surfaces and cant get it cleaned up, build up a turbo 4x4 full size chevy truck like Parish did and run 10's!
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Watch what the "owners" do to the track. I was at "cough" doing some "racing" back when I had my lt1 car and some douche that drove a evo threw a huge *** thing of baby powder on the "launch pad". He was forced to automatically forfeit by some pissed of guys.

Ditch the m6 and get an a4 with a 4k stall. Problem solved.
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Do you really have a t/a? Or is this some sort of joke?
Old 10-15-2007, 11:26 AM
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Yes I do
And no, I don't want to build 4x4. I want to stay RWD.
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Prep the surface better is all i can say, have you used vht track prep?
+1 on that. are you heating your d/r's up before you launch?


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