Murdered by an Lexus LS460
10-12-2007, 06:46 PM
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Show me proof of ANY stock LS1 putting down 330whp. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that isn't reality, just wishful thinking. More like 305-310rwhp.
10-12-2007, 06:49 PM
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Nice generous dyno. All these great dyno numbers and not single stock LS-1 trapping more than 109mph. Even if one stock LS-1 in the world trapped at 110mph, it still wouldn't dyno 330rwhp.
10-13-2007, 02:24 AM
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dumbass.
10-14-2007, 02:46 AM
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You are retarted. Do you even wanna get into this argument cus Im sure a **** load of LS1 owners will chime in and tell you they made 330whp and trapped 108-110 bone stock!! Please dont come into an argument like this without knowing anything about the subject. Do you dislike ls1s? You seem pretty hostile toward them. Maybe you are just pissed off cus they walk your srt-8 on a regular basis. dumbass.
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10-14-2007, 03:22 AM
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You sure you havent been racing LT1s? A bolt-on ls1 would hand you your ***, but keep thinking what you want. You obviously dont know anything about LS1 cars and it shows.
10-14-2007, 10:53 AM
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10-14-2007, 10:56 AM
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How exactly do you define "stock" anyway? Curious about that.
That LS1 you had was a .01%. Why in the world would you sell it?
It's common knowledge 305-310whp dynos repesented 99% of them. 330whp claim as even representative is absolute BS. I would doubt there is even any at 330whp and no other "stock" ones trapping 110mph, except with a nice, cold 35mph tailwind.
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10-14-2007, 12:37 PM
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EDIT: Searching hear and LS1 Forums, that makes 2 guys trapping at 110mph and one at 111mph (with no muffler, bought used) and none at 330rwhp. All the databases support what I've stated.
How exactly do you define "stock" anyway? Curious about that.
That LS1 you had was a .01%. Why in the world would you sell it?
It's common knowledge 305-310whp dynos repesented 99% of them. 330whp claim as even representative is absolute BS. I would doubt there is even any at 330whp and no other "stock" ones trapping 110mph, except with a nice, cold 35mph tailwind.
How exactly do you define "stock" anyway? Curious about that.
That LS1 you had was a .01%. Why in the world would you sell it?
It's common knowledge 305-310whp dynos repesented 99% of them. 330whp claim as even representative is absolute BS. I would doubt there is even any at 330whp and no other "stock" ones trapping 110mph, except with a nice, cold 35mph tailwind.
10-14-2007, 03:59 PM
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If you run at the perfect track on the perfect day, it's still a legitimate time. What would make it not legitimate? Not talking necessarily a tailwind, but still... and for the record I saw with my own eyes a member on here (JamRWS6) run a 12.99 @ 110mph with just a whisper lid and subframe connectors. He dynoed 333rwhp.
10-14-2007, 09:23 PM
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I never said that 12.99 @ 110mph was the norm. But he was saying that it wasn't possible, and if it happened it was equipment/operator error. And it's not. And I doubt that the whisper lid did much... he might have run a 13.00 @ 109.8mph without it.
10-14-2007, 09:29 PM
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haha just kidding.
10-14-2007, 11:32 PM
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fbody gets killed by a lexus thread is bound to get ugly.
8 speed 380hp car that does 14's is passing an a4 fbody at like 60mph - not good for the fbody guy who wants to stop the pull. hell i have a hard time stopping the pull of a hyundai suv when i mash it at 60mph. its just the a4, not the LS1. i'm sure if they took off at the same time, the fbody would have regained some ground.
8 speed 380hp car that does 14's is passing an a4 fbody at like 60mph - not good for the fbody guy who wants to stop the pull. hell i have a hard time stopping the pull of a hyundai suv when i mash it at 60mph. its just the a4, not the LS1. i'm sure if they took off at the same time, the fbody would have regained some ground.
10-15-2007, 01:12 PM
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10-15-2007, 10:17 PM
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As for the 310-330 being common BS.
It's BS.
About 300 is the norm.
Yeah, 330 is normal too*
*On a dyno jet
*At sea level or with a big correction factor
*With a lid
*On a cold day
*With a factory freak
*01-02 model years
*On an M6
Some cars do make 330WHP more or less stock. No doubt about it. But it's not normal. Its not "common".
310 might be "common" 300 or so definitely is.
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Which means that *GASP* the LS1s in the F-bodies were more less exactly as powerful as the LS1s in the Vettes which were fairly honestly rated at 345HP as opposed to their official Camaro rating of 305HP. Go figure. I dont give a rats *** what some dyno tuner tells you, between 300 and 400WHP, your looking at 40-50 HP driveline loss. No more. Beyond that you're in Supra owner BS land.
It's BS.
About 300 is the norm.
Yeah, 330 is normal too*
*On a dyno jet
*At sea level or with a big correction factor
*With a lid
*On a cold day
*With a factory freak
*01-02 model years
*On an M6
Some cars do make 330WHP more or less stock. No doubt about it. But it's not normal. Its not "common".
310 might be "common" 300 or so definitely is.
Edit:
Which means that *GASP* the LS1s in the F-bodies were more less exactly as powerful as the LS1s in the Vettes which were fairly honestly rated at 345HP as opposed to their official Camaro rating of 305HP. Go figure. I dont give a rats *** what some dyno tuner tells you, between 300 and 400WHP, your looking at 40-50 HP driveline loss. No more. Beyond that you're in Supra owner BS land.
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