BigD 275

I would agree on the drag issue, only if the race was above 130mph. This race wasn't.

Also, if my memory serves me correct, the ZO6 has the 3.42 rear gear as well. Only 1st and 2nd gear are different from the f-body tranny.

I can possibly see the ZO6 pull a car or so, but in that video, it was pulling the T/A really easy.

A H/C/bolt-on F-body can easily trap anywhere between 117 and 124, so that would at worst, put it on par with a strong running stock ZO6.

Lastly, I guess it really doesn't matter.

BLAKE 01 WS6

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a 360ish rwhp zo6 beats a 390ish rwhp f-body from a roll every time......end of story, especially with a bad driver

sidewayz28

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YOU sir, are a f&$(ING idiot. FOR ASSuming that he only weighs 3536 pounds (where did you pull that # out your ***?). you ever think he could have a sound system or something like that? Reason i asked, theres a local WS6 that weighs close to 4000 lbs. nice try
edit: dont mean to be mean. just dont assume stuff. k?

99Blk Z28

The cars can vary quite a bit actually my car with a system and my spare/jack in the car weighed in at 3750 with me in it (I weigh about 150lbs). Although my car is not a T/A but from what i have read they arnt to far off as far as weight goes. 4000lbs though, that sounds closer to GTO territory.

sidewayz28

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true, i was being optimistic. my car weighs in at 3400#s, and 3750 is getting close to a 400lb difference

Asmodeus

I can kinda see it. We had a MS3 cam only car here in chicago trapping 126 in a stalled auto. Matt D on this site is his name. There are many H/C cars trapping in the low 130's stock cubes. 117-118 on a good day from a c5z06 is certainly possible. Stock LS1 F-bodies on a 125 shot are trapping about that, and are 400+ pounds heavier. It's plausible.

Prey4Me

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Yes a stock or intake only C5 ZO6 will walk a 395whp TA. The TA has probably a 15-25rwhp advantage but a 300+lb disadvantage, what so hard to believe? My friend ''Quik ZO6''s '02 ZO6 that dyno'd 37Xwhp has pulled on 2 pullied & ported cobra's making around 480whp by about a half car to a car. She also raced me and I only pulled her about a half car to a car from 50-155mph. Are ''speedinjection''s Z and ''Quik ZO6''s Z freaks or just driven to there true potential? C5 ZO6's are one of the most underestimated cars around, its all about power to weight.

Quik Z06

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^ Lol, I was about to say something and noticed you posted Jarad. People really underestimate Z06's. Our Z06 was dynoing 371/360 with an intake and catback and it was keeping up with some pretty modded cars. I dont know if I still have the vid, but just for comparison's sake. We ran a Z28 making 375whp (ok so what 20hp less than the OP's car?) and walked that guy hard, pretty much a waste of time and gas.

Look at Prey4Me's sig, and our Z with just those 2 things made it a very good race, could have went either way with a slow shift etc, not bad for a catback/intake car.

Killemall

C5Z06's arent underated at all...They were actually one of the most feared cars out their and gave a many *** whoopings ( and really if you look at the specs of a lot of 2008 Sports cars..)The 2002 c5z06 can still be quite competitive...

The only car that was faster than a 2002 Z06 for under 85 grand was the 2002 Viper..And your still only talking 3 tenths and 3 mph. Of course back in 2002 you probally wouldnt see any Vipers or really expensive/fast exotics while out in your speed machine.

But you may be lucky enough to run into the c5z06 and get your *** handed to you.

Weve all seen the vid of the bolt on C5Z06 destroying exotics in the day time vid

Quik Z06

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Lol, not saying their underrated, but most people "underestimate" them.

sidewayz28

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i would like to see what i could do against a stock C5 z06.. it would be an interesting race

Prey4Me

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Oooops! Thats what I meant to say.

camscam02

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i raced a stock Z06 from 50-140 with both us starting in second gear and he beat me by a fender and wasnt even pulling at 140 mph and this was in a bolton m6 TA that dynos 350hp 360 TQ

wierd!

BigD 275

Man, where do you guys come from. Tough talking "internet" chumps.

First off, you talk about not assuming, yet you assume that the f-body weighs 4000lbs??? Who assumes that an F-body has 500 pounds worth of stereo equipment? So, you have 1 f-body that weighs close to 4000lbs and now all f-bodies weigh that. Then you actually say that your car weighs around 3400 pounds. Nice try.

Second, the numbers I quoted were the actual manufacturer curb weights for both cars for model year 2000.

I have seen plenty C5ZO6s run at the track, on the street, etc. I have also driven them as a friend of mine owns one. They are fast cars. Anything that can trap 114-117mph stock is fast. Plain and simple.

But the fact remains, two cars supposedly with about the same power to weight ratio, pretty much identical gearing and the C5ZO6 pulls the T/A easily??? Doesn't make any sense. k?

ScreaminRedZ

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sidewaysZ28, you saw one fbody that weighed close to 4000 lbs and just assume that this one does? Doesn't really make sense to me.

The 31XX and 35XX that BigD posted sound very close to what they should be for both vehicles minus the driver.

sidewayz28

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yep i thought ALL f bodies weighed in at 4000 lbs.. it doesnt really matter he still got walked. end of story

ChocoTaco369

A 4,000 lb f-body? What does he have, every suspension mod known to man, 2 spare tires and a big audio/video system in a convertible model? F-body's weigh 3400-3500 lbs stock. He must have A LOT of extras!

will82

Not this crap again.

If you think it's impossible for an intake/tune z06 to walk a cammed F-body with under 400rwhp like that, you don't know cars.

The z06 is a high 11 second car at the strip if driven properly. It is even better from a roll compared to an F-body(weight AND aero). It also has the m12 transmission, which when mated to 3.42 gears is roughly the equivalent of an m6 with 3.90 gears. A slightly more aggressive cam than the ls6 cam and an extra 30 or so rwhp isn't going to change the outcome of the F-Body getting walked.

will82

The z has been inspected by a GM tech. No hidden n20, no tricks. So you can whine and bitch all you want, but it is as advertised and the video results speak for themselves.

The problem is all the kill stories of F-bodies beating stock c5 coupes that were probably a4 and 2.73 geared, driven by 50yr olds who weren't really racing or still had the traction control on, and people here have got it in their heads that an F-body is an even match or even better than a C5. Sorry, but they are close and pretty even at the strip, but from a roll forget about it. WEIGHT AND AERO.

I used to have a stock, a4, 2.73 geared coupe, and I beat my buddies M6 TransAm routinely from a roll. WEIGHT AND AERO. Once I got up to 80-90mph, I would reel him in and leave him behind by multiple car lengths by 140mph. WEIGHT AND AERO.

The z06 is even lighter, more aggressively geared, better heads, better cam.
With an intake and a good tune about 360rwhp at least. 390rwhp from a little more aggressive cam isn't going to spare the F-Body against the z06 FROM A ROLL, not at the drag strip, where the result would be closer.

Killemall

I was in a local Fbody club here in Hawaii..

My 2.73 geared C5 auto vette tied for first place with a manual WS6 in the quickest bone stock ET catergory...There were well over 10 Fbodies..But my auto 2.73 C5 was still faster than all of them stock to stock at the same drag strip minus the WS6..We were both dead even "only I could run the time almost every time) while it was his PB..


From a roll a yanked a SS Fbody by a few cars from 70-120 mph..My C5 was white and His SS was white and of all my races this is the one that Ill always remember