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01-29-2008, 03:59 AM
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Holy living dogshit batman, why does this always happen? Who seriously cares if its a 4v 4.6 or an LS1 or LS7 for that matter, it doesn't involve VTEC and this makes it good. You guys sound like little kids arguing "oh my dad can eat a house" "oh yeah well my dad can eat a whale". Can't we just admit that both styles of motor have their merits?
Also, IBTL because this has dissolved into ford vs chevy name calling yet again.
Also, IBTL because this has dissolved into ford vs chevy name calling yet again.
01-29-2008, 05:43 AM
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sad thing is, it is a stronger engine which is my point retard.... na to na, ill take an ls1, any mods so long as the internals are stock on both engines, a 4v makes an ls1 its bitch, boost or n20, as strong as an ls1 can be stock under the heads, it cant hang with a 4v, if you can prove otherwise, do it.......
This thread shouldn't last too long, this ford troll is awesome. I doubt he even owns an actual vehicle.
01-29-2008, 05:49 AM
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Are you serious, your wife knows shes out of her league with her mach1...I know this is a chevy site, but please show no respect to 4 valvers, i dont own a 4 v or an LS1, but my buddys have had them all, im a foxbody guy if im racing, a mach 1 may only be 281 cubes, but lets face it, an ls1 wont make even close to the power per cube a 4v will, hence a 4v will make just as much rwhp with the same mods....short of modding the internals, it has the ability to make more power....especially power adder to power adder, especially boost, a stock untouched 4v 281 can do 600+rwhp and 600+rwtq on a stock engine with a kenne bell or whipple....give me a break
sad thing is, it is a stronger engine which is my point retard.... na to na, ill take an ls1, any mods so long as the internals are stock on both engines, a 4v makes an ls1 its bitch, boost or n20, as strong as an ls1 can be stock under the heads, it cant hang with a 4v, if you can prove otherwise, do it.......
we could argue about this all day, lets just argue LS7 vs Ford GT 5.4s/c, another case where an L-series cant take much more with out blowing like an f-ing grenade.... can the top L-Series do this???????? i cant take the boost, or the power 1000+rwhp on a stock engine heads down---HP twin turbo ford gt
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01-29-2008, 07:35 AM
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Are you serious, your wife knows shes out of her league with her mach1...I know this is a chevy site, but please show no respect to 4 valvers, i dont own a 4 v or an LS1, but my buddys have had them all, im a foxbody guy if im racing, a mach 1 may only be 281 cubes, but lets face it, an ls1 wont make even close to the power per cube a 4v will, hence a 4v will make just as much rwhp with the same mods....short of modding the internals, it has the ability to make more power....especially power adder to power adder, especially boost, a stock untouched 4v 281 can do 600+rwhp and 600+rwtq on a stock engine with a kenne bell or whipple....give me a break
01-29-2008, 09:12 AM
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Are you serious, your wife knows shes out of her league with her mach1...I know this is a chevy site, but please show no respect to 4 valvers, i dont own a 4 v or an LS1, but my buddys have had them all, im a foxbody guy if im racing, a mach 1 may only be 281 cubes, but lets face it, an ls1 wont make even close to the power per cube a 4v will, hence a 4v will make just as much rwhp with the same mods....short of modding the internals, it has the ability to make more power....especially power adder to power adder, especially boost, a stock untouched 4v 281 can do 600+rwhp and 600+rwtq on a stock engine with a kenne bell or whipple....give me a break
'03/'04 4v cobra modulars need how much boost just to get a hair above 400 hp? Hmmm LS1 (with a cam,) LS2, LS3, and LS7 all do it N/A. Throw an equivalent amount of boost with supporting moods on a Gen III/IV and again the modular gets fist f***ed. Mod for mod the LSx based engine is going to give better results, and that my friend is a LAW OF PHYSICS. Why? Displacement.
Sure a 4v may have a higher VE, but that dont mean jack **** when you out displaced by over a liter.
Stupid ricer
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01-29-2008, 04:30 PM
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Why has this guy not been banned yet? He's already showed what he's all about. He just here to argue and start shiat.
On a side note. Why am I having to spell that wrong to keep it from doing this ****?
On a side note. Why am I having to spell that wrong to keep it from doing this ****?
01-29-2008, 06:43 PM
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Why dont you guys just drop it? All of you bitching and crying because he likes a 4v more are making this thread more trash than he is. LETITGO!!!!
Good kill OPer, sux your thread got turned into a big pile of **** by all these people. Nice cars you and your wife have! I'd take her side though in an argument for obvious reasons though!
jk
Good kill OPer, sux your thread got turned into a big pile of **** by all these people. Nice cars you and your wife have! I'd take her side though in an argument for obvious reasons though!
jk
01-29-2008, 08:00 PM
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and just stop responding to the troll and maybe he'll go away
01-29-2008, 09:15 PM
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01-29-2008, 10:18 PM
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But please note I said mod for mod; referring to a stock/tuned '03/'04 cobra modular vs a F/I LSx. Mod for mod the LSx makes more power due to the displacement. NA modular vs NA LS1, the LS1 makes more power. If you keep the comparision roughly equivalent, the LSx wins due to displacement.
Just like how the LS2 is ever so slightly faster, and responds ever so slightly better, mod for mod, than the LS1. (as much as it pains me to say that....)
But I do see your point. When comparing FI to NA, yes FI is waaaay waaaay easier to pull extra HP out.
And you are right, I should just ignore the troll.
OP - great kill!
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01-29-2008, 10:36 PM
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1k hp on a 100% stock bottom end? That seems a bit of a stretch....but hey I don't know my mustangs very well.
But please note I said mod for mod; referring to a stock/tuned '03/'04 cobra modular vs a F/I LSx. Mod for mod the LSx makes more power due to the displacement. NA modular vs NA LS1, the LS1 makes more power. If you keep the comparision roughly equivalent, the LSx wins due to displacement.
Just like how the LS2 is ever so slightly faster, and responds ever so slightly better, mod for mod, than the LS1. (as much as it pains me to say that....)
But I do see your point. When comparing FI to NA, yes FI is waaaay waaaay easier to pull extra HP out.
And you are right, I should just ignore the troll.
OP - great kill!
But please note I said mod for mod; referring to a stock/tuned '03/'04 cobra modular vs a F/I LSx. Mod for mod the LSx makes more power due to the displacement. NA modular vs NA LS1, the LS1 makes more power. If you keep the comparision roughly equivalent, the LSx wins due to displacement.
Just like how the LS2 is ever so slightly faster, and responds ever so slightly better, mod for mod, than the LS1. (as much as it pains me to say that....)
But I do see your point. When comparing FI to NA, yes FI is waaaay waaaay easier to pull extra HP out.
And you are right, I should just ignore the troll.
OP - great kill!
01-30-2008, 02:34 AM
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1k hp on a 100% stock bottom end? That seems a bit of a stretch....but hey I don't know my mustangs very well.
But please note I said mod for mod; referring to a stock/tuned '03/'04 cobra modular vs a F/I LSx. Mod for mod the LSx makes more power due to the displacement. NA modular vs NA LS1, the LS1 makes more power. If you keep the comparision roughly equivalent, the LSx wins due to displacement.
Just like how the LS2 is ever so slightly faster, and responds ever so slightly better, mod for mod, than the LS1. (as much as it pains me to say that....)
But I do see your point. When comparing FI to NA, yes FI is waaaay waaaay easier to pull extra HP out.
And you are right, I should just ignore the troll.
OP - great kill!
But please note I said mod for mod; referring to a stock/tuned '03/'04 cobra modular vs a F/I LSx. Mod for mod the LSx makes more power due to the displacement. NA modular vs NA LS1, the LS1 makes more power. If you keep the comparision roughly equivalent, the LSx wins due to displacement.
Just like how the LS2 is ever so slightly faster, and responds ever so slightly better, mod for mod, than the LS1. (as much as it pains me to say that....)
But I do see your point. When comparing FI to NA, yes FI is waaaay waaaay easier to pull extra HP out.
And you are right, I should just ignore the troll.
OP - great kill!
Basically what I said earlier. Some guys never learn.
01-30-2008, 07:46 AM
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im around mph alot and have seen them make many 500-1100hp 03-04 cobras and have seen some of them blow at 650, and som hold months at 900+ its all in the way the owner drives the car. if you beat on a 700+hp cobra n hot lap it, it will blow just like ne other car.
o n 2 the guy above about my car. thanks! theres some pics of it in another thread below this one i believe about a 06 roush mustang