ya i do not know where the vid is, you gotta love the roots torque with the turbo top end.

 

theres two videos of it on page 5

 

heres a vid of the other one on the street

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=25428352

boost comes in QUICK

 

So you have to port the head and put in larger valves... not that big of a deal when you're building a 1000hp motor

 

You dont HAVE to touch the heads to make 1k at the wheels. The head is just an easy way to pick up big power so why not do it?

 

Me and my buddy have this conversation at least once a month about my 2000ss that ran 12.96 with free mods and nitto dr's. I paid 14,000 for my no options m6. He always gives me crap about 03 04 cobras are faster personaly ive only seen one run and he got a 12.96 also. but im sure he had over 20k in just the purchase of his car. And it comes with a factory power adder so it should be faster i agee. But there are few cars that u can get for arund 10-15 k and run 12's besides our ls'1 camaro's.

 

hogwash i hate that argument. i can go buy a 4clylinder notchback for 500 bucks and put a motor in it that would monkey stomp an ls1. and by the way how is an ss a no options car ???? run what ya got and hope ya got enough.

 

thank you

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good death....**** him.

 

I'm still trying to find this mythical stock engine (long block) Supra that puts a 1000HP to the ground. I found one on a search that was "stockish" that put down 800 RWHP, but it barely fit the stock requirement. At least if you make a claim list a source. I may be knuckle dragging unsophisticated Mullet head, but if I don't do it myself at least I will list a source.

You can't even get agreement on any of the Supra boards on whos stock long block Supra makes the most power, how do you expect people on an LS board to believe you. Name a reliable source if your going to throw numbers out there.

 

I was not the one that made the claim so I am not sure why you are referencing me. What Supra boards are you talking about? I only frequent one. If you know of these supposed boards then you should also know where to get your answer. I really dont care what you believe. What I show you and tell you wont change your mind. I am tired of trying to convinced closed minded biased people of anything. People like you seem to think that just because someone compliments one engine he is immediately putting down another. Thats not the case. I have owned 4 Supras. I do my own work. I know what they are capable of. Thats all that matters to me.

 

With your Supra experience, you obviously have the credentials to know the details on who would have the highest hp "stock long block Supra". Why would you have any problem just stating who has this record since, this is an area that you have the knowledge in. If you asked me who has the Fastest stock Z06, I would say that would be "Ranger" on Corvette forum, with a 10.9 on stock tires. Someone may have beat that by now, but it would still be close. As a Chevy enthusiast, I know where to find the info.

Not like it really matters which Supra sites Ive researched, there is so much Conjecture and heresay on many import sites you can never tell fact from fiction. Ive been on Supra Forums, which I believe is a fairy reliable site, and Ive seen what looks like a true "Stock long block" record around 800RWHP...Stock bottom end, heads and cams. Theres a high 8 second car on MkIV.com that has all bolt ons that made 780 motor HP.

I'm not an anti Supra guy, I'd even buy one, just to put an LS1 motor in it(Just kidding). There's just so many claims around these vehicles and there capabilities, that you just can't believe all of the hype. So, asking for a little factual supporting data from the Supra enthusiast that post here isn't asking for much. How about a dyno chart at least.

One of the things that makes a good site is the quality of the information shared. If you have a people dropping non-factual data and heresay on a site, it just becomes diluted and turns into one of the many kiddy car sites that are so prevalent.

 

If you leave the heads stock the turbo that would have to be used to make 1k would be humongous. The 2JZ is only 183 cubes so that makes NO sense. Is it possible? Probably. Is it practical? Nope. If you think adding larger cams is heavily modifying the heads then no, I dont know any one making over 1k on the 100% stock heads. Everyone changes out cams. The claims being made about the 2JZ usually reference the ability of the stock SHORTBLOCK to handle alot of power straight from the factory. That has nothing to do with the ability of the stock head and cams to be able to flow that much.

 

No argument on the capabilities of the 2JZ shortblock. As unpractical as upping the boost and leaving the rest of the long block alone, I'm sure it’s been done. I'm sure a stock 2JZ with added boost may have the record or at least be close to it as far as specific output (HP/CC) for a stock production engine.

On making any other argument with mods, ala vs. the LS or any other dissimilar engine, it is impossible. Too many differences to make a fair comparison.

For my Personal builds, I look at 5 things; Weight, Longevity, cost, packaging, and power output over the rpm range that the vehicle will be in. When you ad those 5 together regardless of your power adder, the traditional small block Chevy is impossible to beat. The traditional BBC would take it, if not for packaging and weight. Until LS and Ford parts drop to those by the tradtional gen I sbc will continue to be the best bang for the buck.

 

I am in total agreement on that. Regardless of what alot of domestic guys may think, must of the Supra guys I know of that have been with the car for awhile started out with muscle cars. There is no replacement for displacement. I built my Supra in a similiar fashion. I wasnt looking for huge dyno numbers. I needed something with lots of power under the curve and a broad usuable powerband. As for longevity, thats all in the tune and how you take care of the car. My last Supra engine was used between 2 cars. It lasted over 100K miles at power levels over 600rwhp. All my cars are daily driven. I am not saying the 2JZ is the best engine in the word, not at all. But for 6 cylinders and 183 cubic inches it does a pretty good job.

 

Kinda like this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rmNy-ajRV0U&feature=related

 

^badass vid. i saw a late model supra on the way back to TRIPLBLCKZ28'S house earlier tonight. i was all staring at it in my sideview mirror as i drove by it. those cars look like pure sex from any angle, gave me a SEMI

 

They may be fast, but you know what...I'll stick with my Cobra, lol. By the way, anyone see the Cobra with twin turbos and the stock supercharger? It was in MM&FF. It was making around 1200rwhp. Thats what I'm talking about!

 

omg thats wicked crazy!!!!