my left nut

 

Mini-muscle.
Micro-muscle.
A Spasm.

 

correction I did not mean to put "with stock internals" since 25 **** us off did not specify that in his last post...... Only 2 cars huh... Almost any domestic v-8 is capable of that power with the right parts

 

Oh i'm sorry what car did you say made that from the factory? I could have sworn you just gave us the list of upgrades.

 

Typical ricer

 

Lemme know when your ready to get educated.

In the end both types of setups go about reaching the same goal in different ways. Thats my take on it. Not only are you bias but but its pretty obvious you truly don't understand certain principles. Its clearly shown through your ignorance.

 

Did you read the post. I clearly stated that there are only 2 that I can think of. So I guess they are the cobra and GN.

Tell me how am I pissing you off? I clearly asked why is it that there are 4 cyl. making what you are from the factory with less displacement. Isn't that a logical question. Who gives a rats *** if it's FI or not. Obviously you didn't have a problem naming a GN or an 03 cobra.

Like I said over and over again. It isn't like Japanese or European car makers can't make the power. The market is not there. Plus there are certain regulations that are put on an x amount of hp. Have you noticed that most of the cars overthere are rated at 276hp, and nothing more.

 

what 2.0 litre engine mkes that power from the factory...... EVO NO STI NO If you want to compare that 436 hp evo with just a few bolt ons it only take one bolt to make that much hp with a ls1 NITROUS...... There that evens the playing field. One power adder to another. You act like an evo or sti is a lightwieght. "5.7 and 3500lbs" what does an sti or evo wieght 3200lbs? YA

 

Yes it is a logical question, but the below statment

is the problem. See the reason the they can produce the same power is BECAUSE of the turbo. Also pay attention at where the power is being made i.e. at what rpm

I was pointing out the potential a domestic BUILT FOR BOOST had compared to an import.

***** in your court now.

 

Goodnight 25POS. Sounds like you have a little (pun intended) case of ***** envy. I think if you jerk off enough to your ricer catalogues, maybe, just maybe, it will grow.

We have BIG engines. We sleep well. It's the American way.

 

GN and cobra.......hummm both FI let me ask you a question.... Do you see a trend here, all the cars you are talking about are FI also. Maybe its just because FI cars from the factory are built a little stronger internally and its easy to pumpup the boost. Like I said before almost any domestic V-8 is capable of 600hp...... Many with FI!!!!!

 

MOST WITHOUT FI

 

For some reason this guy reminds me of Farva.

 

Listen up POS, I'm only gonna say this once.

Imagine this. It's the 1800s, somebody challenges you to a duel, anything goes. You, being the master of knives and general combat, bring many different kinds of knives and cutlery with you. The man who challenges you, is a lawyer. He never fights. You show up, all ready with your knives. The lawyer walks up, pulls out a pistol, and shoots you. BANG! You lose.

This can be strongly related to the whole import vs domestic thing. If a stock LS1 pulls up to a stock Integra Type-R, the LS1 will most likely smoke the **** out of him. What's the Type-R driver gonna do? Shake his fist out the window yelling "Oh yeah! Well I make 100 horses per liter with a more high-tech engine then you! So ha!" Do you REALLY expect the LS1 driver to give a ****? He just smoked the Teg driver's ***. He's probably laughing as he just put a few bus lengths on him.

All this talk of technolgy doesn't even really matter. Who cares who has better technology? Whoever crosses the finish line first, wins. As long as he plays by the rules, what else matters? American motors have made power by using high-displacement 8 cylinder pushrod engines for 40 years. If it works, why change it? Hell, the stock LS1, a pushrod 5.7 liter 350 cubic inch v8 will smoke most of the stock "high-tech" import engines out there.

Technology doesn't always win, buddy. We're still smoking your ricey asses every night on the highway. I bet for every Import that smokes a Domestic, there are 10 more domestics smoking imports on that same highway in 24 hours. Until you can beat us, or even run with us, shut hte **** up about your high-technology bullshit.

Oh yeah, one more thing:

KISS MY LOW-TECH PUSHROD DRIVING ***!!!

 

you complain about 99 percent of us not being able to relate to a top fuel car then you bring up a 14k rpm turbo formula one engine?
they make the same power with smaller displacement from either forced induction or a super high rpm motor with no bottom end i.e. s2k its only 20hp less than a gt stang right? well the stang literally has twice as much torque and doesnt have to wind to 8300rpm to hit its power peak .
variable valve timing systems are about driveability, has nothing to do with racing or overall power output. theyre just trying to make a gutless motor less gutless when you stomp on the gas for highway merging. unless of course you forgot that most honda racers ditch the vtec setups to reduce valvetrain weight?
a motor makes power ONE way, bringing in air. you can do this artificially i.e. FI or spray or you can do it n/a through cubes or revs. the slight amount of extra revs a small motor can go over a bigger one wont make up for the gross lack of displacement. unless you want to start comparing 9k rpm big blocks with 10 or 11k rpm 4 bangers

typical little guy syndrome, trying not to be overlooked and ends up coming off as a dick.

however, it basically comes down to the fact that the quickest and most powerful internal combustion engines on the planet are still 30 year old dinosaur motors with a halfass inefficient power adder

 

well for one thing GM or Ford can make a 5.7 or 4.6 liter put out ALOT more horsepower then it does put the problem with that is who the hell wants to buy a 600HP car from the factory...not that many ppl thats why GM had to retire the Fbody's no one was buying them because no one needs a car with a big gas guzzling 5.7L V8 engine that puts out 325HP(underrated VERY underrated) stock. Its a bussiness there job is to sell cars and whatever the ppl want is what the car company's make. a good point was brought up with the cobra's compare that car to a cobra...crank the boost up on a stock cobra and it would smack that evo around so i dont know what your trying to say...of course any car with a turbo or charger from factory you can turn the boost up and its going to put out more HP so whats your point?

 

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what an evo or an sti?

 

what the hell is a car link? Take it easy on the caps lock there, newbie.

 

I've heard of stock internal ls1's putting 800 + horses to the ground with a turbo, who cares, its not going to last long, some will some wont, depends how you drive, you could drive a blown 800ci alcohol motor w/3500 hp for longer than a 1/4 mile, but whats the sence, we want our street cars to last, we know what the ls1's can handle, although you can add turbo or nitrous to any motor and make at least 1 dyno pass before it blows up, well whoopeyy dooo, if you wanna compete stock internals vs stock internals, then lets go, if you wanna add turbo then go ahead, your not even in the same class, dude you've got 4 cylinders, paid more, and are slower with the same amount of mods, I think its a big waist of time, and you guys do look very stupid when you get your asses dusted, looking like you cant explain how the *** you got beat, your cars SUCK!!!, if it comes down to mods, then duh, whoever'z got the deepest pockets WILL WIN!