Hey guys im pretty new to all this stuff and was just wondering what would be the best race for a 2000 Camaro SS against an 07 Mustang GT. The camaro is an M6 and the mustangs an auto. I would perfer not to go from a dead stop because i dont feel like replacing a clutch/rear end/ tranny, etc. Both are bone stock. Some 05 v6 stang is also dying to run me but im not too worried about him

 

SS should win if you know how to drive. But I'm guessing you don't since you're afraid of breaking half your car. So I would put money on the GT winning a dig race due to driver...no offense

 

You should take him no problem but I'd race him from stop ( DIG ) thats to prove who is the better driver IMO roll racing is lame thats what ricer racing is.

 

learn how to drive first. if you don't want to break anything, then don't race. it comes with the territory.

 

go from a dig not a roll. you should walk all over him not by alot though.

 

i was thinking a dig then a high first gear pull(around 35-40 mph). should be intresting

 

where those cars start to fall off is when they have to shift into third. I would know my buddy has one they will hang close through first and second but once you do a 3rd and 4th gear pull it gets a lot worse for them. But make sure you know how to drive it well because you will need to hit your shifts pretty well.
And first gear pulls you dont want to go from higher then 35mph since you have to shift at 45mph
2nd go at 55mph
3rd go at 75mph

 

just learn how to drive take it to a parking lot and figure out your 1st to 2nd shift watch your rpms so you dont max it out if you get that down 3rd and 4th are no problem.
I'd GO TO THE TRACK though just to be safe I street race a little but only to the speed limit and keep the traction controll on and the cut out closed so the police dont get me.

 

If he is auto I would not want to go from a dig. Race his brick from a higher roll. You will murder him from a 50 roll. Either way you should win, but a roll will be better.

 

Those auto launch damn hard out of the hole. When I was stock my buddy could put at least a car and a half on me every time. Of course once I hit third gear it was all over The sure thing would be a roll from 50 in second. Or from 20ish in first would even due. If you've installed the the driver mod then have at the dig.

 

I agree.


A dig is the best spot for the stang......but...it's 'real drag racing' imo. BUT, before you do either, get used to the car. Otherwise, you'll lose.

 

If you're a half decent driver you shouldn't have much problem in any type of race. Those GT's are strongest from a stop so to make it fun race him where he has the best chance

To give you an idea I have the heavy LS1 GTO A4 which you would beat and even I pulled away from a '05+ Mustang GT 5spd and I had to let off on the 1-2 shift. All I have is Predator(custom tune), Borla CB, K&N Cai, and TB Bypass. You're not even racing the 5spd so it will get ugly for the auto GT if it's stock.

 

Um......maybe you didnt' realize this....but A4 S197s are within tenths of the M5s.....the Auto's in the S197s are lightyears ahead of the New edges.


And what's with all the 'you should.....cause the 'one time'....' stuff?

 

Don't get me wrong I wasn't bashing the auto GT but I know the 5spd's are stronger once you get moving. The 5spd will trap a little higher if it's in the hands of a good driver. The average '05+ mustang gt autos will run in the high 13's at the track while even an average driver should at least get into the mid 13's on a good night in an LS1 F-bod. I had an '02 Mustang GT myself so don't think I don't respect them.

What I meant by it getting ugly is if the race goes past 60-70 where the LS1 shines, plus the new GT's aren't the most aerodynamic.

 

Gotcha...I agree...the S197s are bricks (imo). I test drove one when I had a bolt on mach sitting in the garage.....i was impressed with 'off the line', but when I got on the highway, I wanted to get out and push so I could pass a rig.

 

You're going to lose. I bet you can't drive.

 

run from a dig hell pull 2 on you immediatly and youll reel him in slowely by about 100. run from a roll and you should pull a car or 2. thats my guess for the outcome

 

Do some weight reduction haha cant hurt make shure you race him with a 1/4 tank too.

 

I'm sure its been brought up in this forum already, but the 05+ GTs have 5 speed autos, not 4 speeds. But they are generally still 2 to 3 tenths slower than a properly driven manual.

I'll go with the consensus here..........learn your car first. Racing a car you're not yet comfortable with is a recipe for disaster.......either for your pride, or your car.

If you get the hang of your LS1 first, I see no reason why you can't nail a stockish S197 GT.....auto or manual. The HP and torque curve advantage are yours.

 

- Yeah...I'm so used to typing "A4".