springs?
springs? after reading a couple of threads i have decided to buy the Bilstien shocks, i would buy the konis but they are out of my budget..wich springs would u guys recomend??thankz.. btw im new here
i assume you want it lower.
but honestly...just upgrading the shocks on stock springs will make a considerable difference in handling.
how much of a drop do you want?
the Strano springs are well liked
the eibach prokit has issues with sag in the back.
BMR use to be one of the smaller drops (1") but they are pretty stiff in the rear.
the SLPs are a small drop but hard to find.
but honestly...just upgrading the shocks on stock springs will make a considerable difference in handling.
how much of a drop do you want?
the Strano springs are well liked
the eibach prokit has issues with sag in the back.
BMR use to be one of the smaller drops (1") but they are pretty stiff in the rear.
the SLPs are a small drop but hard to find.
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+1 on everything teke said.
If you're looking for something fast... then even though you'll get a lot of people telling you strano... they're backordered 6-8 weeks right now, but that's only because they're so popular...
If you're looking for something fast... then even though you'll get a lot of people telling you strano... they're backordered 6-8 weeks right now, but that's only because they're so popular...
Bilstein's are not built or valved with the best lowering springs performance and control in mind.....
Can you run them? Yes. Better than say Tokico Blues? Yes. Doing Bilstein's and lowering springs is an option you can consider... But you have to understand something.
Not all lowering springs are the same. Varying rates and and heights exist and some will work better with Bilstein's valving.
Shocks are *spring dampers*. Very simply put running springs that demand more damping control is sort of like trying to damp a big heavy steel front door on a building with a shock meant for a screen door (those are dampers which damp mass just like shocks on a car).
Can you run them? Yes. Better than say Tokico Blues? Yes. Doing Bilstein's and lowering springs is an option you can consider... But you have to understand something.
Not all lowering springs are the same. Varying rates and and heights exist and some will work better with Bilstein's valving.
Shocks are *spring dampers*. Very simply put running springs that demand more damping control is sort of like trying to damp a big heavy steel front door on a building with a shock meant for a screen door (those are dampers which damp mass just like shocks on a car).
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Bilstein's are not built or valved with the best lowering springs performance and control in mind.....
Can you run them? Yes. Better than say Tokico Blues? Yes. Doing Bilstein's and lowering springs is an option you can consider... But you have to understand something.
Not all lowering springs are the same. Varying rates and and heights exist and some will work better with Bilstein's valving.
Shocks are *spring dampers*. Very simply put running springs that demand more damping control is sort of like trying to damp a big heavy steel front door on a building with a shock meant for a screen door (those are dampers which damp mass just like shocks on a car).
Can you run them? Yes. Better than say Tokico Blues? Yes. Doing Bilstein's and lowering springs is an option you can consider... But you have to understand something.
Not all lowering springs are the same. Varying rates and and heights exist and some will work better with Bilstein's valving.
Shocks are *spring dampers*. Very simply put running springs that demand more damping control is sort of like trying to damp a big heavy steel front door on a building with a shock meant for a screen door (those are dampers which damp mass just like shocks on a car).
I am suggesting our springs. Our spring has a 1" drop which works well with the bilstein's valving. We are currently running a sale on our springs, $174.95 per set of four plus shipping. Here are some pictures of our customer cars with the springs installed. If you have any questions please give me a call.
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I can't recommend anything at this time because I'm unclear about what your want/expect and are willling to live with.
I disagree that any lowering springs, mine or BMR's "work well" with Bilstien's valving. Bilstein does not make a Sport valved shock for the 4th gen F-body, and one look at their catalog tells you Sport shocks are intended for lowered cars. They makes Sport valving for a lot of other cars along with HD's, but not here. Why? Beats me.... But that is a very simple indication they are thinking "good enough".
Well, lots of people think that way. You might be one. I'm not generally that way, but if you are and what you expect would suit the result you'd get as I said before you can run Bilstein's and lowering springs.
However, I don't think Bilstien's are a great match (there are worse) for my springs, let alone springs that have even more rate (which requires more damping).
Stock springs are the best springs to run with Bilstein's if the idea is to have the shocks live a long life and offer an appropriate level of damping. Not saying that stock springs are the best... just that Bilstein's are best matched with stock springs. Do something different on shocks, and that can open up more viable spring choices to you. The car is most is need of good damping, so I hate to skimp there. A car on great shocks is much more pleasant to drive than one on some mismatched springs and lowering springs.
I disagree that any lowering springs, mine or BMR's "work well" with Bilstien's valving. Bilstein does not make a Sport valved shock for the 4th gen F-body, and one look at their catalog tells you Sport shocks are intended for lowered cars. They makes Sport valving for a lot of other cars along with HD's, but not here. Why? Beats me.... But that is a very simple indication they are thinking "good enough".
Well, lots of people think that way. You might be one. I'm not generally that way, but if you are and what you expect would suit the result you'd get as I said before you can run Bilstein's and lowering springs.
However, I don't think Bilstien's are a great match (there are worse) for my springs, let alone springs that have even more rate (which requires more damping).
Stock springs are the best springs to run with Bilstein's if the idea is to have the shocks live a long life and offer an appropriate level of damping. Not saying that stock springs are the best... just that Bilstein's are best matched with stock springs. Do something different on shocks, and that can open up more viable spring choices to you. The car is most is need of good damping, so I hate to skimp there. A car on great shocks is much more pleasant to drive than one on some mismatched springs and lowering springs.
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Verdad Gallardo I can't recommend anything at this time because I'm unclear about what your want/expect and are willling to live with.
I disagree that any lowering springs, mine or BMR's "work well" with Bilstien's valving. Bilstein does not make a Sport valved shock for the 4th gen F-body, and one look at their catalog tells you Sport shocks are intended for lowered cars. They makes Sport valving for a lot of other cars along with HD's, but not here. Why? Beats me.... But that is a very simple indication they are thinking "good enough".
Well, lots of people think that way. You might be one. I'm not generally that way, but if you are and what you expect would suit the result you'd get as I said before you can run Bilstein's and lowering springs.
However, I don't think Bilstien's are a great match (there are worse) for my springs, let alone springs that have even more rate (which requires more damping).
Stock springs are the best springs to run with Bilstein's if the idea is to have the shocks live a long life and offer an appropriate level of damping. Not saying that stock springs are the best... just that Bilstein's are best matched with stock springs. Do something different on shocks, and that can open up more viable spring choices to you. The car is most is need of good damping, so I hate to skimp there. A car on great shocks is much more pleasant to drive than one on some mismatched springs and lowering springs.
I disagree that any lowering springs, mine or BMR's "work well" with Bilstien's valving. Bilstein does not make a Sport valved shock for the 4th gen F-body, and one look at their catalog tells you Sport shocks are intended for lowered cars. They makes Sport valving for a lot of other cars along with HD's, but not here. Why? Beats me.... But that is a very simple indication they are thinking "good enough".
Well, lots of people think that way. You might be one. I'm not generally that way, but if you are and what you expect would suit the result you'd get as I said before you can run Bilstein's and lowering springs.
However, I don't think Bilstien's are a great match (there are worse) for my springs, let alone springs that have even more rate (which requires more damping).
Stock springs are the best springs to run with Bilstein's if the idea is to have the shocks live a long life and offer an appropriate level of damping. Not saying that stock springs are the best... just that Bilstein's are best matched with stock springs. Do something different on shocks, and that can open up more viable spring choices to you. The car is most is need of good damping, so I hate to skimp there. A car on great shocks is much more pleasant to drive than one on some mismatched springs and lowering springs.
You keep asking me that, and I keep trying to tell you I can't answer you because I don't have the information I need to make a recommendation that I'm sure is right.......
What are you trying to get done? What are the priorities? If you want the simple answer, then I think Bilstein's are best suited for stock springs and that's what you should do because then you have shocks teamed wtih the intended springs.
If you want a recommendation that isn't a bit of a guess, you need to help me here. What you are asking is basically the same as telling an engine builder you want more power, period. No other details--kind of hard for them to figure out what to do. Headers? Tune? Heads? Cam? Supercharger, Nitrous? 350 WHP, 800 WHP?
What are you trying to get done? What are the priorities? If you want the simple answer, then I think Bilstein's are best suited for stock springs and that's what you should do because then you have shocks teamed wtih the intended springs.
If you want a recommendation that isn't a bit of a guess, you need to help me here. What you are asking is basically the same as telling an engine builder you want more power, period. No other details--kind of hard for them to figure out what to do. Headers? Tune? Heads? Cam? Supercharger, Nitrous? 350 WHP, 800 WHP?
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