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CTS-V Brake Install w/ Pics
10-30-2010, 08:54 PM
#245
Kornfreak, I have no idea how to make the cts-v calipers work on a z06...it would have to be the reverse of the brackets that are required to run a z06 caliper on a f-body...
Beaflag, which two calipers are you comparing? The cts-v 4 piston vs the 2010 camaro 4-piston? If so, as far as I know, they are the same caliper but with different mounting screw holes. Also if you are trying to get the rears to work, the cts-v rears work with brackets from kore3
Beaflag, which two calipers are you comparing? The cts-v 4 piston vs the 2010 camaro 4-piston? If so, as far as I know, they are the same caliper but with different mounting screw holes. Also if you are trying to get the rears to work, the cts-v rears work with brackets from kore3
10-31-2010, 04:16 AM
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10-31-2010, 09:45 PM
#249
You can only use fixed rear calipers on cars with IRS or non c-clip axles. If you install fixed calipers on a c-clip axle (10 bolt, 12 bolt, 8.8, ect) you will experience constant pad knockback, which can be felt to the driver as a sinking pedal after the car goes around a corner.
If you notice the new Mustang GT with the Brembo package only comes with Brembos in the front, not the back...same thing with the GT500. It just won't work.
However, if you have a Ford 9" (no c-clips, press on bearings) then you can successfully use fixed calipers on your rear axle.
11-01-2010, 04:33 AM
#250
What about on a MWC rear end?
I've seen rear c6 z06 calipers on a red ws6 in the wheels section. This was done with a Kore3 bracket and a strange 12 bolt.
Also, it's been mentioned a few pages back in this thread that Kore3 has made the bracket for fbodys before but it will cost a LOT of $$$. Nonetheless it's been done!
Personally, I only want them because those brakes will look killer behind the wheels I'm buying
I've seen rear c6 z06 calipers on a red ws6 in the wheels section. This was done with a Kore3 bracket and a strange 12 bolt.
Also, it's been mentioned a few pages back in this thread that Kore3 has made the bracket for fbodys before but it will cost a LOT of $$$. Nonetheless it's been done!
Personally, I only want them because those brakes will look killer behind the wheels I'm buying
11-01-2010, 02:35 PM
#251
Won't work due to the design of our cars.
You can only use fixed rear calipers on cars with IRS or non c-clip axles. If you install fixed calipers on a c-clip axle (10 bolt, 12 bolt, 8.8, ect) you will experience constant pad knockback, which can be felt to the driver as a sinking pedal after the car goes around a corner.
If you notice the new Mustang GT with the Brembo package only comes with Brembos in the front, not the back...same thing with the GT500. It just won't work.
However, if you have a Ford 9" (no c-clips, press on bearings) then you can successfully use fixed calipers on your rear axle.
You can only use fixed rear calipers on cars with IRS or non c-clip axles. If you install fixed calipers on a c-clip axle (10 bolt, 12 bolt, 8.8, ect) you will experience constant pad knockback, which can be felt to the driver as a sinking pedal after the car goes around a corner.
If you notice the new Mustang GT with the Brembo package only comes with Brembos in the front, not the back...same thing with the GT500. It just won't work.
However, if you have a Ford 9" (no c-clips, press on bearings) then you can successfully use fixed calipers on your rear axle.
11-01-2010, 05:14 PM
#252
Kore3 can make a custom bracket for the cs-v rears to fit on an f-body, they have done it once before. They mate it with a 13" rotor from a c4. But as I mentioned previously, cost is high and they only offer it in a 3-channel. So you can only run parking brake OR TCS, but not both. They do not list it on their website, but I talked with them a few months ago about it, you can email them or call them for more info.
Even with a GP, I doubt Kore3 will drop the price enough to make it attractive to enough ppl who are willing to drop that amount on just brackets, then you would also have to piece together the rest of the system.
Even with a GP, I doubt Kore3 will drop the price enough to make it attractive to enough ppl who are willing to drop that amount on just brackets, then you would also have to piece together the rest of the system.
11-01-2010, 08:51 PM
#253
What about on a MWC rear end?
I've seen rear c6 z06 calipers on a red ws6 in the wheels section. This was done with a Kore3 bracket and a strange 12 bolt.
Also, it's been mentioned a few pages back in this thread that Kore3 has made the bracket for fbodys before but it will cost a LOT of $$$. Nonetheless it's been done!
Personally, I only want them because those brakes will look killer behind the wheels I'm buying
I've seen rear c6 z06 calipers on a red ws6 in the wheels section. This was done with a Kore3 bracket and a strange 12 bolt.
Also, it's been mentioned a few pages back in this thread that Kore3 has made the bracket for fbodys before but it will cost a LOT of $$$. Nonetheless it's been done!
Personally, I only want them because those brakes will look killer behind the wheels I'm buying
As for the MWC rear end, since it a 9", it doesn't have c-clips. The axle bearings are pressed onto the axles and bolted into the housing. Therefore you should be able to run fixed calipers without a problem.
11-01-2010, 09:08 PM
#254
Unfortunately, no. The spherical rod end LCA's help with axle control and wheel hop, but they do not help with pad knockback. The knockback is the direct result of the axle sliding inwards and outwards in the axle tube. There is always a certain amount of in/out play in the axle, which is caused by the clearances between the c-clip in it's groove relative to the differental pinion shaft or paddle. Basically the c-clip prevents the axle from coming out while the diff pinion shaft prevents it from coming too far inwards, and this design is where the endplay originates.
11-01-2010, 09:16 PM
#255
I agree...the brakes would look awesome...but its just not practical on a c-clip axle for any performance driving. If the car is just a cruiser/show car, then its not much of an issue, because there isn't going to be much force exterted on the rear axle. But if you ever intend to take a corner at speed, you will find out very quickly why its not reccommended at all.
As for the MWC rear end, since it a 9", it doesn't have c-clips. The axle bearings are pressed onto the axles and bolted into the housing. Therefore you should be able to run fixed calipers without a problem.
As for the MWC rear end, since it a 9", it doesn't have c-clips. The axle bearings are pressed onto the axles and bolted into the housing. Therefore you should be able to run fixed calipers without a problem.
So, if I went with the MWC 9", bought the Kore3 bracket to fit the rear cts-v brembos, send the bracket to MWC to put it all together.....this could work? Without any braking problems, good appearance and maybe a performance gain to boot?
11-01-2010, 09:32 PM
#256
Man, I could just hug you right now
So, if I went with the MWC 9", bought the Kore3 bracket to fit the rear cts-v brembos, send the bracket to MWC to put it all together.....this could work? Without any braking problems, good appearance and maybe a performance gain to boot?
So, if I went with the MWC 9", bought the Kore3 bracket to fit the rear cts-v brembos, send the bracket to MWC to put it all together.....this could work? Without any braking problems, good appearance and maybe a performance gain to boot?
Based on what you just listed, yes, it should work. You'd should have no performance issues, a measureable performance gain, and of course great appearance!! The main issue would be getting the Kore3 bracket adapted to the MWC 9" with the proper spacing and offset for caliper to rotor fitment. If MWC is willing to set up the brackets for you though, I'd say go for it!! That would be awesome, a 9" with Brembos is the ultimate setup!!
11-01-2010, 09:49 PM
#257
Haha
Based on what you just listed, yes, it should work. You'd should have no performance issues, a measureable performance gain, and of course great appearance!! The main issue would be getting the Kore3 bracket adapted to the MWC 9" with the proper spacing and offset for caliper to rotor fitment. If MWC is willing to set up the brackets for you though, I'd say go for it!! That would be awesome, a 9" with Brembos is the ultimate setup!!
Based on what you just listed, yes, it should work. You'd should have no performance issues, a measureable performance gain, and of course great appearance!! The main issue would be getting the Kore3 bracket adapted to the MWC 9" with the proper spacing and offset for caliper to rotor fitment. If MWC is willing to set up the brackets for you though, I'd say go for it!! That would be awesome, a 9" with Brembos is the ultimate setup!!
11-01-2010, 10:13 PM
#259
11-01-2010, 10:16 PM
#260
The stock aluminum PBR's on 12" vented rotors are excellent as far as rear brake setups go, but its hard to argue with 4 piston Brembos!! The main difference will be better brake pedal feel (less caliper deflection) and better resistance to brake fade under severe track conditions. And of course, looks!!