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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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1999 camaro z28 stock suspension vs. 2003 mustang mach1 stock suspension?

i was just curious because my dad owns a mach1 and it seems to handle pretty good
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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I would think they would be almost identicle. They have the same engine lay out, similar weights, would probably come down to what kind of tires each had.
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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i'd def. put my money on the mach 1
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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x2 on the Mach 1
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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my experiance is mustangs handle like ****. my vote is for the camaro. mine out handles just about every mustang around and even some mustang owners agree with me.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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I hate to say it but I think the Mustangs are set up for handling a little better out of the box. On a road coarse event last fall I would walk away from a stock Cobra in the straights but he would mostly catch me in the corners. At the time my suspension upgrades were just Bilstein shocks and SFCs. I have now done mods that should fix that.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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dont the mustangs with a solid rear have a 4 link suspension? i would think the 4 link would handle a bit better

my z28 feels pretty good with the stock springs, kyb 8 way adjustable shocks/struts, and SFCs, but if u push it too hard around corners, youll know it. my friend had a 98 cobra with a steeda adj suspension, that thing felt frickin sweet
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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They handle "different". Mustang's shorter wheelbase gives it an advantage on turn-in. The platform can certainly rotate. The short wheelbase allows it to have a higher slip-angle.

But ...

That slip-angle can cause problems, though. If you run out of talent, the rear will swap ends with the front. So you have to be patient in getting on the throttle.

Similarly, because the F-Car has a longer wheel base, it doesn't turn-in quite as crisp. It will plow through the turns if the driver tries to power into a corner.

So, saying one "out-handles" the other is extremely simplified. Its more about the driver than it is the platform.
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Originally Posted by 98TADRIVER
i would think the 4 link would handle a bit better
Not at all. They Fox and SN95 guys call it "quadra-bind". As the body rolls over, the uppers fight with the lowers because of their asymetrical mounting points. This binds the rear suspension and causes effective rear spring rates to sky-rocket and then it snaps around.
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Some good points there, Mitch. That Cobra did almost lose it coming out of the carousel at TWS trying like hell to catch me.
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the cobras IRS is also totally different than the standard mustangs.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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yea the mach1s have the solid rear end, interesting information you guys helped me out with, thanks alot
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