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01-06-2010, 04:44 PM
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Subframes... I am torn between UMI performance and BMR when it comes to these.. I watched UMI's video on their site showing their shop and how everything is american made which was a good selling point.. Then I found a post on here stating that BMRs fabrication of the part is one piece rather then two pieces welded together.. I have the pictures listed below.. Which would you rather have?? or can anyone tell me y or y not would be good.. However Im pretty confident that both companys make a terrific product Im just asking opinions???
BMR http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodyChassis.htm
UMI http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=191
BMR http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodyChassis.htm
UMI http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=191
01-07-2010, 11:24 AM
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Hello,
Thanks for the interest in our product.
And you are correct, both companies make great products and you can't go wrong with either. I think the piece you are referring to is where the SFC mounts to the rear control arm. BMR cuts there bracket from one piece and bends it while we machine ours and weld it together. I don't think either is a bad design or would fail on you.. its just simply a manufacture preference.
As you mentioned all our products are built in the USA and 99.9% of them are made right here in our Pennsylvania facility. Our Facebook page has over a 100 shop pictures showing some steps of production and our equipment. Please take a look and let me know if you have any questions.
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/p...1448642?ref=ts
Thank you!
Ryan
Thanks for the interest in our product.
And you are correct, both companies make great products and you can't go wrong with either. I think the piece you are referring to is where the SFC mounts to the rear control arm. BMR cuts there bracket from one piece and bends it while we machine ours and weld it together. I don't think either is a bad design or would fail on you.. its just simply a manufacture preference.
As you mentioned all our products are built in the USA and 99.9% of them are made right here in our Pennsylvania facility. Our Facebook page has over a 100 shop pictures showing some steps of production and our equipment. Please take a look and let me know if you have any questions.
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#/p...1448642?ref=ts
Thank you!
Ryan
01-07-2010, 01:51 PM
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Well... first of all if you want a 3-point SFC, BMR does not make that which means that's not an option.
Seems you are ok with 2 points, and that's fine... they aren't as stiff as they don't triangulate to 3 points, and if you ever go with a tunnel mount TA you'd definitely want 3's over 2's to distribute the torque loads into the SFC and not the floorpan.
As for which is better. Functionally if you use the same design they are the same. I like UMI. I sell their stuff, work with them, have them make some things for me, and trust them.
Seems you are ok with 2 points, and that's fine... they aren't as stiff as they don't triangulate to 3 points, and if you ever go with a tunnel mount TA you'd definitely want 3's over 2's to distribute the torque loads into the SFC and not the floorpan.
As for which is better. Functionally if you use the same design they are the same. I like UMI. I sell their stuff, work with them, have them make some things for me, and trust them.
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01-07-2010, 02:11 PM
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Well... first of all if you want a 3-point SFC, BMR does not make that which means that's not an option.
Seems you are ok with 2 points, and that's fine... they aren't as stiff as they don't triangulate to 3 points, and if you ever go with a tunnel mount TA you'd definitely want 3's over 2's to distribute the torque loads into the SFC and not the floorpan.
As for which is better. Functionally if you use the same design they are the same. I like UMI. I sell their stuff, work with them, have them make some things for me, and trust them.
Seems you are ok with 2 points, and that's fine... they aren't as stiff as they don't triangulate to 3 points, and if you ever go with a tunnel mount TA you'd definitely want 3's over 2's to distribute the torque loads into the SFC and not the floorpan.
As for which is better. Functionally if you use the same design they are the same. I like UMI. I sell their stuff, work with them, have them make some things for me, and trust them.
01-07-2010, 02:14 PM
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A TA relocation bracket is very different from a Tunnel mounted TA. No, a TA Relocation + 2 pts does not = bad. A Tunnel mount TA + no or only 2 pt SFC's = not good as the torque load goes into the floorpan (sheetmetal only) and can rip it up. 3 pts take the load..
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01-07-2010, 02:18 PM
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I just answered my own question... UMI sells a kit that has the Adj Torque arm WITH the "tunnel mounting" kit. but they ALSO sell a torque arm "relocation" kit. So, I assume I should get the ADJ torque arm then get the relocation kit, seeing that I have welded in 2 point BMR SFCs?
Sorry for the thread hijack btw
Sorry for the thread hijack btw
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Sam only said that it's not as good to go that route. But as long as your floor boards are in good condition, i.e. no rust then you are fine for the power level listed in your sig.
Ideally you want the 3 point for this but it is not necessary.
01-10-2010, 03:14 AM
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Ill have to check my undercarriage i guess... haha. but i assume if i get the tunnel mounted, I would need A LOT of power to do any damage under the car... Im just a worry wart. Is there a big advantage to get the tunnel mounted vs. the relocation crossmember for the T/A?
