Wanting Some Advice Without Negativity
03-24-2010, 12:36 PM
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Wanting Some Advice Without Negativity fixing to change my suspension setup. I'm going with eibach sportlines, because they provide the stance that I want my '02 WS6 to sit at. I don't race it, nor any real aggressive driving, so I'm wanting some positive ideas as to a good shock to put with them. I know most don't like the sportlines, but for me, that's the direction I want to go. was thinking of they KYB AGX, but not real certain if anyone has another suggestion that would be better for what I'm trying to do. Thanks for any input...
03-24-2010, 01:21 PM
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my advice without negativity:
use different springs. and if you must go that low, you don't want to skimp out on shocks. do it right the first time and go with koni sa's. then get any other lowering springs (preferably strano, bmr, lt1 prokit, hotchkis) and use them with the lower perch setting in front and heater hose in rear. that will give you the sportline drop but at least have a reasonable spring rate to keep you off the stops. if you want to do it even better get the GC coilover kit and go with some really stiff springs (I have 600# and they ride good). you could also do JasonWW's upper mount mod with either setup to regain some of the lost travel. i'm not being negative, just giving you a better means to get the end you are looking for.
use different springs. and if you must go that low, you don't want to skimp out on shocks. do it right the first time and go with koni sa's. then get any other lowering springs (preferably strano, bmr, lt1 prokit, hotchkis) and use them with the lower perch setting in front and heater hose in rear. that will give you the sportline drop but at least have a reasonable spring rate to keep you off the stops. if you want to do it even better get the GC coilover kit and go with some really stiff springs (I have 600# and they ride good). you could also do JasonWW's upper mount mod with either setup to regain some of the lost travel. i'm not being negative, just giving you a better means to get the end you are looking for.
03-24-2010, 01:48 PM
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+1 for what creeper said. You might like the look of the sportlines but their spring rate is not good for the height som you will bottom out on everything. There are other better ways to obtain that same look and still be able to be drivable. Alos with lowering you will need a set of lower control arm relocation brackets and an adj panhard bar to recenter the rear end
03-24-2010, 06:57 PM
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ok, i'll rephrase....IF i'm hellbent on going with sportlines, what is a good shock to go with them? I already have the springs, and that's the direction I want to go...majority doesn't like it, but it's how i want the car to sit....
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03-24-2010, 08:20 PM
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^^^ it would be nice if you posted it publicly for future reference
anyway, i don't think using stock shocks are a good idea. if you're set on using sportlines, still go with a good shock.
anyway, i don't think using stock shocks are a good idea. if you're set on using sportlines, still go with a good shock.
03-24-2010, 10:23 PM
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Go with Konis since your hell bent on Sport Lines. You will also need to modify where you adjust Camber(elognate frame hole) or get some off set upper bushings like Strano had offered. I had them on my car for like 4 hrs before pulling them off. I had lived in San Antonio at the time. So I wont give you any negative feedback.
03-24-2010, 11:37 PM
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my advice without negativity:
use different springs. and if you must go that low, you don't want to skimp out on shocks. do it right the first time and go with koni sa's. then get any other lowering springs (preferably strano, bmr, lt1 prokit, hotchkis) and use them with the lower perch setting in front and heater hose in rear. that will give you the sportline drop but at least have a reasonable spring rate to keep you off the stops. if you want to do it even better get the GC coilover kit and go with some really stiff springs (I have 600# and they ride good). you could also do JasonWW's upper mount mod with either setup to regain some of the lost travel. i'm not being negative, just giving you a better means to get the end you are looking for.
use different springs. and if you must go that low, you don't want to skimp out on shocks. do it right the first time and go with koni sa's. then get any other lowering springs (preferably strano, bmr, lt1 prokit, hotchkis) and use them with the lower perch setting in front and heater hose in rear. that will give you the sportline drop but at least have a reasonable spring rate to keep you off the stops. if you want to do it even better get the GC coilover kit and go with some really stiff springs (I have 600# and they ride good). you could also do JasonWW's upper mount mod with either setup to regain some of the lost travel. i'm not being negative, just giving you a better means to get the end you are looking for.
Since your determined to run the sportline springs, you first need to make sure your rear bump-stops are really good condition since you'll be using them a lot! For shocks get a set of bilsteins, there good (IMO,better then KYB) shocks and they'll probably last you longer then the KYB AGX shocks.
Enjoy you ride, and post some photo's up after the install!
03-25-2010, 12:41 AM
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Since your determined to run the sportline springs, you first need to make sure your rear bump-stops are really good condition since you'll be using them a lot! For shocks get a set of bilsteins, there good (IMO,better then KYB) shocks and they'll probably last you longer then the KYB AGX shocks.
Enjoy you ride, and post some photo's up after the install!
Enjoy you ride, and post some photo's up after the install!
03-25-2010, 04:28 AM
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no negativity? hmmm....ok.
if this is a daily driver, i can positively tell you that the ride is gonna suck!
but seriously, why don't you do what creeper suggested and obtain the same amount of drop via other means? the spring rate of the sportlines is way too low for the amount of drop they give you, and you're gonna be hitting the bumpstops ALL the time, regardless of what shocks you go with.
if you do the lower spring perch in the front and heater hose mod in the rear with Koni shocks & Strano springs, then you can at the very least talk to Sam Strano regarding setup and whatever.
it doesn't matter if you already bought those springs, you can just turn around and sell them to someone else to recover that money (just not on here, because you'll be waiting years before you find someone else on here that doesn't know better than to buy those springs....lol).
if this is a daily driver, i can positively tell you that the ride is gonna suck!
but seriously, why don't you do what creeper suggested and obtain the same amount of drop via other means? the spring rate of the sportlines is way too low for the amount of drop they give you, and you're gonna be hitting the bumpstops ALL the time, regardless of what shocks you go with.
if you do the lower spring perch in the front and heater hose mod in the rear with Koni shocks & Strano springs, then you can at the very least talk to Sam Strano regarding setup and whatever.
it doesn't matter if you already bought those springs, you can just turn around and sell them to someone else to recover that money (just not on here, because you'll be waiting years before you find someone else on here that doesn't know better than to buy those springs....lol).
03-25-2010, 09:03 AM
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fixing to change my suspension setup. I'm going with eibach sportlines, because they provide the stance that I want my '02 WS6 to sit at. I don't race it, nor any real aggressive driving, so I'm wanting some positive ideas as to a good shock to put with them. I know most don't like the sportlines, but for me, that's the direction I want to go. was thinking of they KYB AGX, but not real certain if anyone has another suggestion that would be better for what I'm trying to do. Thanks for any input...
And quite honestly, changing springs is really no big deal. It's an afternoon of work in the driveway. So if Sports turn out to be a PIA for you, change them.
Simple.
KYB is a popular shock. Probably a decent enough shock for your needs, especially the way you describe your driving style. My guess is this isn't your daily driver either. So, I'd say you have a pretty good handle on the route you want to take.
Someone mentioned your bump stops. You'll be on them all the time. Just remove them altogether and don't worry about it. If you dontt drive aggressively, as you claim, them you should be OK. You'll need that extra 1.5" of suspension travel.
Good luck!
03-25-2010, 12:48 PM
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Good to see someone who knows exactly what they want. You have obviously read all the reviews of sportlines and know basically what you are in for.
And quite honestly, changing springs is really no big deal. It's an afternoon of work in the driveway. So if Sports turn out to be a PIA for you, change them.
Simple.
KYB is a popular shock. Probably a decent enough shock for your needs, especially the way you describe your driving style. My guess is this isn't your daily driver either. So, I'd say you have a pretty good handle on the route you want to take.
Someone mentioned your bump stops. You'll be on them all the time. Just remove them altogether and don't worry about it. If you dontt drive aggressively, as you claim, them you should be OK. You'll need that extra 1.5" of suspension travel.
Good luck!
And quite honestly, changing springs is really no big deal. It's an afternoon of work in the driveway. So if Sports turn out to be a PIA for you, change them.
Simple.
KYB is a popular shock. Probably a decent enough shock for your needs, especially the way you describe your driving style. My guess is this isn't your daily driver either. So, I'd say you have a pretty good handle on the route you want to take.
Someone mentioned your bump stops. You'll be on them all the time. Just remove them altogether and don't worry about it. If you dontt drive aggressively, as you claim, them you should be OK. You'll need that extra 1.5" of suspension travel.
Good luck!
03-25-2010, 01:00 PM
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Is dropping the ride height (such as with the Sportlines in question) the only reason for needing an adjustable panhard rod? Or is it a good idea to get one anyway even if you're staying with the "4x4" look? I'm deciding between an adjustable panhard bar and an aftermarket non-adjustable one.
Is dropping the ride height (such as with the Sportlines in question) the only reason for needing an adjustable panhard rod? Or is it a good idea to get one anyway even if you're staying with the "4x4" look? I'm deciding between an adjustable panhard bar and an aftermarket non-adjustable one.
03-25-2010, 01:03 PM
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Is dropping the ride height (such as with the Sportlines in question) the only reason for needing an adjustable panhard rod? Or is it a good idea to get one anyway even if you're staying with the "4x4" look? I'm deciding between an adjustable panhard bar and an aftermarket non-adjustable one.
Is dropping the ride height (such as with the Sportlines in question) the only reason for needing an adjustable panhard rod? Or is it a good idea to get one anyway even if you're staying with the "4x4" look? I'm deciding between an adjustable panhard bar and an aftermarket non-adjustable one.
i believe from readings, the only reason for an adjustable panhard rod is to recenter the rear of the car after it has been lowered, because it throws it off center when lowered....