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Old 06-06-2011, 10:06 AM
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CTS-V calipers arent available at all? I thought a few months back GM produced a good amount of em.
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I will have to check availability when I get home tonight. The 6 piston calipers have been used with what looks like Z06 rotors. Everything that you posted was correct about the 2010 Camaro parts.
Here is a link to gm high tech article on the 6 piston conversion they did.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...els/index.html
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Hey Turbo, just giving you an update. Well all my parts came in so of course I have to do a mockup to make sure everything fits. Just to give a background, I'm using all of the same parts as the OP but I'm running 18 x 9.5 C5 Z06's with a 56mm offset.

As of yet, I haven't seen any pictures to confirm this but would like to inform everyone that if you're running this wheel with this offset, you'll need a spacer. After sliding a feeler gauge in the gap between my rim and the hub of the rotor, there was approximately an 1/8th of an inch gap. So I'll be ordering the appropriate spacers and maybe some arp wheel studs. Check out the pictures below, oh so close.






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Does anyone have updated GM part numbers for these calipers?
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Originally Posted by 5.7 Reasons
Hey Turbo, just giving you an update. Well all my parts came in so of course I have to do a mockup to make sure everything fits. Just to give a background, I'm using all of the same parts as the OP but I'm running 18 x 9.5 C5 Z06's with a 56mm offset.

As of yet, I haven't seen any pictures to confirm this but would like to inform everyone that if you're running this wheel with this offset, you'll need a spacer. After sliding a feeler gauge in the gap between my rim and the hub of the rotor, there was approximately an 1/8th of an inch gap. So I'll be ordering the appropriate spacers and maybe some arp wheel studs. Check out the pictures below, oh so close.





Very nice. I'm doing of BBK on mine also, doing a C6 but this looks promising. My c5Z06 front wheels have 53mm offset which is just a little over to clear those brakes for my wheels.

I'm subscribing though.
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Question to make sure I get everything needed....

(2) Rotors from a 2010+ Camaro SS ($158.95 from BrakeMotive)
(2) Calipers from same (might have to get bolt seperately)
Contact Kore3 for hoses....

There's no abutment brackets needed? Ear needs to be cut from spindle? Anything? Do I reuse my caliper bolts or get new?
I'm about to start sourcing parts and don't want to get half way through install just to find out I'm short parts and get the **** end of the stick.

Thanks guys.

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Make sure you measure your hubs guys. 70.5mm wont fit every hub...... I will be taking my rotors back to the machine shop to have them opened up a tad more.
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Make sure your hubs are rust free and clean. The easiest thing to do is have the machine shop measure your stock rotors themselves so there is less chance for error. Then its on them if they don't fit. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by TURBO6.0L
Make sure your hubs are rust free and clean. The easiest thing to do is have the machine shop measure your stock rotors themselves so there is less chance for error. Then its on them if they don't fit. Good luck.
Or take one of your hubs with you. I had to take my rotors back along with the hub to show them how the hub is tapered. 70.5mm on outside, 70.74mm at hum surface. He then needed to cut a tapered relief in the back side or the rotor in order to it flush with the hub surface. Keep this in mind...
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Now that the weather is starting to clear up here in Oregon I have been out and about. I still can't beleave how well the car stops now. One of the best mods I did.
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Nice writeup in two brakes
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TTT,

Its now looks like I will need to use the 2010 Camaro SS rotors and the CTS-V calipers set-up. Not CTS-V and Z06 set-up.
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Originally Posted by AndAnotherOne
Does anyone have updated GM part numbers for these calipers?
ACDelco right 172-2288

ACDelco left 172-2289

$228.00 shipped @ Amazon
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I think the part number for the left is 172-2287
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Originally Posted by Jefro6996
I think the part number for the left is 172-2287
You are correct kind sir...

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Originally Posted by TURBO6.0L
I just completed this front end brake conversion on a 2002 TA. I am posting all my pics and the details that went into my build to hopefully fill in some additional info that I did not see in other posts.

What you read and choose to do with your car is at your own risk not mine.

Front wheels on Car:
TSW Montage 18" x 9"
Measurements are as close as I can get them.
Back space measured to be 6 1/8"
Offset should be around 41.27mm

Parts used:
-CTS-V calipers from salvage yard. Mine were from a 2007.
-2010 Camaro SS rotors, slotted and dimpled. Got mine from brake performane.
-Hawk HPS pads part number HB453F.585
-KORE3 stainless steel brake lines.
-VHT high temp gloss black caliper paint part #sp734. Primer part #sp118, Clear part #sp730

Rotors:
Why use the 2010 Camaro SS rotors instead of the Z06 rotors?
-So that the pad contact area is correct for the caliper pad combination, unlike the Z06 rotors where there is a substantial difference and over time will create a chamfer on the pads inner edge . Ultimately you are loosing braking performance since less pad is actually contacting the rotor surface.
-Spacer or washers for caliper are not needed. The caliper is perfectly centered over the rotor. This will also help with not needing a wheel spacer in some cases since the caliper is farther away from the wheel spokes. Still no guarantee as there are so many wheel back space options.
Disadvantages:
-You will have to have the center of the rotor that goes over the hub machined out to fit correctly. I took a stock rotor along with 2010 rotors to the machine shop and had them match the bore. I was only charged $20 for the pair.
-Lug pattern does not match perfectly but fit without any issues on stock setup. Still quite a bit of clearance but you may have problems if you went to a thicker over sized lug. Rotor hub thickness was the same as the stock rotors so no need to change lug length unless needed for spacer.

Calipers:
Used calipers offer a good value especially since you usually get the pin kit with them. All the salvage yards I contacted included the old pads and pins still installed since it would be extra time for them to separate. The stock brake lines that came with the calipers will not work so don't worry about them. I went used to save some cash and I also planned to paint them anyways.
New calipers are more money and don't forget the extra cost for 2 sets of hardware\pin kits. Those were around $35 a set.

Rotors:
I went with brake performance rotors. They were able to get them to me in a week. Most other places were out of blanks and it was going to be several weeks on back order. They are supposed to be a US made blank and seems to be a high quality part.

Brake Lines:
I went withe KORE3 since they are local for me. Awesome folks to work with and parts are top notch.

VHT Caliper Paint:
This is the only caliper paint that I found with a rating to 900 deg. Offered in many colors and most parts stores carry it. After baking in the oven the finish was pretty tough.

Onto the pics:



Stock Rotor compared to 2010 Camaro SS Rotor. Wow!!


Stock hub size somewhere around 70.6 mm


2010 Camaro SS Rotor after machine work around 70.5 mm From factory it was around 67.8 mm


Fits hub without any issues


Calipers:



What a difference. Brembo to the rescue.


I chose to sand blast the cosmetic portions of the caliper. I plugged all holes and taped the pistons to keep the sand from getting where It did not belong. Also any spots that had the black protective coating on it such as the bolt mount points and the pad guides i covered during blasting and paint to preserve the factory coating.



Rear of caliper sand blasted.


After Paint. I sprayed a little metal flake on the caliper while the paint was still wet and then cleared it. The flake is the same color as the car.


You can see the flake a little. The camera lighting made it look chunky and bad.


Another pic. All depends how the light of the camera catches it but its there.

Hub Modification for rotor mount bolt:
Because of the wheels I have on my car they do not hide the extra hole that holds the rotor onto the hub. I chose to drill and tap my own mounting hole so it looks like it is supposed to be there. I always clean the face of the hub with a wire brush whenever putting on new rotors so now is a good time.



Marking center of hole with drill bit that fit tightly into the rotor which should provide pretty good centering. I did not drill all the way through at this point just enough to leave a good mark. My lug nuts were deep enough so that I could center the rotor on the lug studs before locking them down prior to drilling the centering hole.


I removed the hub from the car and used my partially started center to drill out the hole the rest of the way on the drill press.


Hub set up in tiny drill press ready to go. I used a 17/64 bit to create the pilot hole for tap. I used a 8mm x 1.25 pitch tap.


Hole tapped out and ready to go.


Tapered bolt fits good. It is a 8mm x 1.25p x 15mm.


Make sure when bolting the hub back up you pay attention to the orientation of the abs sensor connector. Arrow faces the front.


I loosely chucked the bolt in the drill press and polished the head of it until it was even with the surface on the rotor. You may have to widen the hole slightly on the rotor to help get things to line up better in case your centering was not perfect. Don't be afraid to grind down the head of the bolt then polish it back out. You can also use a hand drill to do this.


Getting closer:


Pad comparison to stock.


Calipers loaded with pads. I used high temp caliper and slide grease between the stock shim and the back of the hawk pad. I used a thin punch to push out and install the pins. Be Careful on your fancy new paint job.


Caliper installed. I did re-use the stock bolts. The length and thread was perfect.

Brake Lines:


Use a flat tipped screw driver and pry against the brake line lifting the screw driver up. You can use a second screw driver to pry against coming from the opposite side. As long as they are not too rusty they should come right off.


The brake line install went ok. I used the factory banjo bolts with new cooper washers that KORE3 included. I also had to use the new retaining clips that KORE3 sent because the factory ones were not wide enough. On the passenger side I had to remove the brake line mount to get things lined up and then bolted it back on as a whole piece. Driver side was fine. I put a little twist in the brake line and then tightened everything up once I was satisfied that the line would not hit anywhere. I did end up moving the brake line on the caliper side closer to caliper to gain more clearance from the shock mount when the tire was turned all the way in.


Final brake line routing. Moved line closer to caliper.
Nice write-up! But please explain how the Camaro 14" rotor contact patch is any different than the Z06 14" rotor? The only two things that I can find different are the hights & hub size. The Z06 rotor is .248 (1/4) shorter (that's why they use two washers) putting it closer to the wheel spokes and the the hub bore of the Camaro is 0.130 smaller than the Z06.
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Finally got mine all put together
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Looks great. Anyone still on the fence...do it!! The clamping power is unreal. All the money we spend on making the car go faster and corner faster this is a relatively cheap mod and makes the car a great all around performer.
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Originally Posted by blackpala96


Finally got mine all put together
18" wheels?


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