Manual steering?
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I love my manual rack. It has a higher gear ratio than the stock power steering, so it's easier to turn than a disconnected power rack. 99% of the time I don't even notice I don't have power steering. If you're moving over 5mph that momentum of the car reduce the effort required to turn the wheel. But believe me, if you better have your big boy shorts on when you go to park.
To answer your question, I've kicked the ***-end out a few times and I am still able to keep the car under control...it just takes some getting used to.
To answer your question, I've kicked the ***-end out a few times and I am still able to keep the car under control...it just takes some getting used to.
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We generally don't recommend the manual steering setups for guys that DD or drive there cars on the street a lot. Even though we don't recommend it we still have a considerable amount of customer who do DD and drive their cars quite a bit with our manual steering setups. Generally the only time it really sucks is low speed and parking situations. Also the bigger tire you hvae on the front of the car the more effort it is going to take so if you are running skinnies on the front it will be much easier than running stock-sized tires.
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a manual rack is a pretty good start to some weight savings, and is not that bad to drive. As stated before I wouldn't do it on a DD car, but if your car is street/strip and mainly a weekend fun car then it will be just fine.
We offer a full bolt-in(no brackets to weld) manual rack conversion with a real Flaming River Pinto rack for 550.00 and includes all the necessary components and a high quality sealed needle bearing joint steering shaft.
We offer a full bolt-in(no brackets to weld) manual rack conversion with a real Flaming River Pinto rack for 550.00 and includes all the necessary components and a high quality sealed needle bearing joint steering shaft.
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That is a hard one to answer considering one might be able to correct themselves in that situation better over others.
Now I have had manual racks on many cars that I DD and it didn't bother me much but what doesn't bother some might bother others.
Like SSvert mentioned it is great weight savings for a street strip application vehicle.
Now I have had manual racks on many cars that I DD and it didn't bother me much but what doesn't bother some might bother others.
Like SSvert mentioned it is great weight savings for a street strip application vehicle.
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I drove my car for about 6 months without power steering (stock rack mind you)
It definitely was an arm strengthening experience. I loved it once the vehicle was moving however, much more "connected" feeling. When it comes to slip-correction I found it to be the same or easier than when it had power steering. If you time it right it is totally weightless in your hands to maintain a perfect wheel angle during a slide. Over-correcting can get you into a trouble in a hurry though as it becomes harder than normal to fix that over-correction due to weight transfer and the angle of the tire.
It definitely was an arm strengthening experience. I loved it once the vehicle was moving however, much more "connected" feeling. When it comes to slip-correction I found it to be the same or easier than when it had power steering. If you time it right it is totally weightless in your hands to maintain a perfect wheel angle during a slide. Over-correcting can get you into a trouble in a hurry though as it becomes harder than normal to fix that over-correction due to weight transfer and the angle of the tire.
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pre-install. . .
mid-install. . .
installed. . .
This one needed a tab welded to my k-member... literally 5 minutes of prep and weld time. Cost me a case of Diet Pepsi. . .
mid-install. . .
installed. . .
This one needed a tab welded to my k-member... literally 5 minutes of prep and weld time. Cost me a case of Diet Pepsi. . .
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So just to clarify the Midwest man. rack comes as a true bolt on with everything needed for install including steering shaft? Trying to decide between this one and the Burkhart Chassis man. rack. Not much difference but about 50 dollars in price but thats shipping
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Yes... that is correct. We have two different designs depending on how much header clearance you have at the steering shatf interference point. The mount is made of
lightweight chromemoly tube, and powdercoated for a nice finish. It is a true bolt-in component that doesn't have pieces welded to the rack or require welding a mount to the k-member.
lightweight chromemoly tube, and powdercoated for a nice finish. It is a true bolt-in component that doesn't have pieces welded to the rack or require welding a mount to the k-member.
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I put one in cause my power rack was leaking bad.
I have a couple front suspension issues to pan out. I think I have a bad ball joint and I need a better alignment and new tires. The first alignment sucked and then I lowered the front an inch recently. + need to dial in bumpsteer
Even with my suspension issues its not that bad though. Plus I usually always park in the back of parking lots anyways Id rather have a perfectly working powersteering system, but the jury is still out. Never needing power steering fluid and less stuff in your engine bay is a huge plus though!
I'm still not used to countersteering with it though. I used to be sick with the powersteering in. Its just going to take time to readjust.
I have a couple front suspension issues to pan out. I think I have a bad ball joint and I need a better alignment and new tires. The first alignment sucked and then I lowered the front an inch recently. + need to dial in bumpsteer
Even with my suspension issues its not that bad though. Plus I usually always park in the back of parking lots anyways Id rather have a perfectly working powersteering system, but the jury is still out. Never needing power steering fluid and less stuff in your engine bay is a huge plus though!
I'm still not used to countersteering with it though. I used to be sick with the powersteering in. Its just going to take time to readjust.
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Manual rack kit (RK002)
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Our bolt in manual rack conversion which uses a Flaming River rack is $550 plus shipping. I couldn't find any pictures of it at this time but will get some taken, it is also key to check what kind of rack you get with other kits on the market.